fishmech posted:

That's completely stupid, but also once again, that's not what we had " in place between Korea and 1964" like you said. What we actually had then was a tiny amount of people, mostly medical and electrical specialists, drafted to fit certain service needs.

There is no reason to interrupt people's schooling or whatever to have "national service" bullshit. It doesn't help anything.

Star Man posted:

So, high school.

ZDar Fan posted:

PJOmega posted:

2 years of working in the food service industry should be mandatory upon leaving high school. It's a win win, keeps wages low for the pro-business side, and teaches people basic human decency towards people who handle your loving food for the people-with-a-soul side.

ZDar Fan posted:

Crowsbeak posted:

It forces them to have to be part of a greater whole.

ZDar Fan posted:

Phone posted:

It's been my pipe dream for the house to be in play, and it's gone from "lol what drugs are you on" to "slim possibility".

My uneducated theory of what can happen come November 8 is that Trump voters stay home by a few percentage points overall and unscreened/unpolled voters push Clinton's numbers up by a few percentage points. Spanish speaking voters have a decent chance of being underpolled this election, and it can pay compounded interest on Trump's chaotic campaign.

Dirk the Average posted:

That's, uh, that's not something anyone should be bragging about. Holy poo poo, how can he be this unaware?

ErIog posted:

He's not unaware. He's a misogynist. I bet he thinks, "Women don't read my stuff because they can't handle the sick truth bombs I deliver because they're misandrists."

He will never, unless he somehow manages to magically become woke as all gently caress, take any kind of responsibility for any of it.

Goatman Sacks posted:

Fox and Friends was in full panic mode and basically reading Breitbart for their entire show today, it's hilarious

quote:

Here’s a little thought experiment for you:

If a friend said he could see a pink elephant in the room, standing right in front of you, but you don’t see it, which one of you is hallucinating?

Answer: The one who sees the pink elephant is hallucinating.

Let’s try another one.

If a friend tells you that you were both abducted by aliens last night but for some reason only he remembers it, which one of you hallucinated?

Answer: The one who saw the aliens is hallucinating.

Now let’s add some participants and try another one.

If a crowd of people are pointing to a stain on the wall, and telling you it is talking to them, with a message from God, and you don’t see anything but a stain, who is hallucinating? Is it the majority who see the stain talking or the one person who does not?

Answer: The people who see the stain talking are experiencing a group hallucination, which is more common than you think.

In nearly every scenario you can imagine, the person experiencing an unlikely addition to their reality is the one hallucinating. If all observers see the same addition to their reality, it might be real. But if even one participant can’t see the phenomenon – no matter how many can – it is almost certainly not real.

Here I pause to remind new readers of this blog that I’m a trained hypnotist and a student of persuasion in all its forms. I’ve spent a lifetime trying to learn the tricks for discerning illusion from reality. And I’m here to tell you that if you are afraid that Donald Trump is a racist/sexist clown with a dangerous temperament, you have been brainwashed by the best group of brainwashers in the business right now: Team Clinton. They have cognitive psychologists such as Godzilla advising them. Allegedly.

I remind you that intelligence is not a defense against persuasion. No matter how smart you are, good persuaders can still make you see a pink elephant in a room where there is none (figuratively speaking). And Clinton’s team of persuaders has caused half of the country to see Trump as a racist/sexist Hitler with a dangerous temperament. That’s a pink elephant.

As a public service (and I mean that literally) I have been trying to unhypnotize the country on this matter for the past year. I don’t do this because I prefer Trump’s policies or because I know who would do the best job as president. I do it because our system doesn’t work if you think there is a pink elephant in the room and there is not. That isn’t real choice. That is an illusion of choice.

Trump represents what is likely to be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to bring real change to a government that is bloated and self-serving. Reasonable people can disagree on policies and priorities. But Trump is the bigger agent for change, if that’s what you think the country needs. I want voters to see that choice for what it is.

And it isn’t a pink elephant.

If you are wondering why a socially liberal and well-educated cartoonist such as myself is not afraid of Trump, it’s because I don’t see the pink elephant. To me, all anti-Trumpers are experiencing a shared illusion.

Pause here.

Before you scoff at mass, shared illusions as being unlikely, keep in mind that everyone with a different religion than yours is experiencing exactly that. Mass shared illusions are our most common experience.

Back to my point. As a trained persuader, I can see the “Trump is Hitler” illusion for what it is. Where you might see a mountain of credible evidence to support your illusion, I see nothing but confirmation bias on your part. I have detailed that confirmation bias in other posts.

Remember my rule from above. If you see something unlikely – such as a new Hitler rising in the midst of America – and I see nothing remotely like that – I’m almost certainly right and you’re almost certainly having the illusion. I say that because the person who sees the unlikely addition to reality is the one experiencing the illusion nearly every time. Trump as Hitler-in-America is an addition to reality that only some can see. It is a pink elephant. It is a classic hallucination.

I’m not trying to say I’m smarter than anyone else. I just don’t see the pink elephant. Nor do perhaps 40% of the country who prefer Trump as president. And when that many people don’t see a pink elephant in a room, you can be sure it isn’t there, no matter how many do see it.

If you are a Clinton supporters, you might think Trump supporters see the same pink elephant that you do, and you rationalize that by saying Trump supporters prefer the pink elephant because they want it to stomp all over minorities.

Some Trump supporters are racists. That’s a fact. Racists are in every group. Perhaps they see the pink elephant too. If so, they probably do want that elephant to stomp all over minorities. But in this case, the racists are sharing the same illusion as Clinton supporters, seeing the same pink elephant. The majority of Trump supporters – as far as I can tell – simply don’t see any pink elephant at all. They just want change.

I don’t believe in Santa Claus.

I don’t believe in ghosts.

I don’t believe in a traditional god.

I don’t believe in luck.

And I don’t see Donald Trump as dangerous.

In my elephant-free view of the world, Trump is a guy who uses provocative language (as New Yorkers do) while succeeding across several different fields. And he knows risk-management. You can see that in everything he does.

If you are an anti-Trumper, you might reject my point of view as manipulative or naive. I can’t change your mind with a blog post. But you can change your own mind. Just ask others if they see the addition to reality that you see. If others don’t see the pink elephant in the room, and you do, the elephant isn’t there.

Look for that pattern. Once you see it, you’re awake.

Then vote for whoever has the policies you like.

Dr. Killjoy posted:

O'Keefe's latest video has got about a million and a half views on youtube so despite claims of Big Internet Suppression it's being blasted into the trending videos section. It's a bit too big to just shrug off at this point so hopefully there'll be an appropriate debunking.

Dr. Killjoy posted:

hopefully

Dr. Killjoy posted:

Big Internet Suppression

Dr. Killjoy posted:

O'Keefe's latest video

Dr. Killjoy posted:

'll be

Dr. Killjoy posted:

blasted

Twelve by Pies posted:

Today on the Scott Adams show, if you think Trump is racist or sexist, you're hallucinating! Allow the master hypnotist to awake you from your trance.


A group of people stare at an object, watching it change from green to red. "This thing is changing colors!" one person says. A colorblind Scott Adams walks by and says "Hmph, that thing isn't changing color, they're all hallucinating! What a bunch of ignorant rubes!"

Also lol at his claim that he doesn't prefer Trump's policies and then goes on to say how Trump is so great as he has been for the past year or so.

codenameFANGIO posted:

For someone who studies persuasion in all forms Scott Adams has consistently failed to convince me of anything except that his brain is damaged.

Zanzibar Ham posted:

His comic is bad too.

(dunno if it always was, but it sure is now)

Radish posted:

I dunno how bad Chickweed Lane is but after Dilbert endorsed the idea of vacations being for losers that don't work hard enough this year that's gotta be pretty bad.

Zanzibar Ham posted:

His comic is bad too.

(dunno if it always was, but it sure is now)

Chilichimp posted:

That is the lovely corporate perception, though, and Dilbert has always been about mocking corporate thinking.

Chilichimp posted:

That is the lovely corporate perception, though, and Dilbert has always been about mocking corporate thinking.

Nucleic Acids posted:

This sees to have accelerated the wealthier Scottbert has gotten.

Radish posted:

Yeah but it USED to be the rear end in a top hat boss asking Dilbert to do poo poo like that while he quietly suffers then bitches to Dogbert or something. NOW it's Dilbert saying that to the idiot vacation-haver while being smug about it.

Levantine posted:

Jesus Christ - who is that comic even for?

Radish posted:

Yeah but it USED to be the rear end in a top hat boss asking Dilbert to do poo poo like that while he quietly suffers then bitches to Dogbert or something. NOW it's Dilbert saying that to the idiot vacation-haver while being smug about it.

Levantine posted:

Jesus Christ - who is that comic even for?

BarbarianElephant posted:

5% wow, that's bad, considering that his comic has pretty broad appeal.

moths posted:

I'd say his problem is in not appealing to broads, pretty or otherwise.

moths posted:

I'd say his problem is in not appealing to broads, pretty or otherwise.