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Coolguye posted:this is a video game Actually this is an internet forum  
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The idea I guess is that You're not starting the meth from scratch and you're trying to balance out all the ingredients instead of starting with a clean slate for each individual bag. So what's the rifle in the Wick pack? I'm honestly not feeling the UMP or that pistol too hard. Plan Z fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Is there even a decent "fat guy with powerful shotgun" build anymore? I miss having ICTV, drill skills, and a shotgun that belched out an acre of copdeath at a time. From the looks of it that's probably a no.
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Oct 19, 2016 14:38
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shut up blegum posted:I was more talking about how he apparently can't read a simple recipe from the internet without stumbling and messing up the ingredients etc. For a guy who can convince cops to set a heister who has just killed ~100 cops free, with his weapons, this seems a bit weird. The second part is just that Payday-verse cops are really really stupid. The Safehouse Raid ends with Bain convincing the DC police department that ~600-800 cops went to a routine drug raid, found nothing and all retired to Bermuda immediately afterwards, no they're totally not dead.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:03
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FAUXTON posted:Is there even a decent "fat guy with powerful shotgun" build anymore? I miss having ICTV, drill skills, and a shotgun that belched out an acre of copdeath at a time. From the looks of it that's probably a no. Yes. It requires Frenzy/Berserker and a good deal of point optimization but it can be done. I'd post mine if I wasn't phoneposting from work.
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Oct 19, 2016 15:13
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day 2 up, we got throwing knives boyyyyyyyyyys
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Oct 19, 2016 17:12
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So uh, these weapons kind of suck. I think?
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Oct 19, 2016 17:27
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LuciferMorningstar posted:So uh, these weapons kind of suck. I think? The sniper rifle is the most concealable yet, and the SMG is a more concealable alternative to the Krinkov. The pistol unfortunately falls into the very crowded mid-damage bracket next to the LEO and Chimano Custom so it's not likely to turn heads. The akimbo version might be nice but it's hard to imagine something usurping the Chimano Custom. Throwing knives coming in at 6/pack leads me to believe they sit between shuriken and javelins in terms of damage, I don't know who cares though because going either max damage or poison animations seems like the smart choice. Of course they're all likely suboptimal for 1D 
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Oct 19, 2016 17:40
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Dr Cheeto posted:The sniper rifle is the most concealable yet, and the SMG is a more concealable alternative to the Krinkov. The pistol unfortunately falls into the very crowded mid-damage bracket next to the LEO and Chimano Custom so it's not likely to turn heads. Throwing knives coming in at 6/pack leads me to believe they sit between shuriken and javelins in terms of damage, that doesn't seem like a bad place to be. Where do the throwing axes lie?
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Oct 19, 2016 17:41
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spit on my clit posted:Where do the throwing axes lie? They do the same damage as javelins (1100). You can toss them out quicker but they don't fly as far. Dr Cheeto fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Oct 19, 2016 17:43
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LuciferMorningstar posted:So uh, these weapons kind of suck. I think? Don't know about the Contractor Pistol. Looks OK? You can Akimbo it so thats nice. edit: seems like a lot of the SMGs have similar stats so I rescind my previous statement. But at least players have the UMP finally. TopHatGenius fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Oct 19, 2016 |
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Dr Cheeto posted:Of course they're all likely suboptimal for 1D This is mostly what I'm getting at. I don't look at any of these weapons and think "man, that'd be good for DW/OD." The sniper might make for a good low-conceal sharpshooter setup. Well, maybe not good.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:This is mostly what I'm getting at. I don't look at any of these weapons and think "man, that'd be good for DW/OD." Eh, they may be trying to avoid the power creep issues that resulted after the original DW update - Thanatos, GL40, etc. all introduced immediately after and being all but required for most loud DW heists. IIRC there were a lot of complaints about the new game mode being almost impossible without additional paid DLC. This is a way of avoiding a repeat of that scenario, with the result being a bunch of largely bland weapons that don't do anything new or unique.
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Oct 19, 2016 18:11
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The dodge sniper gimmick build is gonna be the new meta, just you wait and see.  Also, we still haven't seen the most important part of this DLC: masks and mask materials. Hoping for something that looks good on War Face.
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Oct 19, 2016 18:16
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Dr Cheeto posted:The dodge sniper gimmick build is gonna be the new meta, just you wait and see. Minigun dodge..might have to disappear after this pack
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Oct 19, 2016 18:32
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LuciferMorningstar posted:So uh, these weapons kind of suck. I think? They all suck after the balance update.
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Malek posted:They all suck after the balance update. Yes, literally all weapons in the game suck. 
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Oct 19, 2016 18:39
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whoosh when is goat simulator 2? john wick weapon pack is fine n' poo poo but we really need a sequel to the G O T mayhem
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Oct 19, 2016 18:50
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Dr Cheeto posted:They do the same damage as javelins (1100). You can toss them out quicker but they don't fly as far. javelins were boosted to 7500 (wtf) and axes were not in the rebalance. I wish axes were also at 7500 so they'd be something to consider on DW, but neither is your best choice on 1D so whatever.
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Oct 19, 2016 18:59
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correction dodge/crit snipers and javelins
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Psion posted:javelins were boosted to 7500 (wtf) and axes were not in the rebalance. I wish axes were also at 7500 so they'd be something to consider on DW, but neither is your best choice on 1D so whatever. Where are shuriken and cards at now? Seemed like cards were still at 40 last I checked.
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Oct 19, 2016 19:17
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Play Hydra mutator with max split on a low difficulty. You won't regret it.
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Ada posted:Play Hydra mutator with max split on a low difficulty. You won't regret it. Ooh, that sounds like a good time
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Oct 20, 2016 03:51
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Dr Cheeto posted:Where are shuriken and cards at now? Seemed like cards were still at 40 last I checked. I dunno, I only use those on stealth where they're OHKs on unalerted enemies anyway.
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Oct 20, 2016 04:20
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Do you need to do the Safehouse Raid on OD to get the mask? Doesn't look like there's a separate achievement for that job.
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Oct 20, 2016 04:26
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When's the Evil Dead level so I can take a loving Chainsaw melee that I have to rev up and conserve for ammo? I don't care if you literally rip off DOOM 2016 and make them explode into ammo drops.
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Oct 20, 2016 04:27
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Lynx posted:Do you need to do the Safehouse Raid on OD to get the mask? Doesn't look like there's a separate achievement for that job. Nope. Safehouse Raid has nothing tied to it except the one trophy you get for finishing it.
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Oct 20, 2016 04:39
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Probably stupid, but in some respects I wish they would normalized values across all weapons within their types so that people can use the ones they enjoy aesthetically without being locked out of higher difficulties.
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Oct 20, 2016 04:42
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Lynx posted:Do you need to do the Safehouse Raid on OD to get the mask? Doesn't look like there's a separate achievement for that job. goat heist, on the other hand 
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Crabtree posted:When's the Evil Dead level so I can take a loving Chainsaw melee that I have to rev up and conserve for ammo? I don't care if you literally rip off DOOM 2016 and make them explode into ammo drops. I have suggested this as an alternative to the Saw so many drat times, like come on already. Wilko, make this a reality!
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spit on my clit posted:Ooh, that sounds like a good time ok there will be a video tomorrow on why this was a good idea gone wrong
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Hobold posted:Probably stupid, but in some respects I wish they would normalized values across all weapons within their types so that people can use the ones they enjoy aesthetically without being locked out of higher difficulties. Then it's all about ~~animations~~ like melee and that is actually way worse
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Oct 20, 2016 05:17
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holy gently caress what did they do to melee weapons? I went from being able to two shot a tan with the katana to hitting him seven times before he died. A blue cop took five strikes on overkill, i've never had a problem with this even without pumping iron or berserker + frenzy
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Oct 20, 2016 05:39
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Hobold posted:Probably stupid, but in some respects I wish they would normalized values across all weapons within their types so that people can use the ones they enjoy aesthetically without being locked out of higher difficulties. I agree fully.
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Oct 20, 2016 06:22
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spit on my clit posted:holy gently caress what did they do to melee weapons? Cop health is multiple times higher than it used to be. Melee damage hasn't been adjusted upward, and melee weapons don't benefit from headshot multipliers. RIP melee. It's just another example of how poorly-conceived Jules's design is.
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watho posted:I agree fully. And yeah, I agree with this too, more or less. All weapons in a category should be similarly damaging. There are other ways to differentiate weapons that don't obviously make some weapons better than others, like rate of fire and recoil pattern.
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Oct 20, 2016 06:34
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spit on my clit posted:holy gently caress what did they do to melee weapons? Base health has been increased for all cops, so you really need those headshots now. Too bad melee barely has that huh.
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Oct 20, 2016 07:04
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Unsurprisingly, melee still works...if you have a bunch of damage bonuses stacked together. I can still ice pick fools fine as long as I have Blood Thirst, Pumping Iron (which did specifically get buffed), and Frenzerker going. Switching to a build that isn't using all of those makes the katana feel anemic and awful. Maybe I'm also just too used to the ice pick's animations now but the range feels shorter than it should be. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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Oct 20, 2016 07:17
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Which mods are the stable ones these days? I know hoxhud is a shitheap, but I want to make sure my game isn't gonna crash as soon as someone fires a bullet once I finally dip my toes in Mayhem
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Pocohud. http://download.paydaymods.com/download/latest/pocohud3 Install BLT from here as you will need this for other mods. https://paydaymods.com/download/ Go here to add the new stat trackers that poco currently doesn't handle right now. http://paydaymods.com/mods/287/additionalpocohudtrackers If you want to make your LMGs more useful get the LMG steel sights.
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