|
Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787754817061916672 No, it absolutely is not
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:53
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 11, 2024 06:14 |
|
|
Bash the Fash! ...unless it makes our team look bad.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:53
|
|
|
FactsAreUseless posted:This doesn't justify it. Just admit you think violence is good when you like it. Fascism is an existential threat to the modern world and should be resisted with all force. Do you think Germans shouldn't have used all possible means to resist Hitler? However Donald Trump is currently on track to lose, and as such this was just stupid and unnecessary.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:53
|
|
|
The hosed up justifications for a firebombing going on this thread is scary. You people need to take a step back if you're drawing anything "good" out of peoples right to vote being quelled on either side.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:53
|
|
|
Three weeks of this insanity to go.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:54
|
|
|
That sucks. I want Trump to lose, but violence or destruction of property isn't the way. Especially when it means people don't get to vote. Firebombing is only acceptable when you are trying desperately to light a fire to not freeze, and only have this bottle with kerosene and an oily rag stuck in it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:54
|
|
|
Someone from NC confirm this, but if the Trump campaign had completed abentee ballots in the office, wouldn't it be a violation of NC election law?quote:Mark Ballot, Fill out Certificate, Return in Envelope: You mark the Ballot with your choices in the presence of two witnesses (or notary public) who are at least 18 years old and not candidates in the election. The witnesses should not violate your privacy as you vote (unless you need assistance due to a disability); they must sign the certificate on the return envelope and provide their address. Make sure all parts of the form on the envelope are filled out, including your signature, then insert the Ballot in the envelope, and seal and return it as instructed to your county Board of Elections. Likewise, incomplete ballots are mailed directly to the voter. There was no reason for absentee ballots to be in the Trump office.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:54
|
|
|
Not celebrating anyone's votes being lost (even if they are for a terrible person), BUT if anything makes me think "false flag" in this situation, that's definitely it. It's almost too perfectly designed to rile up idiots. "Hillary directed her minions to burn up our building AND destroy our ballots! She's the devil!" 
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:54
|
|
|
Nucleic Acids posted:It'll certainly direct attention away from those three men who were arrested for wanting to bomb that apartment complex and were willing to go so far as to shoot one year olds. I certainly hope not. Do we have a thread for it anywhere?
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:55
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:Fascism is an existential threat to the modern world and should be resisted with all force. Do you think Germans shouldn't have used all possible means to resist Hitler? Actual fascism should be resisted with force, fascist rhetoric should be condemned with way cooler rhetoric, like rhetoric wearing Biden's aviators
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:56
|
|
|
Doorknob Slobber posted:For all we know the person doing the burning could have been the victim of actual racism or some poo poo at which point I don't think its fair for people on the internet judge with no knowledge or background the morality or idiocy of the act. Lightning Knight posted:No, but the American right wing has a history of fabricating attacks on themselves to garner sympathy and establish a "we're the real victims" narrative.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:56
|
|
|
Sinners Sandwich posted:Kind of hating people that are cheering on republican votes being burned up in a fire while attacking Donald Trump on calling the vote rigged. Do you want democracy or not? every vote for trump is a throwaway vote anyway. he aint winning.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:56
|
|
|
Sydney Bottocks posted:Not celebrating anyone's votes being lost (even if they are for a terrible person), BUT if anything makes me think "false flag" in this situation, that's definitely it. It's almost too perfectly designed to rile up idiots. "Hillary directed her minions to burn up our building AND destroy our ballots! She's the devil!" no. stop. please.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:56
|
|
|
Who the gently caress firebombs a campaign office then spraypaints the building next door in nice neat block letters "NAZI REPUBLICANS / LEAVE TOWN / OR ELSE"? Level writing, no vulgarity, the full term "republicans," even centering the lines below the lead. That's the weirdest part of it. I can buy that someone would firebomb a political office. I can buy that someone would neatly and relatively verbosely vandalize a political office. It's weird as gently caress that someone did both at once. That's amazing control over your adrenaline.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:57
|
|
|
Trump is going off on Ryan again. Guess he didn't hear about that fire yet.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:58
|
|
|
The scariest portion of this election (among many scary things) is this final death throe where Hit...er, Trump has gone all-out to delegitimize the results of the election. To an unhinged, room-temp IQ base that is already heavily armed, he is inciting violence with this reckless nonsense. Delegitimizing elections is like authoritarianism 101. And this myopic, violent nonsense just galvanizes these bad opinions. This is a horrible development.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:58
|
|
|
SeANMcBAY posted:Trump is going off on Ryan again. Guess he didn't hear about that fire yet. Did the article contain "Donald J. Trump?" Because he won't find out if it didn't ping the google alert.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:58
|
|
|
speng31b posted:Actual fascism should be resisted with force, fascist rhetoric should be condemned with way cooler rhetoric, like rhetoric wearing Biden's aviators I mean, I agree. Which is why I said this was dumb and unnecessary. At the present time we are not realistically under threat of fascists taking control. quote:This sounds interesting - do you have links? Not presently because I'm on a phone, but look up the backwards B story from 2008, I believe was the year. Alternatively there was this year a white church somewhere (I don't recall anymore) that was supposed tagged with silly anti-white people catchphrases as imagined by white people by "BLM thugs." I'm sure there's more.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 21:59
|
|
|
Sinners Sandwich posted:Kind of hating people that are cheering on republican votes being burned up in a fire while attacking Donald Trump on calling the vote rigged. Do you want democracy or not? It's one of the fundamental truths is that most people, don't want democracy. Mainly because everyone get's the vote. In general and in abstract a democracy is an incredible tool and a fantastic thing. But in particulars? I'd say most people don't care for it so much.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:00
|
|
|
it does kinda suck that people that don't know anything or hate others for no reason get an equal vote to compassionate and educated people.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:01
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/radiofreetom/status/787715001289179136
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:03
|
|
|
I can't believe that we actually have people cheerleading violence against Republicans and destroying votes. Then again, we apparently needed to spend multiple pages reminding people that free speech is actually a good thing, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:03
|
|
|
Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787754817061916672 the gop office shouldn't have sealed absentee ballots at all the only people who can deliver them to the county board are the voter themselves or their relative or guardian and they have to sign off on it
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:03
|
|
SeANMcBAY posted:Trump is going off on Ryan again. Guess he didn't hear about that fire yet. Considering how every single thing he's commented on before has backfired in his face, maybe this time his handlers are waiting to get at least some degree of confirmation before they let him loose, in case it turns out that the suspect resembled a self confessed British political pimp.
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:04
|
|
|
Random rear end in a top hat posted:I can't believe that we actually have people cheerleading violence against Republicans and destroying votes. Then again, we apparently needed to spend multiple pages reminding people that free speech is actually a good thing, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. the destruction of votes is only bad in the sense that it gives trump ammo. because he isn't winning so any vote for him is a waste.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:04
|
|
|
If the GOP had possession of any completed absentee ballots in that office, it would have been a felony:quote:Any person who shall, in connection with absentee voting in any election held in this State, do any of the acts or things declared in this section to be unlawful, shall be guilty of a Class I felony. It shall be unlawful:
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:04
|
|
|
Geoff Peterson posted:To be clear- Fascists are an existential threat to any kind of government. Democracies in particular are vulnerable against them. Violence isn't a brave or noble answer, but it's the only kind of language the fascists will understand. And yes, it is a privilege to live in a free country that has never been subject to fascism. I think in part because it's never really been a thing in the states, people don't actually comprehend how bad the fascists actually are. Someone in the UKMT summed up Brexit voters by their willingness to believe in untruths even with the vast amount of evidence in place that proves otherwise. I think that applies here as well. I was hoping the fascists were gone forever, but we managed to gently caress it all up somehow and here they are. Trump won't be the last, by the way.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:04
|
|
|
Random rear end in a top hat posted:I can't believe that we actually have people cheerleading violence against Republicans and destroying votes. Then again, we apparently needed to spend multiple pages reminding people that free speech is actually a good thing, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. How do you not believe this? We're not better than that. The thing that really makes us better is the fact that the rest of us spend pages condemning those comments and hand wringing about it. So really you should pat yourself on the back.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:05
|
|
|
FactsAreUseless posted:This doesn't justify it. Just admit you think violence is good when you like it. Violence is good when it's funny, as demonstrated in 90s award winning classic movie Man Getting Hit By A Football.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:06
|
|
|
Trabisnikof posted:Is it normal for a party to collect completed Absentee ballots in NC? I'm pretty sure that would be illegal in some states. the reporter followed up on it https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787760661799510018 https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/787761336826654720 surprise surprise the gop spokesperson is either full of poo poo or just incompetent
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:07
|
|
|
Mister Adequate posted:Violence is good when it's funny, as demonstrated in 90s award winning classic movie Man Getting Hit By A Football. The George C. Scott remake just didn't have the same spirit as the original.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:07
|
|
|
Alec Bald Snatch posted:the gop office shouldn't have sealed absentee ballots at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku5iVU3zhLU edit:Trump is melting down again too if anyone cares.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:07
|
|
|
Trabisnikof posted:If the GOP had possession of any completed absentee ballots in that office, it would have been a felony: That makes this immensely more interesting, honestly. Dead Cosmonaut posted:Fascists are an existential threat to any kind of government. Democracies in particular are vulnerable against them. Violence isn't a brave or noble answer, but it's the only kind of language the fascists will understand. I broadly agree with this. The potential need to resort to violence is never ideal, but that doesn't preclude it from being necessary against the greatest threats. Fascism is the greatest threat to our civilization there was ever been, period. Remember: Hitler and his friends in Italy, Japan, etc. didn't have nuclear weapons. We do. Trump may not be the last but this was their last chance to get elected fair and square. If they want in after this point they're going to need a new approach.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:08
|
|
|
i said that to point out the story was likely bullshit because it's a felony
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:09
|
|
|
Alec Bald Snatch posted:the reporter followed up on it I'd say "oh please god let this start an investigation" but I think NC would only do that if it wasn't a GOP office...
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:10
|
|
|
Random rear end in a top hat posted:I can't believe that we actually have people cheerleading violence against Republicans and destroying votes. Then again, we apparently needed to spend multiple pages reminding people that free speech is actually a good thing, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Let's take a consequentilist look at the situation. In an abstract sense if the vote had gone differently in Florida back in 2000 and there'd been several thousand ballots lost due to a fire in George Bushes favour, would that be a negative thing, bearing in mind what's come out of all of that? I mean yeah it could always be worse results up to now, but would it be worth it based on the amount of people killed in the Middle East and the rise of ISIS? Would it be worth it? I don't know, and can't answer that, but it may very well have been for the betterment of mankind generally if that had happened. Again I feel like I need to point out that these are purely hypothetical situations etc etc. But why are people on the "right" side not allowed to have two seconds of guilty "ha!" style pleasure without being immediately called on it. Whilst the other side is allowed to call for the mass disenfranchisement of minorities and the shooting dead of sports people and presidential candidates?
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:11
|
|
|
cult member at airport posted:https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/787748100324503552 At worst, this sounds like an insane delusional person having as one of its delusions that they're influencing presidential candidate and extremely rich dude Donald Trump, which is not all that interesting.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:11
|
|
|
FactsAreUseless posted:This doesn't justify it. Just admit you think violence is good when you like it. Unless you are a strict pacifist, so do you
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:12
|
|
|
Alec Bald Snatch posted:the reporter followed up on it "We may have been committing a felony, I'm not sure" doesn't seem like a thing likely to be said on the record by anyone who isn't a complete loving moron.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:13
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 11, 2024 06:14 |
|
|
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/787763497308418052 Clinton now entering into the coverup phase of her dastardly democraterror campaign.
|
|
#
?
Oct 16, 2016 22:15
|
|