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Deteriorata posted:It is surprising how different the cars are despite coming off the same assembly line and sharing most of the same parts. They will have rather different appeals and neither is clearly "better" than the other by any objective criteria. They're just alternate takes on the concept. The Fiat connected with me in a way the Mazda never did. I was considering a miata last year, but something about the Abarth really resonates with me. I like the look and daydreaming about this car makes my heart go all pitty pat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ2csVvmwuY
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This kind of slipped under my radar, but Hyundai is going to sell a sport model of their new Elantra with a 200hp 1.6l turbo 4 and a choice of 6MT or 7 speed DCT. Winding Road posted videos of them scooting around some streets in a DCT version, and a manual version on a short autocross course. Hyundai also replaced the torsion beam rear end with a multi-link setup. The interior isn't a swoopy mess anymore either.  I am strangely intrigued by this car.
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None of the Fiata Miata fight matters because the Fiata is ugly. Actually the ND Miata is ugly too but slightly less so. It's Trump v Clinton all over again blk fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Oct 16, 2016 |
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Mental Hospitality posted:This kind of slipped under my radar, but Hyundai is going to sell a sport model of their new Elantra with a 200hp 1.6l turbo 4 and a choice of 6MT or 7 speed DCT. Winding Road posted videos of them scooting around some streets in a DCT version, and a manual version on a short autocross course. Hyundai also replaced the torsion beam rear end with a multi-link setup. I've never driven a Hyundai that didn't have an awful shifter.
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Oct 16, 2016 05:52
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blk posted:None of the Fiata Miata fight matters because the Fiata is ugly. No, Clinton v Trump is like a slightly disappointing Miata versus a gold-vinyl-wrapped 600,000-mile Aztek running on three cylinders previously owned by a dog-owning family with hereditary motion sickness and also it rapes you when you get in.
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Sagebrush posted:No, Clinton v Trump is like a slightly disappointing Miata versus a gold-vinyl-wrapped 600,000-mile Aztek running on three cylinders previously owned by a dog-owning family with hereditary motion sickness and also it rapes you when you get in. Hillary isn't THAT sick.
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Wrar posted:I've never driven a Hyundai that didn't have an awful shifter. I test drove a Veloster a few years ago with the 6-speed and didn't mind it. I remember liking the throw better than my Mazda6 at the time.
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Oct 16, 2016 13:01
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blk posted:None of the Fiata Miata fight matters because the Fiata is ugly. Miata fanboys shouldn't get too smug. Without the Fiat investment the ND probably wouldn't have happened.
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Oct 16, 2016 17:13
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dissss posted:This should surprise absolutely no one but as it turns out very small capacity turbos aren't all they're cracked up to be: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-autoshow-paris-engines-exclusive-idUSKBN12E11K This is one of the best things I've heard in ages.
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Oct 16, 2016 17:14
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Deteriorata posted:Miata fanboys shouldn't get too smug. Without the Fiat investment the ND probably wouldn't have happened. Have you posted a picture of your new thingy yet, or what?
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Oct 16, 2016 17:23
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BloodBag posted:Have you posted a picture of your boxspring on bedframe looking car yet, or are you just gonna spew bullshit all day? Yes, I did, over in the Post Your Ride thread. I'll repost it here just for you! 
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The chrome windshield surround is just so off putting. I wonder if someone will make body colored vinyl to wrap it.
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Mental Hospitality posted:This kind of slipped under my radar, but Hyundai is going to sell a sport model of their new Elantra with a 200hp 1.6l turbo 4 and a choice of 6MT or 7 speed DCT. Winding Road posted videos of them scooting around some streets in a DCT version, and a manual version on a short autocross course. Hyundai also replaced the torsion beam rear end with a multi-link setup. You've been able to get a Kia Forte with the 1.6l and the 6 speed for years. It's just not very good. http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/forte-koup/2014/2014-kia-forte-koup-sx-t-gdi-first-test/
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:The chrome windshield surround is just so off putting. I wonder if someone will make body colored vinyl to wrap it.  I don't like this car at all. Sorry dude. Bench race with the ND all day long, it's still not as pretty to me. Opinions are like assholes, etc. etc.
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dissss posted:Leaving emissions aside in my own experience the little TSI Golfs and turbo Cruze and similar can't get even close to their test economy figures in real world usage yea shocking
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:The chrome windshield surround is just so off putting. I wonder if someone will make body colored vinyl to wrap it. I drove one of these at the auto show last week, but it was an automatic. Still, it was very nice and I hope they sell a lot of them (they won't, my local dealer is already offering $1700 off sticker).
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TheGoatTrick posted:All the other trim levels have it in black, which is fine. Classica = body-colored surround Lusso = silver Abarth = black Manuals are as rare as hens' teeth and are being sold at a premium. They can't give the automatics away.
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Deteriorata posted:Manuals are as rare as hens' teeth and are being sold at a premium. They can't give the automatics away.
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Wrar posted:I've never driven a Hyundai that didn't have an awful shifter. The B&M short throw is really nice. Shifts way better than my 2007 350z. The tuned 1.6L will get to 250-260whp pretty easy.
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Throatwarbler posted:You've been able to get a Kia Forte with the 1.6l and the 6 speed for years. It's just not very good. Horsepower is limited by ecu for 1000 mile break in and early models had 173whp and new r-spec velosters are getting 190whp. So I'd imagine a 2014 review is not the best case scenario.
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Deteriorata posted:Miata fanboys shouldn't get too smug. Without the Fiat investment the ND probably wouldn't have happened. ?
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Payne: How Fiat saved Mazda’s Miata quote:Thanks goodness for the Fiata.
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Well anyway back to cars people like, Mercedes truck is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTnGHGvwJfE
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That Batman music is the lamest, cringiest, fart-smellingest poo poo ever.
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Sagebrush posted:That Batman music is the lamest, cringiest, fart-smellingest poo poo ever. but enough about luxury SUV/truck drivers
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Proud Christian Mom posted:but enough about luxury SUV/truck drivers Say what you want...they're loving comfortable.
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New Camaro ZL1 running around the ring in 7:29 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrFnrcpBj5k
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Oct 24, 2016 18:09
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blk posted:None of the Fiata Miata fight matters because the Fiata is ugly. I hated the ND initially but it's grown on me quite a lot to the point where I quite like it. The Fiat is still as ugly as it was when I first saw it. The old one is prettier. 
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I hated the ND initially but it's grown on me quite a lot to the point where I quite like it. De gustibus non disputandum est
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Deteriorata posted:De gustibus non disputandum est sed tamen ego sum non iniuriam
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I hated the ND initially but it's grown on me quite a lot to the point where I quite like it. If you tarted up the new one with a couple grand worth of lights, a works-esque paint job and some decent wide wheels with flares it would look better, too. I do agree that the original 124 SS has very nice lines and the front of the new one is a bizarre corporate redo of an iconic face.
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It's here guys
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Take it back
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Oct 25, 2016 18:02
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The thread title should be "Read about a new car you hate? Bitch about it here, in the news thread!"
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So how much of this is Mercedes and how much of it is Nissan?
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Throatwarbler posted:It's here guys I like it? That is intentionally a question. I'm unsure.
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KakerMix posted:So how much of this is Mercedes and how much of it is Nissan? Too much.
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 Wow. I... don't even... wow. It even looks as if it's in pain.At the same time, I'm not gonna be surprised if they have trouble meeting demand for that thing.
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Oh, that's going to be very popular around here. Very popular indeed...
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