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Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




Fojar38 posted:

The advantage of the American roach is that they generally don't infest buildings and prefer the outdoors

German roaches are the real indoor terrors (although they eat bedbugs)

My house had a German roach infestation when I first moved in. I couldn't unpack my kitchen stuff for over a month. gently caress those things.

American roaches are tolerable. They're big and they'll fly at you, but that's not so bad.

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
Why do people keep proposing this scenario where Utah goes 3rd party and no one gets 270? It could happen, but it's unlikely and seems odd to harp on it.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

BUG JUG posted:

I am just here to say the superior work on this is American Slavery, American Freedom by Edmund Morgan and Parent just ripped Morgan off. Also it was a Dutch Man of War that brought the first slaves to Virginia -- who had been captured by the Dutch (who were pirates, working in conjunction with an English pirate ship) off of a Portuguese ship the San Juan Bautista -- in 1619.

I haven't read Morgan's book, I'll have to try it. I just know that Parent's is the one we sell in the gift shop and it always gets rave reviews!

And oh I know; there's actually a project pending this spring to do an archaeological excavation of a home known to belong to the purchaser of one of those 1619 slaves, a young West African lady by the (Christian) name of Angela. Nobody's promising it'll turn anything up relating to her, but we know very little from the material evidence about that first wave of West African slaves that the very possibility is exciting! What's interesting is we aren't actually certain if the first lot of them were actually thought of as "slaves" per se or were just lumped into the same category as indentured servants. The documentary evidence is a little fuzzy, but the legislative factors that produced what we would recognize as racial chattel slavery hadn't yet surfaced, for certain.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
Thanks to this thread for reminding me that I need to get a copy of the Sting of the Wild for somebody as a gag Christmas gift.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Blue Footed Booby posted:

tangling genitals.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Covok posted:

Why do people keep proposing this scenario where Utah goes 3rd party and no one gets 270? It could happen, but it's unlikely and seems odd to harp on it.

It's silly and people like sillyness.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fuuuck wheel bugs

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Fitzy Fitz posted:

American roaches are tolerable. They're big and they'll fly at you, but that's not so bad.

Are you loving kidding me, here?

:gonk: :gonk: :gonk:

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

Fojar38 posted:

The advantage of the American roach is that they generally don't infest buildings and prefer the outdoors

German roaches are the real indoor terrors (although they eat bedbugs)
In the "lesser of two evils" game, I think German roaches win in that case.

Very few creatures are worse (or harder to get rid of) than bedbugs.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Trilas posted:

Minnesotan chiming in to say that the only thing hellscape winters do for us is save us from dealing with spiders outdoors during those months.

I also live in a place that gets hellscape winters and even indoor pests become noticeably less active from November to March but maybe it's just my building

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Dexo posted:

No I mean why would you put your washing machines and poo poo outside.

Los Angeles landlords have to abide by some of the most pro-renter laws in the country. Consequently they are world-class innovators in the field of loving with tenants.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Potato Salad posted:

If you need on-prem: Windows Server 2008r2 at absolute oldest, Windows Server 2012r2 if you're actually good. Exchange 2013. Use multifactor authentication. Use mobile device management controls.

Alternately, reach out to a good IT consulting firm *cough* There are benefits to having your own desktop support guys but more complex systems handled by pros who do nothing but this poo poo all day, provided they aren't hacks.

What Trump's email resembles is a broom closet nobody has touched in 15 years, seriously, no troll.

Alternately, use Office365 email and be done with on-premises email and concerns about infrastructure and maintenance forever (insert insane laughter here)

Mind you, this is the guy who says he will take national IT seriously. I see his type on a monthly basis: big-talking CEO says he's serious about security until he sees the bill.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Jake Tapper just talked about James O'Keefe's new tapes and while he did mention at the beginning that he was discounted, the bit was not just Jake saying "this guy is a turbo fucker and if he made a video where the sky was blue I'd seriously consider that it was orange instead". I was disappointed.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

My house has more house centipedes than spiders, for some reason.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Trilas posted:

Minnesotan chiming in to say that the only thing hellscape winters do for us is save us from dealing with spiders outdoors during those months.

I just am happy that we don't have to deal with any that can kill you.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




WampaLord posted:

Are you loving kidding me, here?

:gonk: :gonk: :gonk:

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night to one crawling on me. I fling him across the room and go back to sleep. If it happens to my girlfriend, she leaps out of bed, turns on all the lamps, and throws the sheets across the room.

Stupid roaches. I just wanna sleep.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Fangz posted:

It's silly and people like sillyness.

I'm open to Egg McMuffin with Cheese taking Utah, I actually welcome it, but assuming this means Clinton doesn't get 270 is just so perplexing when you consider she was never going to win it.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Blue Footed Booby posted:

It may be one of those regional things, like how the two coasts use "daddy long-legs" to refer to completely different animals.

Here is what the name water bugs refers to in Virginia:

They're "true bugs." That means their wings form a distinctive triangle shape on their back, and that they have hollow, sword-like mouthparts used to suck juices out of things. Unlike stink bugs and aphids, water bugs are carnivores. I'm told their bite is extremely painful. Sleep poop tight, don't let the water bugs bite your tangling genitals.

Those are the ones! They also like to hang out in the shower, and are extra super fun to encounter when you're naked and half-asleep :v:

Tbh, we should probably just let nature retake everything south of the Mason-Dixon line. People from out of town really don't get how horrifyingly buggy things get here in the summer

OmanyteJackson
Mar 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
I don't understand the hate spiders get in a world with mosquitoes, basicly vampiric rats with wings. seriously spiders are cool, they kill pests, super chill. they're like cats. 8 legged cats.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Fitzy Fitz posted:

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night to one crawling on me. I fling him across the room and go back to sleep. If it happens to my girlfriend, she leaps out of bed, turns on all the lamps, and throws the sheets across the room.

Stupid roaches. I just wanna sleep.

please clean your room

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Potato Salad posted:

If you need on-prem: Windows Server 2008r2 at absolute oldest, Windows Server 2012r2 if you're actually good. Exchange 2013. Use multifactor authentication. Use mobile device management controls.

Alternately, reach out to a good IT consulting firm *cough* There are benefits to having your own desktop support guys but more complex systems handled by pros who do nothing but this poo poo all day, provided they aren't hacks.

What Trump's email resembles is a broom closet nobody has touched in 15 years, seriously, no troll.

Alternately, use Office365 email and be done with on-premises email and concerns about infrastructure and maintenance forever (insert insane laughter here)

yep. this.

and i wasn't kidding about 2003 being the server equivalent of windows xp.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet


You mean yours don't??

Doctor Butts posted:

My house has more house centipedes than spiders, for some reason.

Possibly due to type of prey. Some things like silverfish don't get caught in webs all that often.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Doctor Butts posted:

My house has more house centipedes than spiders, for some reason.

House centipedes loving own and you should leave them alone when you can, they kill roaches, bedbugs, flies, you name it

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Potato Salad posted:

Mind you, this is the guy who says he will take national IT seriously. I see his type on a monthly basis: big-talking CEO says he's serious about security until he sees the bill.

The big thing I noticed after the Sony hack when all the entertainment industry IT policies clamped down in response was how impossible getting CEOs to comply with security measures seems to be. I worked at a place that had those little 2-factor code generating keychains for doing stuff on the company websites and the execs would just hand those off to their assistants and do a screenshare once they were logged in.

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

Instant Sunrise posted:

It's where most black people in the south live.

because that was where most of the plantations were prior to the civil war.

because that was there the best quality soil for planting and growing was.

because that area was a shallow coastline during the cretaceous period and had a ton of marine plankton in those seas at the time.

It's easily identifiable in almost any map that breaks data up by county, because race is so heavily correlated with pretty much every demographic data set, from average income to education to political leanings. For this reason it is often called out as ancientshoreline.jpg.

Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




boner confessor posted:

please clean your room

It's clean. The house is old and in the woods. We spread borax, spray, and put out traps. There's not a lot you can do.

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

Continuing spiderchat, the Portia jumping spiders are pretty neat. Spiders that use trial and error, stalk and surprise their prey with hour long pre-planned attack routes, hunt targets twice their size and learn how to hunt new targets all using brains the size of the head of a pin? Did I mention they're jumping spiders?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portia_(spider)

quote:

Portia often hunt in ways that seem intelligent.[11] All members of Portia have instinctive hunting tactics for their most common prey, but can improvise by trial and error against unfamiliar prey or in unfamiliar situations, and then remember the new approach.[8]

Portia species can make detours to find the best attack angle against dangerous prey, even when the best detour takes a Portia out of visual contact with the prey,[8] and sometimes the planned route leads to abseiling down a silk thread and biting the prey from behind. Such detours may take up to an hour,[13] and a Portia usually picks the best route even if it needs to walk past an incorrect route.[14]:422 If a Portia makes a mistake while hunting another spider, it may itself be killed.[13]

Portia uses trial-and-error to successfully solve a confinement problem (i.e. how to escape from an island surrounded by water) both when correct choices are rewarded and when incorrect choices are punished.[15]

Nonetheless, they seem to be relatively slow "thinkers", as is to be expected since they solve tactical problems by using brains vastly smaller than those of mammalian predators.[11] Portia has a brain significantly smaller than the size of the head of a pin,[16] and it has only about 600,000 neurons,[17] hundreds of thousands of times fewer than the human brain.

quote:

Their favorite prey appears to be web-building spiders between 10% and 200% of their own size. Portia look like leaf detritus caught in a web, and this is often enough to fool web-building spiders, which have poor eyesight.[11]

Laboratory studies show that Portia learns very quickly how to overcome web-building spiders that neither it nor its ancestors would have met in the wild. Portia's accurate visual recognition of potential prey is an important part of its hunting tactics. For example, in one part of the Philippines, local Portia spiders attack from the rear against the very dangerous spitting spiders, which themselves hunt jumping spiders. This appears to be an instinctive behavior, as laboratory-reared Portia of this species do this the first time they encounter a spitting spider. On the other hand, they will use a head-on approach against spitting spiders that are carrying eggs. However, experiments that pitted Portia against "convincing" artificial spiders with arbitrary but consistent behavior patterns showed that Portia's instinctive tactics are only starting points for a trial-and-error approach from which these spiders learn very quickly.[18]

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong but aside from the moderator tomorrow's debate has zero affiliation with Fox News right?

True, but he literally accused Bill Clinton of doing 9/11 so don't have high hopes.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Blue Footed Booby posted:

You mean yours don't??

I guess they tangle with the genitals of others?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Fitzy Fitz posted:

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night to one crawling on me. I fling him across the room and go back to sleep. If it happens to my girlfriend, she leaps out of bed, turns on all the lamps, and throws the sheets across the room.

Stupid roaches. I just wanna sleep.

Well, I am definitely not sleeping tonight, thanks.

Also, were I your girlfriend, I would never stay at your place again once that had happened.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Doctor Butts posted:

My house has more house centipedes than spiders, for some reason.

House centipedes are attracted to sin

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

A Winner is Jew posted:

True, but he literally accused Bill Clinton of doing 9/11 so don't have high hopes.

Yeah but when he did Bill took him to the loving woodshed. I give even odds he's scared of trying that on Clintons again versus him wanting revenge.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Fitzy Fitz posted:

Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night to one crawling on me. I fling him across the room and go back to sleep. If it happens to my girlfriend, she leaps out of bed, turns on all the lamps, and throws the sheets across the room.

Stupid roaches. I just wanna sleep.

Burn your home down and just start walking until you're so far away you can't remember your old life and start again

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008
Some spiders hunt and eat birds

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Night10194 posted:

Yeah but when he did Bill took him to the loving woodshed. I give even odds he's scared of trying that on Clintons again versus him wanting revenge.

For better and worse, Hillary isn't Bill and She'll have to deal with both Wallace and Trump.

Again, low expectations.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Fojar38 posted:

House centipedes loving own and you should leave them alone when you can, they kill roaches, bedbugs, flies, you name it

I do for the most part. Wish I could have trapped/released them towards the ant infestation we had in spring :(

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Barudak posted:

Burn your home down and just start walking until you're so far away you can't remember your old life and start again

Well the thing is after the roach is inside the person suit you can't ever really tell. Just like all those people you've been shaking hands with.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

WampaLord posted:

Well, I am definitely not sleeping tonight, thanks.

If that idea freaks you out, don't ever move into a house in a new addition.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Covok posted:

Why do people keep proposing this scenario where Utah goes 3rd party and no one gets 270? It could happen, but it's unlikely and seems odd to harp on it.

Because people see it as a miraculous escape plan in the 11th hour. I'm actually surprised, I assumed I would be seeing a lot more from the super vocal "douche and turd sandwich" crowd, but I haven't seen that much after the original 538 post.

But yeah a scenario where Trump: 1) is weak enough to lose super republican Utah but 2) strong enough to fight Hillary to a standstill in electoral votes and yet 3) still weak enough to do such damage to the Republican down ticket races that they decided to back stab him to spare a rout in 2018 - seems laughably far fetched to me. Like not impossible but improbable to the point that you might as well wish for both candidates to drop dead before the race.

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davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

Dexo posted:

No I mean why would you put your washing machines and poo poo outside.

Because there's no Winter or rain so outside is just like a slightly hotter version of inside.

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