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Themagicalgoat posted:What makes you think those people are progressive? They don't sound progressive at all. They sound like those shrill white people from DC complaining about violence who don't give a poo poo about black people. Thank u for splaining my story about splaining. It is always nice to have visual aids to show the class.
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So, I'm massively ignorant of legal proceedings and suits: What, exactly, is Discovery and why would it be especially bad for Trump? Is it a requirement to submit evidence, affadavits, etc that could probably be embarrassing to him or what?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:As I've talked about some before, central California is a political battleground right now, with conservative voters holding disproportionate sway over our water use and thus the environment. I've been working to support democratic candidates in those regions. I am not welcome there. My life is frequently threatened, obliquely and overtly. But instead of being able to turn to my fellow progressives, the people working on the same goals as me, part of the same teams, if I so much as betray a moment's hesitation before walking into a confederate-flag-bedecked bar to canvas the locals, all the lovely white boys chime in with WELL BUT DO YOU HAVE CITATIONS. PROVE TO ME. NOTHING YOU THINK OR FEEL IS VALID UNTIL A WHITE ACADEMIC HAS MADE IT OFFICIAL. I have a video of that exact thing happening to me during a talk about the racial divide in tech where a white guy was like "SHOW ME THE NUMBERS" ...and the next slide had the numbers. This was in Cleveland OH. More than willing to post it if others want to see it.
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Like here is a good and great idea: Police have to wear cat ears and their pants have a cat tail on them. Then they look ridiculous and arrogant masculine assholes wont want to do the job as much and will quit but good-hearted people who want to seem as non-threatening as the job requires will stay on.
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so it sounds like trump is going to sue the new york times for libel. please donny, sue the newspaper that is named in the definitive caselaw for libel and slander. that's going to work out so well.
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Oct 13, 2016 03:19
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https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/786389089834639360 So I'm a little confused. Why is Trump targeting the NYT specifically?
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Lamb Chowder posted:
To be fair violating Poe's law should be illegal.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Can you think of any reasons why a POC might not think reporting racism to the authorities will solve anything? I know this question is rhetorical, and I don't want to cause too much of a derail, but does anyone in this thread know if there have been any studies done on the number of times a POC has called the police and gotten helped vs. The number of times a POC has called the police and gotten shot/wrongfully arrested? That seems like something that someone should look into, because from what I can tell the later happens way more than it should.
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Kro-Bar posted:https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/786389089834639360 So is this going to happen before or after the election?
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Lamb Chowder posted:
Download a real IRC client, rear end. gfsincere posted:If they close r/the_donald Nov. 9th, I'll have to see a doctor because no penis should ever be that erect. I feel so petty but when I look at the_donald, I've started to bookmark the users who are especially awful and smug so that even if the_donald goes dark I can bask in the sweet salty taste of whever else they vent.
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gfsincere posted:If they close r/the_donald Nov. 9th, I'll have to see a doctor because no penis should ever be that erect. I want them to have a day or two to meltdown, and then see it closed down (so they can meltdown some more).
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Tom Guycot posted:Speaking of the_donald and O'Keefe, can anyone tell my why the hell so many of the people posting there are like from all these other counties? Why are people from sweeden, poland, etc all loving following the loving trump reddit? Because r/thedonald is less about Donald Trump For President and more about a refugee camp for various hate groups and white nationalists on reddit who had their more on-topic subreddits shut down. You're seeing people from r/fatpeoplehate, the chimpire, and other shitholes congregate there because it's a place where they can openly coordinate without fear of reprisal.
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Kro-Bar posted:https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/786389089834639360 The NYT just published a story with interviews of two women who say that Trump groped them.
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lol Curt Schilling is on 4Chan. https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/786391059488083969
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A Winner is Jew posted:If Trump is going full Downfall who do you think will go full Goebbels with him?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Thank u for splaining my story about splaining. It is always nice to have visual aids to show the class. It was a sincere question. Sorry for unintentionally whitesplaining (I'm not white, not that it matters. I think non-white people can probably do it) or minimizing your experience. I really don't have any context for this.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You sure know what race me and gfsincere are, and probably dexo, and mysteriously our opinions were all wrong until a raceless voice repeated them. 
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gfsincere posted:I have a video of that exact thing happening to me during a talk about the racial divide in tech where a white guy was like "SHOW ME THE NUMBERS" I am really, really, really not surprised at all. This poo poo happens all the time.  Even among kids. My sister actually told a story about seeing someone bullied in her school. The girl tried to tell a teacher and got ignored and then the second a white girl backed her up the teacher suddenly changed and took it super-seriously.
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It is funny because he has a solid libel case against the women who are accusing him (assuming he has some proof that they are lying and know they are lying) but absolutely no case against the paper.
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Oct 13, 2016 03:22
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From a while back but what's with people who think abstaining from voting absolves you of responsibility for the outcome of the election? Like, you have the capacity to use it, not using it doesn't make you not culpable, it just means you stood and watched instead of running to help/stab the person lying in the road.
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Kro-Bar posted:https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/786389089834639360 I wonder if he really thinks this is going to intimidate the media. They will more gleefully tear him to shreds.
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ImpAtom posted:Some people are excited at seeing a straight up brolic posted:right wing is in Tiny Brontosaurus posted:In some ways Donnie is the first american politician to follow the european right-wing model. Less religion, more fascism. Jesus, they actually are from so many different places? I was kinda leaning towards it being some kind of racist "this is where my ancestors came from!"(since all the ones I saw were from white countries). Somehow its even worse that people outside america are jumping behind his poo poo.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I know this question is rhetorical, and I don't want to cause too much of a derail, but does anyone in this thread know if there have been any studies done on the number of times a POC has called the police and gotten helped vs. The number of times a POC has called the police and gotten shot/wrongfully arrested? That seems like something that someone should look into, because from what I can tell the later happens way more than it should. I don't have any number off hand, but I'm pretty sure they're most likely to just be flat out ignored. Which is a major problem.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You sure know what race me and gfsincere are, and probably dexo, and mysteriously our opinions were all wrong until a raceless voice repeated them. I mean would you rather he be like Zoux and think you're just lying about your race?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:In some ways Donnie is the first american politician to follow the european right-wing model. Less religion, more fascism. Trump is beloved by so many in the european rightwing, neo nazi and fascist communities. It's one of the most sickening things for those of us here who are observing those groups because for so long they haven't had one distinct figurehead to rally around. Trump's given them that.
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Stereotype posted:Of all the things that people believe, "American interference in Libya's civil war was bad" is the most frustrating. We didn't DO MUCH. We basically just blew up American made supplies from afar that Gaddafi got from us in the 70s and 80s when boomers decided they loved money more than anything in the world. And I would again point out that people doing that are being, well, racist, because it's as if the fighting done by the actual Libyans didn't matter.
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Tom Guycot posted:Jesus, they actually are from so many different places? I was kinda leaning towards it being some kind of racist "this is where my ancestors came from!"(since all the ones I saw were from white countries). Somehow its even worse that people outside america are jumping behind his poo poo. Right-wing stuff isn't just American. It's a problem across the globe, as lovely as it is. America has a lot of problems but we're not QUITE as bad as we could be due to a general wide diversity.
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gfsincere posted:I have a video of that exact thing happening to me during a talk about the racial divide in tech where a white guy was like "SHOW ME THE NUMBERS" PLEASE do
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OwlFancier posted:From a while back but what's with people who think abstaining from voting absolves you of responsibility for the outcome of the election? but you see both parties are equally bad and-
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Tom Guycot posted:Speaking of the_donald and O'Keefe, can anyone tell my why the hell so many of the people posting there are like from all these other counties? Why are people from sweeden, poland, etc all loving following the loving trump reddit? Because Sweden, Poland, Finland, Greece, etc are all already deep into their own right-wing populist movements and misery loves company.
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theflyingorc posted:...you think, in the current environment, that this wouldn't be making the news just wanna point out: i'm white, this dude trash (still pages behind hard to keep up).
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I know this question is rhetorical, and I don't want to cause too much of a derail, but does anyone in this thread know if there have been any studies done on the number of times a POC has called the police and gotten helped vs. The number of times a POC has called the police and gotten shot/wrongfully arrested? That seems like something that someone should look into, because from what I can tell the later happens way more than it should. Doesn't America actually not track that sort of thing nationwide? It's all done on state-level so if you want to find that out you need to go through every police department's records?
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:I know this question is rhetorical, and I don't want to cause too much of a derail, but does anyone in this thread know if there have been any studies done on the number of times a POC has called the police and gotten helped vs. The number of times a POC has called the police and gotten shot/wrongfully arrested? That seems like something that someone should look into, because from what I can tell the later happens way more than it should. Hard to do so because police departments don't want to report statistics to the DOJ. But I can tell you right after the police kill an unarmed black person, there's an instant chilling effect on 911 calls. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/upshot/calls-to-911-from-black-neighborhoods-fell-after-a-case-of-police-violence.html
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Kro-Bar posted:https://twitter.com/gabrielsherman/status/786389089834639360 Maureen Dowd's next column: "can we really afford the reopening of Motel 1600?!"
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Lewandowski just dropped my favorite false equivalency of the election "Donald Trump walked backstage on naked pageant queens because that is a part of his job, just like people keep saying it was Hillary's job to defend a rapist of a 12 year old girl"
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2spooky4me posted:might want to make a privacy pass over this buddy. Any maybe clear out some of your 22 notices, god dammed.
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I have some statistics on the perception gaps of racial problems that seem to be occurring in real time in this thread http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/06/27/on-views-of-race-and-inequality-blacks-and-whites-are-worlds-apart/ Pew Research posted:The survey finds that black and white adults have widely different perceptions about what life is like for blacks in the U.S. For example, by large margins, blacks are more likely than whites to say black people are treated less fairly in the workplace (a difference of 42 percentage points), when applying for a loan or mortgage (41 points), in dealing with the police (34 points), in the courts (32 points), in stores or restaurants (28 points), and when voting in elections (23 points). By a margin of at least 20 percentage points, blacks are also more likely than whites to say racial discrimination (70% vs. 36%), lower quality schools (75% vs. 53%) and lack of jobs (66% vs. 45%) are major reasons that blacks may have a harder time getting ahead than whites.
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Themagicalgoat posted:What makes you think those people are progressive? They don't sound progressive at all. They sound like those shrill white people from DC complaining about violence who don't give a poo poo about black people. There's tons of racist white leftists. They're usually less overt but they get their feelings hurt when anyone talks about how much they hate white people, or they're eager to jump in and argue that the only true warfare is class warfare and that race issues will vanish entirely once we accomplish Total Communism Now. Minimizing the fear PoC feel in hostile white territory is just par for the course.
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gfsincere posted:Hard to do so because police departments don't want to report statistics to the DOJ. So... Police shooting black people actually lowers crime rates... That's kind of nauseating.
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Night10194 posted:So, I'm massively ignorant of legal proceedings and suits: What, exactly, is Discovery and why would it be especially bad for Trump? Is it a requirement to submit evidence, affadavits, etc that could probably be embarrassing to him or what? Basically, yes. If the other side can demonstrate that certain info about Donald and his businesses is relevant to the case, his attorneys have to turn it over. And unless the case is sealed by court order (which would also need to be justified), then it's public record and anyone can get that information. There's more to it, like the potential consequences of withholding that info. A smart legal team would offer just enough in discovery to avoid consequences, but another complication is Donald needs to be smart enough to withhold that information, too. Once his legal team knows something relevant, they can be compelled to turn it over.
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