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TARDISman posted:I like that they handicapped Daisy a bit, it gets boring if the main character gets too powerful. What a loving drop from causing an avalanche thousands of feet away and bringing a SHIELD base crumbling around her to 'Can't hold off a steel shelf consistently' though.
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Jamesman posted:Fitz and Simmons started off as these kids who needed to be protected at the expense of the other team members. Now look at them. Fitz can wreck people and Simmons has the cunning of a spy and doesn't let anyone give her any poo poo. She's come a long way since she awkwardly stunned Sitwell. That Hydra Bastard.
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RareAcumen posted:What a loving drop from causing an avalanche thousands of feet away and bringing a SHIELD base crumbling around her to 'Can't hold off a steel shelf consistently' though. I think it comes from going "Hey these are some cool powers. Now let me do other stuff for a while," to "Must use my powers all the time. And screw those gauntlets that help keep my arms from breaking, they can probably track them."
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Taking a good look at Daisy's arm in that episode gives a good idea of why her powers fluctuate. When a person is in constant extreme pain, it's just willpower that gets them through. If Daisy becomes too demoralized, she'll collapse. If she sees a guy's head turn into a flaming skull start hurling things at her, she becomes so shocked she can barely focus. If she tried to do too much without her techno-bone drugs, her arms snap off. It makes it easy for the writers to modulate her powers as the situation calls for it.
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SLEEPER HOLD KNOCKOUT PUNCH FIRE EXTINGUISHER  Fitz should just start carrying around a fire extinguisher like Mack's shotgun-axe.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, I am totally fine with accepting this was some kind of dampener rather than any kind of EMP pulse in a traditional sense. Plus AoS does follow comic rules. I think Daisy talked about it a few times, the watch dogs she was tracking robbed a fancy lab. (The same one ghost people came from? Not sure.)
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Good episode. A bit "filler" and Gemma trying to bring May back was a bit out of place (that's a powerful moment but juxtaposed against the wacky action sequences of Yoyo and the 3 amigos and shot with that strange wide lens, it lost impact), but otherwise, I had a lot of fun.bio347 posted:She has so much fun with her powers. It's great to watch. I like how when she was disarming the EMP room, she was smiling the whole way. ps: Boy Scout Fitz for Director.
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There has been a late addition to Brett Dalton's Phoenix Fan Fest appearance.
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I don't remember, did she shoot Ward? Now's her chance. E: erm, paintball or something. I don't want Dalton shot.
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Bruceski posted:I don't remember, did she shoot Ward? Now's her chance. Yeah, she unloaded a clip into Hive. It was awesome.
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And then she just talked to the dog.
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Mage_Boy posted:I think it comes from going "Hey these are some cool powers. Now let me do other stuff for a while," to "Must use my powers all the time. And screw those gauntlets that help keep my arms from breaking, they can probably track them." Oh yeah, I'm not saying it's bullshit or anything. I'm just saying 'wow, what a power drop.' I hope this is the season that starts bringing those other plot threads back up. Like the Gravitonium and the frozen boy who fell into the sea.
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twistedmentat posted:Did they ever say where the advanced weapons the Watchdogs had came from? Based on Luke Cage, I'd bet it will be shown to be Hammer. I need more Sam Rockwell cameos in MCU stuff.
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sticklefifer posted:I need more Sam Rockwell cameos in MCU stuff. He just needs to be dancing in the background or something.
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So, from the point of view of an Inhuman, let's take a look at life under the Accords: 1) Get hunted down by armed SHIELD agents for merely existing 2) Given the option of being a good little Inhuman and doing everything you're told forever or get sent to some hole for the rest of your life 3) Have to wear a 4) Have your location constantly monitored 5) Have all that information available to any country which signed the Accords and which may or may not want to make you a slave or vivisect you or kill you or just sell the information to the highest bidder. So, why would anyone with powers agree to this?
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Also aren't they still on the low curve of the inhuman population according to Phil's estimate last year? What happens when the Terrigen is 100% soaked into the environment?
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Mutants. Genosha. Its happening.
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Error 404 posted:Mutants. Genosha. Its happening. Wasn't that the plan the Russians had last season?
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frgildan posted:Wasn't that the plan the Russians had last season? Yeah but not as a sanctuary, it was so they could have their own army of powered people on hand. No one has a weapons best interests at heart.
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Error 404 posted:Mutants. Genosha. Its happening. Didn't they go to Kenosha in season one or two?
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homullus posted:Didn't they go to Kenosha in season one or two? Fitzsimmons spent some time in the ocean, that's for sure
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I just mean that the inhumans stuff as we've seen so far is coming across as off-brand X-Men. But I'm 10000% ok with this.
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hiddenriverninja posted:Fitzsimmons spent some time in the ocean, that's for sure HQ is compliant with all workplace regulations. OSHA \/\/\/ We're doing a rhyming/sort of sounding like thing. CAPT. Rainbowbeard fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:HQ is compliant with all workplace regulations.  : The Director sure loves his acronyms...
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Gorilla Salad posted:So, why would anyone with powers agree to this? Sort of like a sad case of "I told ya"
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I think the worst copyright problem Agents of Shield has, and a problem with not wanting to mess up the movie universe, is that on the Netflix series they always go "YOU'RE ONE OF THEM!!!" and they obviously mean loving Inhumans, but they can't say it, and they always blow it off since none of the Netflix heroes are actually Inhumans. It's kind of annoying really that they can't even share some things between each other. Maybe if the rumors are true and Agents starts getting taken more seriously with a crossover with Netflix stuff they can finally stop this ridiculousness.
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Blazing Ownager posted:I think the worst copyright problem Agents of Shield has, and a problem with not wanting to mess up the movie universe, is that on the Netflix series they always go "YOU'RE ONE OF THEM!!!" and they obviously mean loving Inhumans, but they can't say it, and they always blow it off since none of the Netflix heroes are actually Inhumans. I have never thought they are referencing Inhumans in the Netflix series. In fact, the lack of references to Winter Soldier, Avengers 2/Sokovia, Ant-Man, and Civil War likely means the Netflix-verse still takes place in the aftermath of Avengers 1. "The Incident" (IE Avengers 1) is still being referenced as a recent thing. Maybe they'll have a time jump at some point that puts them along the same timeline as AOS/the films are, but right now, I think the Netflix shows are staying in that area after Avengers 1 but before Cap 2.
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Error 404 posted:I just mean that the inhumans stuff as we've seen so far is coming across as off-brand X-Men. But I'm 10000% ok with this. Pretty sure that's what Marvel was planning to do with them entirely at one point, and still might. Mostly because of Fox. notthegoatseguy posted:I have never thought they are referencing Inhumans in the Netflix series. In fact, the lack of references to Winter Soldier, Avengers 2/Sokovia, Ant-Man, and Civil War likely means the Netflix-verse still takes place in the aftermath of Avengers 1. "The Incident" (IE Avengers 1) is still being referenced as a recent thing. I always assumed that'd be part of it. Though some things I am thinking about now suggest you might be right; nobody ever mentions SHIELD. I thought someone mentioned how they fell apart and were all Hydra in one of the shows? But I could be remembering it wrong. (I want to say Jessica Jones?) If this theory is right it does explain some things involving HAMMER / Ant-man. It'd also give us a neat flash-forward to anyone they cross over with if that was true.
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Yeah, one of them just means super powered person like the Avengers, not inhuman
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Blazing Ownager posted:I think the worst copyright problem Agents of Shield has, and a problem with not wanting to mess up the movie universe, is that on the Netflix series they always go "YOU'RE ONE OF THEM!!!" and they obviously mean loving Inhumans, but they can't say it, and they always blow it off since none of the Netflix heroes are actually Inhumans. There's no copyright issue preventing anything in the netflix series, which if you haven't noticed still have ABC studios in the credits (and ABC is owned by Disney anyways, so it's not like they're going to object to the Netflix shows using elements from AoS anyways). It's all just down to the Netflix shows being produced largely independent from the broadcast ABC stuff and there likely not being much communication between the two writing/production staffs, though there have been recent hints that some crossover between the two networks' shows may occur soonish.
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I think having three storylines all progressing in the same universe, but having one of them moving at a slower rate is an incredibly stupid and confusing idea. Especially without actually saying so. Which is not to say it's not what's happening. I also think 'one of them' just means someone with super powers, but they didn't want to say 'powered person' because that sounds dumb. Also they didn't want to say inhumans because no one gives a poo poo about inhumans except a few comic book readers, and the last thing Marvel wants to do is remind their viewers about that movie that quietly got canceled because, again, no one gives a poo poo about inhumans. Also I hope the
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Blazing Ownager posted:Pretty sure that's what Marvel was planning to do with them entirely at one point, and still might. Mostly because of Fox. Right. And tbh the 'mutant' thing fits inhumans even better that way. Its still about people born different. After the first avengers movie, people who are part alien fits the 'humanity hates and fears us' bit even better. The fact that terrigen is everywhere now means that inhuman kids are just gonna start popping up (like mutants do)
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I feel like this is a result of Caps revolt against the accords. If he had accepted them, he and Tony and the rest could come at them from a unified position of strength and demand the more troublesome aspects be removed. But since Cap gave them the big middle finger of liberty, they went into effect without any changes.
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frgildan posted:Wasn't that the plan the Russians had last season? I kind of hope they get back to that plot at some point. Honestly seems like a pretty big deal.
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Okay, so I apparently missed some stuff. Who was that lady at the end of the episode? Was that just the senator that had on screen within the show 18 seconds earlier?
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RareAcumen posted:Okay, so I apparently missed some stuff. Yep
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flosofl posted:Yep Oh. Well, was she also the lady who ratted out Yo-yo? And was that guy in a chrysalis at the end hinted at anywhere earlier or is that a mystery for a later episode?
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RareAcumen posted:Oh. Well, was she also the lady who ratted out Yo-yo? And was that guy in a chrysalis at the end hinted at anywhere earlier or is that a mystery for a later episode? No. The bride to be was someone else. If we do see her again, it will be for Yo Yo to rescue, and she can tearfully see the error of her ways asking Yo-Yo for forgiveness. That's the first time that chrysalis was seen. I believe she mentioned she was at her brother's place, so I'm assuming that's him.
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