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For some reason people are especially bloody-minded when it comes to injuries inflicted by cars, a lot more likely to sympathize/fantasize about such violence and unlikely to give a poo poo about the victims. I've noticed this in several countries. I'm really not sure what to attribute it to.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 17:24 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 07:51 |
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Depending on the context, I think people can look at a car vs mob thing as self-defense, because a big angry mob surrounding your car is a scary thing, and lord knows there's stories out there where people are pulled from their cars and beaten to death if you look. People celebrating cars running over people are simply assholes though.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 18:02 |
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:For some reason people are especially bloody-minded when it comes to injuries inflicted by cars, a lot more likely to sympathize/fantasize about such violence and unlikely to give a poo poo about the victims. I've noticed this in several countries. I'm really not sure what to attribute it to. Same reason the DPRK uses anti-aircraft guns to execute people. No kill like overkill.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 18:10 |
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Wizchine posted:Depending on the context, I think people can look at a car vs mob thing as self-defense, because a big angry mob surrounding your car is a scary thing, and lord knows there's stories out there where people are pulled from their cars and beaten to death if you look. That's pretty much exactly the defense that the police are mounting. quote:MANILA - The Philippine National Police (PNP) said they did not intend to run over militants rallying in front of the US Embassy, adding that they were merely trying to remove the vehicle from the area.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 19:01 |
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It is spreading... I have a Canadian acquaintance posting pro Dutertes memes on Facebook. He is not Filipino, and most certainly would be getting fitted for his cardboard sign if he was there.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 19:24 |
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They're gonna have their work spinning this cut out for them, because videos of the event aren't leaving a lot to the imagination.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 19:30 |
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toasterwarrior posted:They're gonna have their work spinning this cut out for them, because videos of the event aren't leaving a lot to the imagination.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 20:50 |
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That's not actually an entirely poo poo statement. While it frames the crowd as in the wrong, it also pretty clearly states that squashing people was bad and (allegedly) an unintended side effect. Could be a lot worse.
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# ? Oct 19, 2016 21:11 |
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‘I Am Chinese’: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s Awkward Charm Offensive in Chinaquote:Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte doesn’t normally do hats. That said, he has cap firmly in hand during his first official visit to China, where the 71-year-old is engaging in a none-too-subtle attempt to cadge economic concessions from the Asian superpower. Duterte reveals being denied a US visa in the past quote:BEIJING - President Rodrigo Duterte said he was once denied of a United States visa when he planned to visit a girlfriend in college. Duterte says 'goodbye' to US ties in Beijing quote:BEIJING, China - President Rodrigo Duterte said it was "time to say goodbye" to the US during a visit to China on Wednesday, as the combative leader reconfigures his country's diplomatic alliances.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 03:01 |
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how much in the shitter is Philippines's international trade and economy now
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 03:11 |
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The Saddest Rhino posted:how much in the shitter is Philippines's international trade and economy now Not as much as its going to be.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 03:15 |
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I'm confused why pinoys aren't out on the streets baying for his blood. He even secretly took Bongbong and Imes Marcos with him to China and said in a speech he hoped/expected Marcos to become his vice president.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 04:47 |
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chird posted:I'm confused why pinoys aren't out on the streets baying for his blood. He even secretly took Bongbong and Imes Marcos with him to China and said in a speech he hoped/expected Marcos to become his vice president. all the drug users are dead so it's okay, the end justifies the means! - Pinoy comment written on any news about Duterte
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 05:27 |
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We have never been at war with Eastasiaquote:BEIJING—Visiting Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte had praise for China on Wednesday, setting aside a maritime dispute as the combative leader reconfigures his country's diplomatic alliances.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 08:16 |
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Hey, I've been denied a US Visa twice, it sucks.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 08:36 |
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PH agrees to bilateral talks on maritime row, gets $9B in creditquote:BEIJING—Beijing scored a major diplomatic coup on Wednesday after Chinese President Xi Jinping and President Rodrigo Duterte agreed to enter into bilateral negotiations to resolve its maritime dispute—a 180-degree turn from the Philippines’ stance of engaging only in multilateral talks over overlapping territorial claims in the West Philippine Sea. Duterte announces military, economic split from U.S. quote:BEIJING, China – In front of Chinese businessmen and government officials, President Rodrigo Duterte announced his “separation” from the United States both in military and economic aspects. gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Oct 20, 2016 |
# ? Oct 20, 2016 12:14 |
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*scratch head* this'alls happened very fast. 'Their larynx is not adjusted to civility' is innovative, i'll give him that. I wonder if all the (previous) continuous insults directed at US politicians were to try and get some return shittalking, helping justify the turn to China.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 13:12 |
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Congratulations Philippines, I'm sure they'll be happy what with the fantastic reputation Chinese tourists have for being quiet and respectful. Also China, historically focused on mutual success and strongly opposed to making moves that benefit their global position at the cost of other nations territorial or political interests. I guess in 5 years when Filipinos have the option to visit China or Russia for holidays and are finding it difficult to work with European or American companies people will question whether Duterte made a good move but I doubt anyone who supports him currently really cares. Looks like the Philippines got their own brexit without even the benefit of knowing they were explicitly voting to gently caress themselves. Maybe the UK and Philippines can be bros dreaming of how good they had it and blaming the allies they rejected.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 13:18 |
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quote:He began his speech by saying that Americans are a “discourteous people” who are too loud for Asian sensibilities. Does the Philippines never get Chinese tourists or...?
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 13:22 |
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This *totally* won't backfire and China and the Philippines will have a healthy, mutual relationship just like China does with the various developing countries in Africa and Latin America.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 13:57 |
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Considering China's own economic problems, how hosed is the Phillipines?
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:00 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Considering China's own economic problems, how hosed is the Phillipines? Very. Also they can say goodbye to their territorial waters as the Chinese fishing fleet piles in under PLAN protection.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:14 |
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Baron Corbyn posted:Does the Philippines never get Chinese tourists or...? i seem to recall chinese/hk tourists having reduced after that disastrous casino tourist bus incident ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_hostage_crisis )
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:22 |
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So uh, I'm guessing this is marginally painful for the US and in the near-future extremely, incredibly painful for the Philippines?
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:23 |
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Anyone up for hiring a ComSci graduate with 9 years experience in the IT industry? Please?
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:27 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Very. Also they can say goodbye to their territorial waters as the Chinese fishing fleet piles in under PLAN protection. So how likely is it that Duterte is just a mad dog, or that he is bought?
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:32 |
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Crowsbeak posted:So how likely is it that Duterte is just a mad dog, or that he is bought? It's a combination of being both easily flattered and wanting to make big, dynamic changes. both caused by a large and fragile ego. He's trump, 100% all the way. This is what Trump would do if he won the election.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:38 |
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NewMars posted:So uh, I'm guessing this is marginally painful for the US and in the near-future extremely, incredibly painful for the Philippines? It's not really at all painful for the US except in theoretical terms. It is bad for the Philippines in very, very concrete terms. Like technically it's not great for the US to have an ally side with China in a region where we are trying to curtail Chinese imperialism, but pretty much everyone else is on board with us to oppose that soooooo.......in practical terms only the Philippines gets hurt by selling out to China.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:40 |
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The Saddest Rhino posted:i seem to recall chinese/hk tourists having reduced after that disastrous casino tourist bus incident ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_hostage_crisis ) Funnily enough, I spent the entirety of China's National Week holiday in Boracay surrounded by mainlanders, and here again in Bohol there's heaps of them around. But they're actually waaay better behaved here than the bus hordes you get in Thailand and other parts of SEA. It seems like the large bus package tours don't come here, only the wealthier people who have some form of manners. No yelling, no spitting, no kids making GBS threads in the street and so on. I've honestly been really surprised, because after 6 months of travelling through SEA, large Chinese bus groups are the bane of my existence.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 14:54 |
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My thoughts regarding the current Philippines situation: http://youtu.be/gO_KxGlY62g
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 15:17 |
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Mulva posted:It's not really at all painful for the US except in theoretical terms. It is bad for the Philippines in very, very concrete terms. Like technically it's not great for the US to have an ally side with China in a region where we are trying to curtail Chinese imperialism, but pretty much everyone else is on board with us to oppose that soooooo.......in practical terms only the Philippines gets hurt by selling out to China. Chances are, between New Zealand and Australia, this is going to just result in a defacto embargo for the Philippines.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 15:42 |
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Most of the countries actually benefitting from Chinese money are far enough away and already hosed over on deals over their resources that the Chinese are often an 'upgrade' (Though far from flawless). You got some decent metals, but I'm guessing you were already trading that to them anyway. On the other hand, the one thing that almost inevitably happens when China gets involved is corruption skyrocketing, so here's to hoping some goons got family in the right places I guess.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Most of the countries actually benefitting from Chinese money are far enough away and already hosed over on deals over their resources that the Chinese are often an 'upgrade' (Though far from flawless). You got some decent metals, but I'm guessing you were already trading that to them anyway. Well, president man there has basically signed over all the resources of the West Philippine Sea to china in exchange for ruinously large loans and vague promises. I don't know what the US's economic relation with the country was, but I'm guessing it was better than that. So the Philippines gets hit with the double whammy: all it's wealth belongs to another country and it's hideously corrupt on the homefront! Truly, now is the dawning of their golden age.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 17:49 |
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The situation I studied was the African one, where most of the problems with the post-colonial governments was a huge lack of capital and infrastructure to actually utilize natural resources and manpower and they were intentionally kept starved of both by the west. Any aid came with huge conditions, some good but mostly just poo poo gutting domestic markets and production in favour of importing from them. China would then step in, offer to give you the loan without any strings and often in the form of infrastructure, which they often couldn't build on the same scale themselves. How this ended up working depended very strongly on how well the government managed their deals with China, with some such as Angola and Nigeria managing to profit pretty well (before the shale-oil boom at least) while others, well. They got those roads I suppose, while those in charge got a few more gold plated toilets. I haven't the foggiest how things will develop in this situation, as they're both way closer and have a lot more negative history but uhhh, "great" is not very likely.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 17:54 |
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Welp, I-130 time. drat applications are so expensive.
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 18:01 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:The situation I studied was the African one, where most of the problems with the post-colonial governments was a huge lack of capital and infrastructure to actually utilize natural resources and manpower and they were intentionally kept starved of both by the west. Any aid came with huge conditions, some good but mostly just poo poo gutting domestic markets and production in favour of importing from them. Well, from the looks of this: quote:Other deals signed on Thursday in the Great Hall of the People included the Agricultural Cooperation Action Plan 2017-2019; an MOU on cooperation on animal and plant inspection and quarantine; an MOU on supporting the conduct of feasibility studies for major projects; and an MOU on production capacity and investment cooperation. And taking into account their history of performing similar operations, It seems like the Chinese are going to do some token investment in infrastructure while having massive investment into getting every piece of valuable land or ocean in the hands of corporations funneling profits back to the motherland. Also probably letting Deuterte go nuts in taking on larger and larger loans paying for his war on drugs.
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Baron Corbyn posted:Does the Philippines never get Chinese tourists or...? There are still a ton of Chinese tourists and they are still really bad and kind of disgusting, to be honest. My wife used to work in Makati Med, which is one of the best hospitals in the country and there were multiple times when I would come and pick her up and witness Chinese nationals doing gross poo poo. Spitting on the floors, blowing their snot onto the floor, one time even holding up their infant to pee into one of the potted plants. Awful stuff to do, especially in a hospital. VVVV: forgot to mention this as well. None of this makes sense! ihatepants fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Oct 20, 2016 |
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 18:07 |
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Also the war on drugs will get so much worse as economic ties to china increase, because guess what the biggest source of them in the region is!
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 18:10 |
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How is everyone in the Philippines reacting to the fact Glorious Leader just sold out the country for nothing?
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# ? Oct 20, 2016 18:12 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 07:51 |
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The agricultural poo poo is very normal; China, just like a lot of nations isn't self-sufficient when it comes to food so it's always near the top of the list when it comes to starting these deals. Huh. The loans aren't resource backed right? The poor assholes that didn't do that ended up getting seriously hosed in the financial crisis when a lot of the South and West African nations suddenly saw their currencies tumble while the Yuan stayed steady. They look like they're going the whole hog, which means that well, I wouldn't want to be a miner right now over there. And uhhh "news information exchange training" sounds like they might be importing the same systems and training that China uses to curtail civil liberties and control discourse there. Bad stuff. NewMars posted:Also the war on drugs will get so much worse as economic ties to china increase, because guess what the biggest source of them in the region is! Well, I mean I guess they're big on the poo poo ya can make in a factory? Ice and uhhh, special K?
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