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you see its not really gambling it RPG gambling
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that guy is pretty sick and should probably rethink his life choices
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Oct 17, 2016 17:45
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Reverand maynard posted:Don't actually free elusif Harsh but fair.
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Oct 17, 2016 17:46
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Orange Red Bull posted:that guy is pretty sick and should probably rethink his life choices speaking of sick, someone in our IRC said you seem to be autistic (not that I'm implying mental disorders are an illness), can you please confirm if you're an actual autist irl, or if you just post like one
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Oct 17, 2016 17:51
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Landsknecht posted:most RMT probably happen in corp, which is the old goonfleet standard, aka keeping it all in-alliance Hi I can comment on this a bit. This used to matter. CCP did not generally care about isk transfers between A) Characters with the same IP B) Characters within the same corp C) Characters within the same alliance. CCP also did not generally allow chatlogs from outside the game itself to be used in RMT investigations. Post darius johnson those things don't seem to matter. I guess they needed someone to be an rear end in a top hat and prove that nobody cared. Now if you do something suspicious it is your problem and your responsibility to prove your innocence.
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Oct 17, 2016 17:52
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Post darius johnson those things don't seem to matter. I guess they needed someone to be an rear end in a top hat and prove that nobody cared. Now if you do something suspicious it is your problem and your responsibility to prove your innocence. However, "I talked my friend into Also space dollars for steam games isn't RMT... okay. Because... reasons.
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Oct 17, 2016 17:57
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Hi I can comment on this a bit. This used to matter. CCP did not generally care about isk transfers between A) Characters with the same IP B) Characters within the same corp C) Characters within the same alliance. CCP also did not generally allow chatlogs from outside the game itself to be used in RMT investigations. luckily pandemic legion now has one darius johnson in alliance showing us all of the dirty tricks and secrets to maintain our place as the elite of eve but in actual seriousness, I see so much of "someone send me 5bil cause i need more purps for my titan" or "someone send me a plex quick i'll get you later" going on that it seems impossible for ccp to filter out in-corp/alliance stuff
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Oct 17, 2016 17:57
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Maybe they've toned it down recently but for a while there people were getting destroyed for just about anything.
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Oct 17, 2016 17:59
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Landsknecht posted:luckily pandemic legion now has one darius johnson in alliance showing us all of the dirty tricks and secrets to maintain our place as the elite of eve I give it 2 weeks before someone does something retarded and they all get kicked.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:00
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During the kengoku fountain nonsense I also learned that through a sheer number of reports literally anyone can get temp banned for botting regardless of any other evidence. I had a guy I was testing ishtars in, kenzoku fleet comes in, entire kenzoku fleet reports me as bot, 45 minutes later I ate a 30 day ban. Meanwhile my actual tengu bots in venal which were operating at the same time suffered absolutely no ill effects and neither did myself or my evegold customers.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:02
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Landsknecht posted:speaking of sick, someone in our IRC said you seem to be autistic (not that I'm implying mental disorders are an illness), can you please confirm if you're an actual autist irl, or if you just post like one i do not have autism but why dont you post about posting some more hi PL IRC still #2 legion
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Oct 17, 2016 18:03
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:During the kengoku fountain nonsense I also learned that through a sheer number of reports literally anyone can get temp banned for botting regardless of any other evidence. I had a guy I was testing ishtars in, kenzoku fleet comes in, entire kenzoku fleet reports me as bot, 45 minutes later I ate a 30 day ban. Meanwhile my actual tengu bots in venal which were operating at the same time suffered absolutely no ill effects and neither did myself or my evegold customers.  
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Oct 17, 2016 18:06
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Xolve posted:Can you just... not? Show some solidarity now that we're both in the same corp and all.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:06
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Xolve posted:I give it 2 weeks before someone does something retarded and they all get kicked. there's already a lot of dumb poo poo going on in the recruitment forum E Equals MC Hammer posted:During the kengoku fountain nonsense I also learned that through a sheer number of reports literally anyone can get temp banned for botting regardless of any other evidence. I had a guy I was testing ishtars in, kenzoku fleet comes in, entire kenzoku fleet reports me as bot, 45 minutes later I ate a 30 day ban. Meanwhile my actual tengu bots in venal which were operating at the same time suffered absolutely no ill effects and neither did myself or my evegold customers. I could see some GM just seeing a pile of reports and pressing butan, instead of doing actual work. A lot of EVE pve (especially belt ratting) lends itself amazingly well to botting; people are now able to write bots that level characters in wow, most eve pve is super-simple in comparison.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:07
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Zephyrine posted:Show some solidarity now that we're both in the same corp and all. At first I was like oh hey Zeph got into PL and then oh. Anyway in regards to Baccy criticizing my discussion with DJ. I feel like that's a bit silly - we both said our piece, decided the other party was probably cooler than we initially thought, and went our separate ways pleasantly. I know -- totally cringy stuff right?  For all the people who tell me to shut the gently caress up, there sure are some nerds in this thread who think they're above themselves needing to shut up sometimes and aren't. Not my problem, but a problem nonetheless.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:12
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is this the thread where I can post about fits? someone tell me about the asb vagas, vs large cap battery + deadspace booster vagas
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Oct 17, 2016 18:15
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Daco Vato posted:At first I was like oh hey Zeph got into PL and then oh. No-ho-ho not in a million years. PL plays chess in Eve and I play tic-tac-toe on the same board. Landsknecht posted:is this the thread where I can post about fits? someone tell me about the asb vagas, vs large cap battery + deadspace booster vagas The chill thread does stuff like that. Zephyrine fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 18:17
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Daco Vato posted:At first I was like oh hey Zeph got into PL and then oh. I pretty much stopped playing (in July) when Killah Bee went full emo and would go on 30 minute tangents about how everyone in the alliance was worthless and undeserving of PL's content creation team because we only had 7 logi instead of 8, or some other equally stupid nonsense. His head got pretty big after "we won" or whatever.  (apparently russian camgirls really like that tweet) I heard there's been some pretty good blowouts in SNIGG#1 lately, including Ronald J. Mexico getting booted the gently caress out (and into ISRAD). Too bad the next time I get the itch to play a bad spaceship game, the plug will no doubt have been pulled because 'x killed EVE' finally happened. Xolve fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 18:26
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Xolve posted:content creation team  is this an actual quote
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Oct 17, 2016 18:34
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Xolve posted:I pretty much stopped playing (in July) when Killah Bee went full emo and would go on 30 minute tangents about how everyone in the alliance was worthless and undeserving of PL's content creation team because we only had 7 logi instead of 8, or some other equally stupid nonsense. His head got pretty big after "we won" or whatever. Were you EUTZ? I haven't been on a killah fleet in a while; the last thing I really remember from one was people getting all emo over nonconsensual fleetwarps. I think he's chill again though (an gets drunk on comms often). This weekend we did a nano-roam down through vale; we got a fair amount of kills (including an 800mil isk capsule lmao), but it was just a lot of fun. I like roaming a lot more than fleet stuff, especially when there's targets. Also those cloak nerfs that happened a few years ago suck and are dumb.
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Oct 17, 2016 18:34
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:
not an actual quote AFAIK, but there is a group of guys in PL who will put in a lot of work (scout timers, get spy intel, prep wh chains) to set up stuff for the alliance it's not super often, but every few weeks someone finds something really good and we end up somewhere and dumpster like 70 BS and some caps or something edit: I think someone like this happened with your bhal fleet recently
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Oct 17, 2016 18:37
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Landsknecht posted:not an actual quote AFAIK oh okay, like if that was what they called themselves then i'd be lol'ing out loud in irl
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Oct 17, 2016 18:39
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:
It's a condensed summation of what he said, dude literally went off on multiple occasions for 10+ minutes about how unhappy he was, why we were disrespecting fcs, if you don't have [insert snowflake doctrine crap here] you're a worthless retard and other inconsequential poo poo I wasn't rally willing to actually listen to from some newguarde 'babby's first campaign' idiot. It was pretty loving stupid. It got to the point where I looked at his pings the way I imagine half of GSF looks at boat pings, and stop logging in for his fleets. Landsknecht posted:Were you EUTZ? I haven't been on a killah fleet in a while; the last thing I really remember from one was people getting all emo over nonconsensual fleetwarps. I think he's chill again though (an gets drunk on comms often). I work nights, so I mostly played with AUTZ(m) dudes or Euros in the morning. Saranen, Hak and lolVenal made me miss Amamake too much, so I moved back to the motherland, logged out and unsubbed mid-July. Xolve fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 18:40
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:oh okay, like if that was what they called themselves then i'd be lol'ing out loud in irl I'd assume it was more like "a few of us spent 2 hours scouting out WH chains and keeping eyes on these hostiles, the least you can do is get in a logi and log in your links, also don't complain when I rapidly fleet-warp us all over the system (a killah bee special)" e: xolve answered above
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Oct 17, 2016 18:42
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Xolve posted:It's a condensed summation of what he said, dude literally went off on multiple occasions for 10+ minutes about how unhappy he was, why we were disrespecting fcs, if you don't have [insert snowflake doctrine crap here] you're a worthless retard and other inconsequential poo poo I wasn't rally willing to actually listen to from some newguarde 'babby's first campaign' idiot. Do other FCs not go on other FCs fleets? why didn't anyone smash his dick
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Oct 17, 2016 18:44
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Landsknecht posted:I'd assume it was more like "a few of us spent 2 hours scouting out WH chains and keeping eyes on these hostiles, the least you can do is get in a logi and log in your links, also don't complain when I rapidly fleet-warp us all over the system (a killah bee special)" This was pretty much it, but it wasn't about fleet warps it was about the number of Logi he wanted, or maybe dictors- I don't really remember. Reverand maynard posted:Do other FCs not go on other FCs fleets? why didn't anyone smash his dick Yeah, but after the Makalu, PK and Mukk times, I think dudes just sit back and let other people do their thing now. Nothing sucks more than trying to brawl 150 provi nerds with 60 dudes and your -A- allstar FC team decides to start a rigorous debate about who should be primary (at the same time). It was the worst of times, and never the best of times. Xolve fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 18:45
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Xolve posted:It was pretty loving stupid. It got to the point where I looked at his pings the way I imagine half of GSF looks at boat pings, and stop logging in for his fleets. harsh, but fair
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Oct 17, 2016 18:53
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For the most part I'd say about 70% of PL are guys with high-skill characters (and titans), decent game skills (understanding of mechanics, fleet procedures, etc), 20% are savant-y guys who work hard to do everything, and 10% are elite pvpers who run around lowsec with linked snake succubi or some other fotm cancer
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Oct 17, 2016 18:58
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learnincurve posted:Have the bans been handed out, isk confiscated and whatnot yet? Other than the IWI guy I've not seen a whole lot of drama. Yes, they did the bans in advance because giving people with a ton of assets and ability to disguise them warning that they're going to be banned is dumb. Outside IWI there's not been a whole lot of whining because the only people banned were IWI and some tiny nobody that literally no-one cared about. Eve-bet was the other big player and they were clean, so they get the last month to keep operating and shut down cleanly. They keep their rep, the profits they've made running the thing, and probably have a substantial amount of goodwill at CCP if they move on to a new non-gambling thing. E Equals MC Hammer posted:During the kengoku fountain nonsense I also learned that through a sheer number of reports literally anyone can get temp banned for botting regardless of any other evidence. I had a guy I was testing ishtars in, kenzoku fleet comes in, entire kenzoku fleet reports me as bot, 45 minutes later I ate a 30 day ban. Meanwhile my actual tengu bots in venal which were operating at the same time suffered absolutely no ill effects and neither did myself or my evegold customers. OTOH I'd bet you didn't dispute with a support ticket, because getting someone to look at your accounts for bot-like activity would not have ended well.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:13
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Daco Vato posted:Anyway in regards to Baccy criticizing my discussion with DJ. I feel like that's a bit silly - we both said our piece, decided the other party was probably cooler than we initially thought, and went our separate ways pleasantly. I know -- totally cringy stuff right? You are incapable of making me cringe. DJ is another story entirely. The sort of mental gymnastics he uses are top-tier MK ULTRA type poo poo. I really like the part where he talked poo poo about Johnny-Come-Latelys on SA despite using it as a recruitment platform, and then acts like you're echelon's above the GSF line membership in terms of reasonableness because he basically exhausted himself with  and you hadn't hosed off yet. Although four months ago you were literally everything he said was wrong with this alliance when he decided to sperg out like a loving tard... It's almost like he makes whatever arguments are most convenient for him at the time. Orange Red Bull posted:that guy is pretty sick and should probably rethink his life choices If it's serious then he needs to keep going full speed ahead. This is a priceless meltdown and I want to savor every moment of it... even though I have my reservations.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:14
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Klyith posted:Yes, they did the bans in advance because giving people with a ton of assets and ability to disguise them warning that they're going to be banned is dumb. Other option would be to track every account on the naughty list and ban the prominent ones who will sound the brown alert, make the announcement and say they already banned everyone that got caught, then use subsequent activity to discover laundry/parachute/hacked accounts as well. Then after a day or two delete all isk that has been transferred, ban the bads, and investigate all the newly flagged accounts Dunno if CCP is that clever though.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:37
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Are people still complaining about OP T3Ds and how awful Assault Frigates are? Because I had an idea! Link to the EVE-forums if you can stand the awfulness. You of course couldn't posted:Some time ago Interceptors got this nice additional role bonus making them immune to undirected interdiction like bubbles. This turned out to be powerful enough to make them taxis and low-scale raiding forces everywhere in EVE. So, would this change bring Assault Frigates back from oblivion? Too much? Not enough?
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Oct 17, 2016 19:40
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Libluini posted:Are people still complaining about OP T3Ds and how awful Assault Frigates are? Because I had an idea! Scram immunity is probably a bit too strong, and immunities themselves are just really lazy design and should be a last resort. I'd say +2 natural warp strength would be better, then you can pepper them with racial bonuses that make sense (with T2 resist profiles that match) and either a role bonus to active rep/+falloff ++damage
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Oct 17, 2016 19:50
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Ashterothi posted:
So did Mittens actually say anything inflammatory on The Meta Show, or what? I honestly have no idea who Ashterothi is except that one time I was on talking in stations and holy poo poo this guy couldn't get off his righteous indignation even for three seconds. e: I don't want to sit through the Meta Show unless there's some paydirt so someone LMK. Baculus fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Oct 17, 2016 |
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Oct 17, 2016 19:50
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Scram immunity sounds like it would turn AFs into cheaper orthruses.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:53
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tickets to the gunt show posted:So did Mittens actually say anything inflammatory on The Meta Show, or what?  
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Oct 17, 2016 19:54
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A site named "I want ISK" was never meant for Eve Online, the only game in the world that has currency named ISK. He has gone full retard.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:55
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Xolve posted:Scram immunity is probably a bit too strong, and immunities themselves are just really lazy design and should be a last resort.
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Oct 17, 2016 19:57
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tickets to the gunt show posted:So did Mittens actually say anything inflammatory on The Meta Show, or what? I watched the VOD last night and the chat was full of rmt/casino apologists and pearl clutchers
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