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WeAreTheRomans posted:Is that actually true though? Like if you look at international examples, the Dutch don't smoke nearly as much weed as their neighbours who still criminalise it I was joking. I have no idea about the actual statistics.
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Epic High Five posted:Does she get concerned about the liquor section in her supermarket?
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Samurai Sanders posted:I assumed the statistics about who smokes pot right after its legalized would be highly volatile for a while and lend themselves to whatever interpretation anyone would want to make, and then settle into some new equilibrium later. Sounds like some poo poo a stoner would say.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I assumed the statistics about who smokes pot right after its legalized would be highly volatile for a while and lend themselves to whatever interpretation anyone would want to make, and then settle into some new equilibrium later. My thinking in general is that the exact same amount of people smoke pot as before. Not sure what the figures are.
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I cast my vote for Hillary today in Indiana. This was my first early voting experience and it was pretty awesome. I fully recommend it if you don't already do it. Who knows, we may get lucky. I don't think so though, based off work conversations and trump signs in yards. I think Indiana is going to stay a healthy red this year.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Any of Assange's new friends in the GOP react to this yet? The stuff about him using the KATIA Project is really super skeevy, although why would you choose an alleged rapist to front something like this. And using Wikileaks to attack ToddandClare and female employees of the company is the worst. BTW, The Guardian is reporting that Wikileaks is saying that it was Ecuador that cut his feed. They're claiming that they're still willing to protect his political asylum, but haven't given a motivation regarding why they cut his WiFi. Herstory Begins Now posted:Assange seems genuinenly like a narcissistic POS who probably is guilty of a lot of what he's allegedly done, but the sources behind that are legit fishy unless something new came out. Also the general premise doesn't make a lot of sense: why is an 8 year old on a dating site? The 8-year old is a younger sister of a member. I'm not sure how he contacted her after that.
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Epic High Five posted:Does she get concerned about the liquor section in her supermarket? Listen if you had kids like hers you'd ALSO need to drink a glass (bottle) of wine a day.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Assuming Trump has no path to victory, does he have a path to a Florida-2000-recount scenario? In practice,  but go for chrissakes vote
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dont even fink about it posted:If Wikileaks had jack poo poo we would have seen it by now. What we are getting now are the blubberings of a narcissist who has made common cause with a tyrant because he's the only guy who doesn't care if he's brought up on charges. No no, I don't think wikileaks has jack poo poo, I'm just wondering if in the middle of all this absolutely nothingness, they'll release a little thing thats completely made up, but looks like THE BIGGEST SHOCKER EVER with no time before the election to say 'lol no this is false' and have it drift out of the media cycle.
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Re: GOP downfall, surely it's a split rather than a downfall? It seems to me like a party of rich neoliberal free-marketeers who have realised they can win over uneducated poor people by appealing to racism, culture wars etc. Which is pretty much the same as conservative parties all over the English speaking world, with the obvious difference that in the UK (for example) they're absolutely killing it and ushering in a 1000-year reich, whereas in the US they pushed it too far and nominated an unelectable demagogue (at least in the presidential elections). From a zoomed out viewpoint Trump really just feels like Tea Party 2.0, or a personality-driven aberration, and next election cycle we're just going to go back to dog-whistling and committee-chosen GOP candidates and the entire Republican establishment will have a stiff drink and pretend this never happened. The only alternative I can see is a split between the Trumpist burn-it-all-down base and the more civilised gently caress-the-poor suit-wearing Rubios and Cruzes, which ushers in decades of Democrat rule, which just seems like too nice an option for the universe to ever allow.
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dont even fink about it posted:My thinking in general is that the exact same amount of people smoke pot as before. Not sure what the figures are.
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Harton posted:Who knows, we may get lucky. I don't think so though, based off work conversations and trump signs in yards. I think Indiana is going to stay a healthy red this year. Based on the yard signs in my corner of Indiana, Gary Johnson is going to win in a landslide. Yard signs are meaningless.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Assuming Trump has no path to victory, does he have a path to a Florida-2000-recount scenario? If Trump has no paths to victory the election can't be close. If the margin was 2 points or less you could theoretically have enough states to matter to be within 0.5-1 points, but if she's winning by 3 or more she's going to win enough EVs to require large scale shenanigans to steal the election 2000 style, the sort of shenanigans that Trump are calling and which are impossible to pull off because you'd need to rig the election within multiple states. At this point she's more likely to win by 10 than by 2.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I figured it would be a bit more but who cares? The whole idea of legalizing pot is that it's just not a very big deal. It being a crime is a big deal. Most people who want to use marijuana, already do so whether it's legal or not.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Most people who want to use marijuana, already do so whether it's legal or not. Eh who knows, lots of unsupported assertions. I would personally smoke a little more if it was legal here, but then maybe I'd get bored after a while. 
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Theris posted:Based on the yard signs in my corner of Indiana, Gary Johnson is going to win in a landslide. Broad Ripple
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Eh who knows, lots of unsupported assertions. I would personally smoke a little more if it was legal here, but then maybe I'd get bored after a while. Fair enough, I admit that I'm just going off my own anecdotal experience since my state legalized recreational use last year. I only know one person who never tried it before solely because it was illegal. I think you probably get former casual users who might use it more because it's legal. I've only done it a few times since it's been legal and it just kind of bores me now. 
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Theris posted:Based on the yard signs in my corner of Indiana, Gary Johnson is going to win in a landslide. Yeah they may be meaningless but they sure piss me the gently caress off. One benefit is that it's like hanging a giant "stupid rear end in a top hat" banner on your house.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Most people who want to use marijuana, already do so whether it's legal or not. I wonder what percentage that actually is, though. What fraction of the populace wants to try marijuana but refuses because it's illegal? Half? Over half? Would marijuana be as popular as alcohol if not for its legal status?
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Harton posted:Yeah they may be meaningless but they sure piss me the gently caress off. One benefit is that it's like hanging a giant "stupid rear end in a top hat" banner on your house.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Lots of states don't let you sell anything harder than wine at private stores, only state-run liquor stores. Aren't they like always right next door tho owned by the same company? I thought it was only PA that does all state-run
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I know, the Kitchn kinda sucks, but this article is a pretty quick glance at it. Also it's not sponsored content.
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Based on where I live in Indiana (Bloomingon), Clinton is going to secure the state easily and Gregg will be swept in with a comfy 30 point margin
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Fair enough, I admit that I'm just going off my own anecdotal experience since my state legalized recreational use last year. I only know one person who never tried it before solely because it was illegal. I think you probably get former casual users who might use it more because it's legal. I've only done it a few times since it's been legal and it just kind of bores me now. Mostly as I get older weed is more of a paranoid than fun buzz. But maybe that's because I'm more of a stupid rear end in a top hat and people actually are bitching about me 
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FactsAreUseless posted:I know, the Kitchn kinda sucks, but this article is a pretty quick glance at it. Also it's not sponsored content. Well in Indiana we'll be fighting medical marijuana by the time every other state has legal weed and our hard liquor is right next to the peanut butter 
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QuarkJets posted:I wonder what percentage that actually is, though. What fraction of the populace wants to try marijuana but refuses because it's illegal? Half? Over half? Would marijuana be as popular as alcohol if not for its legal status? I could be totally wrong but it seems like marijuana has become so mainstream and it's pretty much everywhere that I have a hard time imagining the person who would be adventurous enough to try it but so square that they don't because it's illegal. They totally exist but it just seems like such a weird type of person to me. I will say if employment drug screens weren't a thing, I think you'd have a lot more users because of that.
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QuarkJets posted:I wonder what percentage that actually is, though. What fraction of the populace wants to try marijuana but refuses because it's illegal? Half? Over half? Would marijuana be as popular as alcohol if not for its legal status? Anecdotally, it seems that weed is more self-limiting than alcohol. People who get paranoid from weed just don't use, whereas people who suffer negative effects from booze keep using in larger numbers. I know a lot of people who get sick from alcohol yet still drink regularly.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I know, the Kitchn kinda sucks, but this article is a pretty quick glance at it. Also it's not sponsored content. It's also out-of-date. We privatised liquor sales in Washington a while ago. Turns out Costco has a lot of political pull in the state where it's headquartered, who knew?
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lozzle posted:It's also out-of-date. We privatised liquor sales in Washington a while ago. Turns out Costco has a lot of political pull in the state where it's headquartered, who knew?
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lozzle posted:It's also out-of-date. We privatised liquor sales in Washington a while ago. Turns out Costco has a lot of political pull in the state where it's headquartered, who knew? I live in Oregon so I remember a little bit about when that happened. The  from the groups against privatized sales was pretty funny, if I remember right.FactsAreUseless posted:Oh yeah, I didn't even look to see if stuff was still in date. Washington liquor privatization has been terrible for consumers, lmao. Did it really have a negative effect? I just remember it sounded like a lot of scare mongering from people who had in interest in keeping their monopoly and "what about the children" types.
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The Republicans want to cause a constitutional crisis don't they? http://www.npr.org/2016/10/17/498328520/sen-mccain-says-republicans-will-block-all-court-nominations-if-clinton-wins
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Father O'Blivion posted:Broad Ripple Fishers/Lawrence/NE Indy. Trump signs fade out and change to Clinton signs as you get into Indy, but it feels like there's always at least as many Johnson signs as either major candidate. They're usually in places other than yards, so I'm sure it's a couple dedicated lolbertarians loading up their car and scattering them around.
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Meredith Baxter-Burnout posted:Did it really have a negative effect? I just remember it sounded like a lot of scare mongering from people who had in interest in keeping their monopoly and "what about the children" types.
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