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rear end Catchcum posted:Stfu about that maz statue. apparantly the statue was a gift to her from her husband.
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I'm still curious as to what regulatory body oversees the reading and interpretation of artistic works. According to some people in this thread, we might very well be in violation of the law! Edit: Maz's statue of herself is baller and that's all we need to know
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:It's analogous to a peacock displaying his feathers as a show of status. You aren't backing down?? I must display harder and become aggressive! What, you still say you like them? That's not fair, you're not playing by the rules!
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rear end Catchcum posted:Stfu about that maz statue. The only people that bring it up are people who enjoy the prequels and it's because they read way too much into things (because, with the prequels, you HAVE to read too much into them to get anything of substance). could you write up a list of permitted tfa subjects tia
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Serf posted:I'm still curious as to what regulatory body oversees the reading and interpretation of artistic works. According to some people in this thread, we might very well be in violation of the law! The problem seems to be that prequel talk ruins their fun, and makes it impossible to talk about the things that they want to talk about. What those things are exactly is unclear, but I guess the idea is that we'd find out if only we'd stop clogging up the thread with prequel nonsense. Of course, as I pointed out, we stopped talking about the prequels for several days last week and the thread went completely silent. Nobody stepped in and was like "hell yea now its our time!" Nobody said poo poo.
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Oct 18, 2016 16:29
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Phi230 posted:The problem is speculation. We cant really talk about TFA without prequel tards droning on about how Snoke is Jar Jar loving Binks or Mace Windu. Sorry about all those awful prequel-likers constantly victimizing you.
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Oct 18, 2016 16:30
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sassassin posted:How does not knowing what's going to happen in a sequel make it impossible to talk about a film that has actually been released? I think a lot of the meaning of TFA hinges on the missing backstory. For instance, it's hard to interpret Kylo Ren's actions when we don't understand what drove him away from his family. It's similar for Rey—there are a lot of hints that she's Luke's daughter, but we don't really know anything about how she ended up on Jakku, and that information is pretty crucial for understanding both Rey and Luke as characters. This also happened to a lesser extent with TPM. Without the other two prequels to provide context, most of TPM's subtle ironies go unnoticed, and the experience of watching young Darth Vader as a sweet little kid seems more bizarre.
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Basebf555 posted:The problem seems to be that prequel talk ruins their fun, and makes it impossible to talk about the things that they want to talk about. What those things are exactly is unclear, but I guess the idea is that we'd find out if only we'd stop clogging up the thread with prequel nonsense. I suspect that once Rogue One is released the thread will get a shot in the arm. But until then, there's not much to talk about on the "new Star Wars" front.
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Oct 18, 2016 16:31
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Serf posted:I suspect that once Rogue One is released the thread will get a shot in the arm. But until then, there's not much to talk about on the "new Star Wars" front. So close the thread until then?
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people who wine about what's being talked about in this thread are basically indy from last crusade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dxh-_GR5Ns (7m34s)
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Basebf555 posted:So close the thread until then? I love this thread, please don't close it mods 
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sassassin posted:How does not knowing what's going to happen in a sequel make it impossible to talk about a film that has actually been released? It normally doesn't - but, in the case of TFA itself, there's seriously nothing to talk about. RLM barely produced ten minutes of commentary on the subject. I ran out of stuff to say after a few posts.
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It's a little telling that the most extensive discussion about TFA in the last six months has been people speculating about Rey's heritage and trying to make it anyone but the obvious person.
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computer parts posted:It's a little telling that the most extensive discussion about TFA in the last six months has been people speculating about Rey's heritage and trying to make it anyone but the obvious person. Like I said, it's an attemptat making characters like Snoke interesting. In the movie he's a garbage character, but maybe he's actually Plaguis! Darth Plaguis, who only exists in a few lines of dialogue, is the far more interesting character. And he's from the prequels.
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 Star Wars'a official twitter tweeted this today. All but confirmed that long held fan theory.
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My hope is that Snoke's hologrammical nature is a double fakeout and he actually is a giant. Keep Star Wars Weird
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I wonder how long the Knights of Ren have been around. Did the Jedi ever know about them or did they pop up in the years after the Empire collapsed (or during it)?quote:Darth Plaguis, who only exists in a few lines of dialogue, is the far more interesting character. And he's from the prequels. The only way that would be interesting is if he virgin birthed Rey too, for whatever reason. Who cares otherwise?
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Why does rey even gotta be related to anyone Also notice how TFA tied itself to the OT and forsake the prequels. And was much more well received and made more money. The sequel trilogy is a return to form for star wars after a tragic misstep. We are now in a position to move forward and leave the awkward middle period behind. Also lol @ prequel likers saying itt that TFA was a bad movie b/c they cant over analyse and over intellectualize it b/c it did a good job. You see the movie and absorb it all and have mystery left over. It is solid where the prequels are porous. Their quality is so lacking that you MUST dig deep through a mountain of poo poo to find any substance (and much of that substance is imagined). I will also say that people who harp about parentage miss the point. We are supposed to talk about substantive things not speculation in general. There is nothing to talk about because TFA built a good foundation. There is nothing loose that needs to be debated or discussed. There are no holes that need to be filled with spergy bullshit
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RBA Starblade posted:I wonder how long the Knights of Ren have been around. Did the Jedi ever know about them or did they pop up in the years after the Empire collapsed (or during it)? They appear to be a post-OT organization set up either by Snoke or Kylo.
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RBA Starblade posted:I wonder how long the Knights of Ren have been around I bet they popped up in the Jedi/Sith vacuum
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Phi230 posted:Also notice how TFA tied itself to the OT and forsake the prequels. And was much more well received and made more money. The sequel trilogy is a return to form for star wars after a tragic misstep. We are now in a position to move forward and leave the awkward middle period behind. How did it "forsake the prequels"?
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Basebf555 posted:The problem seems to be that [unpopular movie talk] ruins their fun, and makes it impossible to talk about the things that they want to talk about. What those things are exactly is unclear, but I guess the idea is that we'd find out if only we'd stop clogging up the thread with [unpopular movie talk].
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Like I said, it's an attemptat making characters like Snoke interesting. In the movie he's a garbage character, but maybe he's actually Plaguis! Youre placing undue importance on Snoke. Snoke is secondary. A means to drive the story. He isnt important at this time but youre trying to make him important. He will be relevant LATER.
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Phi230 posted:Youre placing undue importance on Snoke. Snoke is secondary. A means to drive the story. He isnt important at this time but youre trying to make him important. Just like Thanos.
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Phi230 posted:Youre placing undue importance on Snoke. Snoke is secondary. A means to drive the story. He isnt important at this time but youre trying to make him important. phi230 what is your favorite scene from tfa and why?
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Serf posted:How did it "forsake the prequels"? There is an understanding that JJ tried to return to the true path (OT) in all forms. That the prequel trilogy was irrelevant in TFAs creation.
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Phi230 posted:There is an understanding that JJ tried to return to the true path (OT) in all forms. That the prequel trilogy was irrelevant in TFAs creation. "There is an understanding" where? computer parts posted:Just like Thanos. If the movie Thanos kills Spider-Man by sealing his head in a block of concrete, it will all be worth it.
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computer parts posted:They appear to be a post-OT organization set up either by Snoke or Kylo. It'd be amazing if it turns out that, like Kylo, it's all a facade for incredibly whiny babies that he created like two days after running away from the Jedi.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I ran out of stuff to say after a few posts. My favorite part of TFA.
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rear end Catchcum posted:My favorite part of TFA. what is your favorite scene from tfa and why?
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I like the maz cantina scene because it reminded me of the ot cantina and I thought some of the costumes were gorgeous.
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My favorite scene from TFA is when Rey returns to her home before meeting BB-8. It was a nice quiet moment with a lot going on in the background. My favorite detail was the little doll she had made for herself that looked like a Rebel pilot.
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Phi230 posted:He will be relevant LATER. He is irrelevant now.
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i like the part when the first order attacks the bar and the xwings fly in and poe blasts a bunch of tie fighters and storm troopers. then finn says something stupid but it was a cool scene
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Waffles Inc. posted:phi230 what is your favorite scene from tfa and why? 1. When Rey has the flasbacks by touching the saber and subsequently rejecting them and running away. This is a classic step on the heroes' 12 step program, rejection of the call. She is enamoured with jedi and the force but is afraid when encounters it and runs. Very humanizing. Return to Star Wars by adding mysticism. 2. When Finn takes up arms against Kylo. Finn isnt a fighter and he knows this. But to defend his friend he nuts up and fights. Characterization of loyalty. Good. That entire last scene is great. We finally have a cathartic, visceral, emotional sword fight where the characters we care about are the crux, not flashy lightsabers being the focus. Although I admit cinematographically TFA is....safe. Nothing amazing but nothing boring either. Star Destroyer crashed in background is the only really stunning shot. Kylo's conflict on the bridge with han is good with half his face in red/darkness is a good shot. I suspect Rogue One is gonna have some excellent shots. The trailers already have more good examplesthan TFA. Or all the prequels combined
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:He is irrelevant now. Yes this is what I said. We still have 2 movies to find out bro The Emperor was not relevant in 4 or 5 either.
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It would be cool if Rey was a former knight of ren herself but left before kylo came so he didn't know her but she knew everything he did. So, the end was her showing her hand and it would open up a bunch of possibilities for who she is and what it meant for her to meet luke. But they showed her abandoned as a child, so she just a force prodigy *space angel* and her character is defined by who her parents are.
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Kly posted:i like the part when the first order attacks the bar and the xwings fly in and poe blasts a bunch of tie fighters and storm troopers. then finn says something stupid but it was a cool scene Strawman plus clutching pearls i guess
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Phi230 posted:Yes this is what I said. I'm confused by this, because I remembered you also said this: Phi230 posted:Let me ask: So if Snoke is irrelevant now, how would finding out more about him later on retroactively change your opinion of TFA? I thought you said that's impossible? Is it because Disney has told you that they have all of this planned out in advance?
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MonsieurChoc posted:That's only one tiny part of a movie. Never said visuals aren't important. Themes, characterization, and plot being delivered through visuals is extremely my poo poo. I just don't see it happening at all in the prequels, other than the odd scene in RotS.
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