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Half a year to a year of mandatory community service wouldn't be a bad idea.
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2 years of working in the food service industry should be mandatory upon leaving high school. It's a win win, keeps wages low for the pro-business side, and teaches people basic human decency towards people who handle your loving food for the people-with-a-soul side.
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Oct 18, 2016 23:57
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I actually saw the video on YouTube trending and all the comments were about how Clinton "owns" google and YouTube so it wouldn't be trending. This whole everything is rigged bullshit is really sad and pathetic. White conservatives really hate being marginalized. Conspiracy theorists always conspiracy theorize why they aren't getting the attention they feel they are entitled to.
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Oct 19, 2016 00:08
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PJOmega posted:2 years of working in the food service industry should be mandatory upon leaving high school. It's a win win, keeps wages low for the pro-business side, and teaches people basic human decency towards people who handle your loving food for the people-with-a-soul side. Makes it hard to propose changes though since people have a tendency to say "I lived through [terrible thing], they can too".
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Oct 19, 2016 00:10
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Everyone should have to go through boot camp when you turn 18 but boot camp should be stuff like "here's how to budget" and "maybe don't put your dick on the internet."
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Oct 19, 2016 00:12
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Yeah I'm sure a class of people who spent decades dodging military service won't be able to do the same for menial service
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Oct 19, 2016 00:21
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The entirety of it is that they're covering things that make the right look bad and that's bias. There's also the new talking point/meme "The Election is Rigged" and I know in my heart it's going to resonate and have legs. I know now why Hunter S. Thompson shot himself after John Kerry lost to Bush. It's incredibly depressing to see what's going on, the legitimization of a generation of RWM talking points and the effect it's had on the national discourse and the nation's mood.
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Oct 19, 2016 00:36
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Race Realists posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/mtracey/status/787811906593689601 But anyone who burns down an abortion clinic is just a lone nutjob.
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Oct 19, 2016 00:46
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BiggerBoat posted:There's also the new talking point/meme "The Election is Rigged" and I know in my heart it's going to resonate and have legs. I know now why Hunter S. Thompson shot himself after John Kerry lost to Bush. Eh, it's obliterating the GOP as they cast out anybody that isn't in total 100% lockstep with the crazy while multiple brands of crazy compete to see who is the Prime Crazy. They're tearing themselves apart. Trump is the logical end result of it all and they got him but now they're realizing that it was a monkey's paw wish from the get go. They're trying to put the drat genie back in the bottle, as it were; they've unleashed a monster they can't control and are now trying to blame everybody else.
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Oct 19, 2016 00:55
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BiggerBoat posted:There's also the new talking point/meme "The Election is Rigged" and I know in my heart it's going to resonate and have legs. I don't think it will, not anymore than it has for the past 8 years. Any investigation into allegations of election or voter fraud are going to go very, very bad for the GOP and a bunch of people know it. They'll rattle the cages for a few months past inauguration, and then marching orders will come down and Savage, Rush, etc. will just stop talking about it.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:02
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Eh, it's obliterating the GOP as they cast out anybody that isn't in total 100% lockstep with the crazy while multiple brands of crazy compete to see who is the Prime Crazy. They're tearing themselves apart. Trump is the logical end result of it all and they got him but now they're realizing that it was a monkey's paw wish from the get go. And it's loving glorious, violent incidents aside.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:34
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fishmech posted:No we did not have universal service in the military or anything from the Korean War to 1964. There was a very small amount of conscription during the time period between the Korean Armistice and 1964 when things started really picking up in the Vietnam War, and it was exceedingly easy to avoid those if you were a college student, if you got married, if you were in wide variety of different fields. I don't want a few thousand. I want everyone who just turned 19.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:35
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No one except Trump is going to be saying poo poo about the election being rigged the second the election is called for Clinton, the second he is no longer the candidate, the nominee. They are going to try to forget him immediately like some poorly considered one night stand that gave you herpes.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:44
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Crowsbeak posted:I don't want a few thousand. I want everyone who just turned 19. Ok, but they have to lay fiber in rural areas, also give them land in said areas.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:51
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Crowsbeak posted:I don't want a few thousand. I want everyone who just turned 19. That's completely stupid, but also once again, that's not what we had " in place between Korea and 1964" like you said. What we actually had then was a tiny amount of people, mostly medical and electrical specialists, drafted to fit certain service needs. There is no reason to interrupt people's schooling or whatever to have "national service" bullshit. It doesn't help anything.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:55
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Everyone should have to go through boot camp when you turn 18 but boot camp should be stuff like "here's how to budget" and "maybe don't put your dick on the internet." So, high school.
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Oct 19, 2016 01:58
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Eh, it's obliterating the GOP as they cast out anybody that isn't in total 100% lockstep with the crazy while multiple brands of crazy compete to see who is the Prime Crazy. They're tearing themselves apart. Trump is the logical end result of it all and they got him but now they're realizing that it was a monkey's paw wish from the get go. Right, but like most scared, disillusioned, powerless and basically cornered people/animals, they're not going to go extinct peacefully. This "rigged election/system" thing has legs and truly permeates their entire world view. The frightening thing is that they're not wrong. The system is gamed and rigged. Just not for the reasons they think it is and who's doing it. They're horribly misinformed and I'm not at all ashamed or hesitant to point the finger at people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and even Ted Nugent. The BELIEVE this poo poo and for years have openly advocated for a theocratic fascist society.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:01
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I actually saw the video on YouTube trending and all the comments were about how Clinton "owns" google and YouTube so it wouldn't be trending. This whole everything is rigged bullshit is really sad and pathetic. White conservatives really hate being marginalized. Maybe they should go make their own Youtube and Google.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:02
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Spacedad posted:Trumpies can't get James O'Keefe's latest round of misleading edited videos with phony claims of voter fraud or his org veritas to trend... Hey, guess who else is claiming Twitter is rigged! And doesn't understand "free speech"? If you guessed Scott Adams, you'd be right! quote:According to many of my Twitter followers, Twitter is “shadowbanning” me. If true, that means someone at Twitter has decided to suppress my free speech on the site, presumably because I have said good things about Trump’s talents for persuasion. My tweets do not align with Twitter’s political preferences as I understand them.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:04
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BiggerBoat posted:So I guess all the RWM pundits know the writing's on the wall and we're now down to "gently caress the media", Rush and Hannity especially. It's so loving disingenuous it makes me ill. I don't see this whole "in the tank for Hillary/picking on Donald" thing at all. All the poo poo they complain about not being covered is being covered plenty. I know all about Benghazi, servers, Wikileaks, Bill Clinton, etc. so I'm not sure how they can make this ridiculous claim but here we are again. You're overthinking this. RWM are all dumb as poo poo and lazy as gently caress. They're all Drudge or RNC Talking Point rip 'n read fests. They don't pay attention to anything else. They also spend a good chunk of time telling their audience not to pay attention to anything else either. It's a bubble. They also frequently rely on poorly-sourced or unsourced information, and they're very results-oriented. So they read about poo poo like this "FBI John Podesta State Department Quid Pro Quo" and assume that the media aren't covering it because it's bad for Hillary. In reality they're not covering it because it doesn't have anything to do with Hillary and it's flatly false. Right wing bubble boy talkers think Hillary is just the worst and if the American people knew what they knew then Bernie would be the candidate right now. So they assume that since she is the candidate and she is winning then there must be a big leftist conspiracy to hide all the damning information* Also, a good counterfactual to bring up is NYT partnering with that Clinton Cash idiot and story after story they ran trying to pump up e-mailghazi. *total horse poo poo ErIog fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Oct 19, 2016 02:14
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Bushiz posted:I don't think it will, not anymore than it has for the past 8 years. Any investigation into allegations of election or voter fraud are going to go very, very bad for the GOP and a bunch of people know it. They'll rattle the cages for a few months past inauguration, and then marching orders will come down and Savage, Rush, etc. will just stop talking about it. I hope you're right but I don't think so. Reputable news organizations will investigate it and report exactly jack and poo poo regarding evidence of such things but Breitbart, Trump, Drudge and everyone else I've been listening to will bang that drum hard. They're desperate, scared and convinced The Fix is In. The world is changing faster than they can deal with it and they trust absolutely ZERO sources outside of their vacuum of paranoid noise and meanness. This poo poo really permeates the national discourse and clouds people's perception of reality. It's a real thing that has planted strong roots and is one of the reasons I started this thread 4 years ago. I've personally witnessed otherwise decent, reasonable people totally and absolutely swallow this noisy bullshit whole cloth. They trust NO ONE and are afraid of EVERYTHING. Rush and his ilk constantly stoke those fires. It's absolutely astonishing. I saw the End Game and the results coming all along but continue to be amazed at the speed that it's really been able to take hold. A year ago I remember telling my friends not to worry. That there's no loving way on God's green earth that Donald Trump will get anywhere close to the Presidency or the nomination. That Jeb will run against Hillary and one or the other will win 48% - 45%. I'm mad at myself for being so naive and for missing the obvious signs and symptoms of what is nothing short of full on propaganda and advertising disguised as news.
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I hear you, and I feel you since I have family members that are lost to this poo poo as well. The thing to remember, though, is that, in their bubble, they sow the seeds of their own failure. This entire election is a grade A example. GOP has been banging the voter ID voter fraud drum for a while. Trump mentions it because he's one of these bubble people. Media scrutinize and suddenly we have blasted far and wide the fact that voter fraud doesn't loving exist. Same goes for all the Hillary/Bill scandal stuff. Any serious person who knew the sourcing on all of that poo poo would tell you there is no there there in terms of a connection to Hillary doing anything negative. Cheeto Benito pulls that poo poo out during a debate because they think it's so damning, but the media scrutinizes it and it turns out there was nothing there. The only thing I find really disheartening is that it took Donald Trump's failed candidacy for the media to have enough balls to call out classic GOP rhetoric as lies. There is not a single thing that has come out of Trump's mouth that I haven't also heard come out of the mouth of either a GOP establishment politician or a well-respected member of the Republican party.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:21
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Zwabu posted:No one except Trump is going to be saying poo poo about the election being rigged the second the election is called for Clinton, the second he is no longer the candidate, the nominee. No they won't. They're gonna run it into the loving ground, I guarantee it. It's all they'll have left to talk about. They'll be pictures and Breitbart articles about angry, mean looking black people, "investigative articles" about Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny and dead people voting for Clinton. These people honestly believe they live in a fascist country and that Democrats want to destroy it.
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Oct 19, 2016 02:22
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Star Man posted:So, high school. I learned a lot of things about dicks in high school but Not Whipping It Out was not one of them.
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:I learned a lot of things about dicks in high school but Not Whipping It Out was not one of them. it's okay. the 36th president never learned that either.
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Oct 19, 2016 03:25
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https://twitter.com/tilton_raccoon/status/788475458404818944 funny tweet i found relevant to the thread BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Oct 19, 2016 03:57
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i looked up the full set of those since I remembered those edits from way back when and it was a lot more racist, misogynist, and homophobic than i remember. or i just have a lower tolerance for that poo poo now.
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Oct 19, 2016 04:18
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BiggerBoat posted:No they won't. They're gonna run it into the loving ground, I guarantee it. It's all they'll have left to talk about. They'll be pictures and Breitbart articles about angry, mean looking black people, "investigative articles" about Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny and dead people voting for Clinton. Conservatism can only be failed and all that. Nobody on the right wing ever seems to learn from their mistakes because that would require them to admit mistakes were made to begin with.
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Dilbert Man drama just took a turn for the extra-weird.  One of my twitter pals got Scott Adams to follow him and DM him. https://twitter.com/2dAmMuslim/status/788423616002162689
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quote:RUSH: There isn't any question all of this is rigged. Even George Will, who despises the Trumpster, had to admit that Trump's right about this. And the evidence that George Will cites -- we have it coming up in the sound bites -- is these people, the Democrats, go to the end of the earth, the end of the world, to prevent voter registration rolls from being purged of dead people. The Democrats do everything they can to ensure that people who are dead or illegal immigrants or whatever are on voter registration rolls. That alone rigs the game.
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I wonder what effect convincing your base that the election is rigged for the other guy has on turnout. If the election is totally rigged for Hillary anyway, what's the point in making the effort to go cast a meaningless vote, may as well stay home and clean my guns or whatever.
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VitalSigns posted:I wonder what effect convincing your base that the election is rigged for the other guy has on turnout. Because they know even if their base "gets out the vote" they're not going to win, but a narrative that the election was rigged from the start will keep them riled up and consuming their right wing media.
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Oct 19, 2016 05:44
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VitalSigns posted:I wonder what effect convincing your base that the election is rigged for the other guy has on turnout. there have been some political scientists saying that exactly that could happen and depress turnout for trump. (this on top of a already depressed turnout from trump's lack of gotv efforts)
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It's been my pipe dream for the house to be in play, and it's gone from "lol what drugs are you on" to "slim possibility". My uneducated theory of what can happen come November 8 is that Trump voters stay home by a few percentage points overall and unscreened/unpolled voters push Clinton's numbers up by a few percentage points. Spanish speaking voters have a decent chance of being underpolled this election, and it can pay compounded interest on Trump's chaotic campaign.
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Oct 19, 2016 06:06
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I knew Rush was a lying sack of poo poo, but since when did he turn into Alex Jones?
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Jasque posted:I knew Rush was a lying sack of poo poo, but since when did he turn into Alex Jones? November 5th, 2008
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Reminder, Rush spoke at the RNC 2008/9? saying to make Obama a 1 termer. Also boner pills/ sex tourism.
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Oct 19, 2016 06:24
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kik2dagroin posted:
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Oct 19, 2016 06:29
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Xenochrist posted:Holy poo poo lol If Rush had the sort of magnifying glass he wields pointed back at himself, he'd melt into a miserable pile in microseconds.
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