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All you fuckers saying cheese is not an opiate have never had to blow a dealer in a back alley for some kraft singles
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:02 |
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peter banana posted:what is false here? I never said people are "as addicted" to cheese as opioids, just that the molecular structures of the peptides are similar. Where you imply that exorphins have any evidence of reinforcing behavior, or leave out that poo poo loads of foods generate exorphins when eaten, and that soyomorphins are considerably more opioidergically potent but "soy addiction" isn't a thing.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:03 |
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Condiv posted:All you fuckers saying cheese is not an opiate have never had to blow a dealer in a back alley for some kraft singles You should get at least 5 slices for that.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:04 |
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peter banana posted:This whole derail started because people lump vegans in with anti-vax and anti-GMO incorrectly, because most people don't know actual vegans and the ones with the loudest voices are usually really dumb. I mean you've pretty clearly proven yourself as being anti-scientific in this thread so anecdote at least points towards this being correct. Had you stuck with the animal-cruelty and enivornmental damage arguments (which are the main reasons I've cut almost all red meat out of my diet personally) no one would've jumped on you. Vegans/vegetarians have plenty of extremely valid and well based scientific arguments to use without having to make up stupid bullshit about people being addicted to cheese or scare tactics around puss in milk.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:07 |
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I don't drink water because fish gently caress in it. Is there a unicorn to solve that?
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:07 |
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pr0zac posted:I mean you've pretty clearly proven yourself as being anti-scientific in this thread so anecdote at least points towards this being correct. Had you stuck with the animal-cruelty and enivornmental damage arguments (which are the main reasons I've cut almost all red meat out of my diet personally) no one would've jumped on you. Vegans/vegetarians have plenty of extremely valid and well based scientific arguments to use without having to make up stupid bullshit about people being addicted to cheese or scare tactics around puss in milk. Literally all I said was: 1) Casomorphin exists and their structures to opiods is similar. Never said there weren't agonists. Literally never said that. The paper I linked to said exactly that, "Thus, a number of milk protein fragments has been shown to behave like opioid receptor ligands able to address opioidergic systems in the adult's or in the neonate's organism." That is literally all I implied. Read my comments again. Never said people were as addicted. Reading comprehension please. Literally said "kind of", by which I meant the preceding quote. 2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you. peter banana fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Oct 21, 2016 |
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peter banana posted:2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you. That's pretty much a textbook scare tactic.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:17 |
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peter banana posted:2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you. "Fairsley's Markets - you'll never find a rat here!"
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:19 |
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but I thought we were all just supposed to accept our food is gross? If we accept this nuanced position, how can we be scared?
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:20 |
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"all i said was that the food is drenched in satan's blood and makes you dick fall off, some people are fine with that so i dont know why it's a scare tactic"
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:20 |
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peter banana posted:Literally all I said was: Did you know that margarine is one molecule away from being plastic?!? makes u think
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:20 |
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boner confessor posted:"all i said was that the food is drenched in satan's blood and makes you dick fall off, some people are fine with that so i dont know why it's a scare tactic" never said pus had any negative effects either?
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:22 |
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peter banana posted:never said pus had any negative effects either? Oh my god, shut up you loon.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:23 |
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peter banana posted:never said pus had any negative effects either? the benefits of a vegan diet, ladies and gents. round of applause! MikeCrotch posted:Did you know that margarine is one molecule away from being plastic?!? makes u think i hear there's chemicals in it. yuck! no thanks
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:24 |
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duz posted:I don't drink water because fish gently caress in it. Is there a unicorn to solve that? hydrohacking to evaporate and condense the finest of artesian deep-aquifer waters
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:25 |
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Does Blue Apron provide a measured amount of pus in the spice bag?
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:57 |
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peter banana posted:2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you. You aren't even right though. Milk doesn't contain pus. Somatic cells aren't pus. People lump you in with anti-vax crazies because you have a bunch of factually incorrect ideas and it just happens that vaccines being in milk isn't the one you picked up and instead decided to fall for a bunch of weird nonsense about cheese being addictive and somatic cells being pus somehow.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 17:59 |
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Zachack posted:Does Blue Apron provide a measured amount of pus in the spice bag? do insects have pus in them? because oregano is allowed "Average of 1250 or more insect fragments per 10 grams"
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:03 |
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Everything involving eating is kinda gross since you're grinding up formerly living tissue of one sort or another shoving it in an acid until it becomes a slurry and then slowly absorbing it with a bunch of tubing evolved to have very high surface area The mechanics of life on earth are gross if you think about them
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:04 |
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Shugojin posted:Everything involving eating is kinda gross since you're grinding up formerly living tissue of one sort or another shoving it in an acid until it becomes a slurry and then slowly absorbing it with a bunch of tubing evolved to have very high surface area Lets all get downloaded into clean, pretty robot bodies.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:05 |
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Shugojin posted:Everything involving eating is kinda gross since you're grinding up formerly living tissue of one sort or another shoving it in an acid until it becomes a slurry and then slowly absorbing it with a bunch of tubing evolved to have very high surface area This is why Scandinavian lye fish is the superior food product.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:09 |
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I can't let a discussion about a techbro company like Blue Apron go without making its patrons feel bad about themselves The Not-So-Wholesome Reality Behind The Making of Your Meal Kit quote:August 26, 2015, was, by all accounts, a stressful day at Blue Apron’s facility in Richmond, California. quote:Still, two years later, former employees recall a hectic pace. "One day in pack-out could be worse than an entire Black Friday at Best Buy, as far as stress goes," the team lead added. Another said it wasn’t uncommon to see someone quit on their first day. quote:On April 6, 2015, Toiya Adams, who had been working as a warehouse associate for seven months, was crossing the yard on a forklift carrying a broken metal table when the machine she was operating rolled on its side, pinning her left leg between the floor and the broken side mirror of the forklift.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:14 |
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As far as "biohacking" goes, I don't see a problem with goofy quantified self poo poo as long as you're your own guinea pig and are willing to live with the consequences, i.e. eating nothing but cheese for macronutrient purposes only to end up on the throne for hours with horrendous constipation. I do have a problem with the undeserved arrogance exhibited by software engineers who think programming skills equate to a medical doctorate in their field of choice and the VC money sacks who fall for this and fund their potentially harmful medical ambitions that are little better than "hold my beer and watch this" performed in a semi-clinical setting.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:23 |
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Is lab made ethanol basically the most feasible target if someone wanted to start making calories derived from only nonliving sources?
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:23 |
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Rhesus Pieces posted:As far as "biohacking" goes, I don't see a problem with goofy quantified self poo poo as long as you're your own guinea pig and are willing to live with the consequences, i.e. eating nothing but cheese for macronutrient purposes only to end up on the throne for hours with horrendous constipation. IMO biohacking should stay more in the realm of lightup pillows or other weird stuff because you can really cause problems with microbiology
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 18:30 |
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Non Serviam posted:Let's not leave the Blue Apron derail just to go into a veganism derail. Being a vegan is unhealthy and stupid, and milk is delicious. Also, pasteurized milk is pus free, so everybody wins. Let's all accept this and move on. There are these guys who want to make vaginas smell like ripe peaches. quote:At the DEMO conference in San Jose, California, on Wednesday afternoon, Heinz and Gome outlined their shared vision and previewed plans for a new probiotic supplement that will enable women to change the way their vaginas smell. Called Sweet Peach, it will be made using Cambrian Genomics' DNA printing technology and financed through a campaign on the crowdfunding platform Tilt. Oh wait, but that's not entirely what they meant! quote:For the record, that's not how Sweet Peach will work. According to Hutchinson, a user will take a sample of her vaginal microbiome and send it in for analysis. After determining the makeup of her microbiome--in effect, taking a census of the microorganisms that reside in her vagina--the company will supply a personalized regimen of probiotic supplements designed to promote optimal health. By making sure desirable microbes flourish in their proper balance, the supplements will help ensure that bad ones, like the ones that cause yeast infections, can't get a toehold. Their first goal is just to bring your stinky vagina up to a neutral odor. Custom scents are clearly phase two.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:As far as "biohacking" goes, I don't see a problem with goofy quantified self poo poo as long as you're your own guinea pig and are willing to live with the consequences, i.e. eating nothing but cheese for macronutrient purposes only to end up on the throne for hours with horrendous constipation. No one is really funding this. At best there is minimal Kickstarter money. There is nothing but hype.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 19:04 |
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Zachack posted:Does Blue Apron provide a measured amount of pus in the spice bag? Maybe they should put the daily recommended pus on the new nutrition inserts. Pus as a knick-knack.
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LGD posted:Because they take care of the meal planning as well and provide novelty, which are actually significant burdens that you're totally glossing over. They also scale portions appropriately for two people so you don't have tons of leftovers or excess ingredients that you need to find another use for or watch go bad. Sorry to keep this derail going but this is too dumb to let go. The actual value of the meal planning and novelty they provide has already been challenged here, but the fact remains that the internet is chock full of great, free resources for both of these things. Watching Jamie Oliver cook something on Youtube is an inarguably more valuable experience than the scant pamphlet and vague recipe that comes with a Blue Apron box. There are thousands of talented culinary instructors with blogs and video content that anyone can explore for free. Also, scaling portions is part of the inherent problem. You don't get extra ingredients. If you gently caress up the recipe you're SOL. The price is on par with restaurant delivery, and you don't even get leftovers for breakfast or lunch the next day. The entire concept is wasteful and bad. If Blue Apron inspires someone to learn how to cook, then that's absolutely a good thing. But they can't provide sustainable value. If you learn to cook with Blue Apron, you're a customer for three months at the absolute maximum. If you want to keep going, Blue Apron will not provide you with an opportunity to explore your creative potential beyond their rote recipes. You could shop entirely at Whole Foods and still spend less than half the per meal cost, and get better ingredients to boot. It's a bad business model. Unless they can scale enough to take the cost down by at least half, they're hosed. And it sounds like they're already running beyond capacity.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Well, for Silicon Valley techbro stories, I was recently told the following by a biologist working at an instrument company. If that's a pathogenic strain of E. Coli, that's a BSL-2 hazard. Holy poo poo. I've worked in a lovely lab before. As badly as that company was run, I still had to get inoculated for everything pathogenic in the lab before I could step foot in it. They had so many breaches of the BL2 lab, they had to flood the entire floor with chlorine gas on an almost weekly basis before they got shut down. How are they even getting biohazardous research material if they can't pass a minimal inspection?
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 19:17 |
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Minecraft Holmes posted:Their first goal is just to bring your stinky vagina up to a neutral odor. Custom scents are clearly phase two. What you're saying about the biolab hackerspace is scary as hell, and I plan to live under the bed, having my loving family replenish my gin and Soylent supplies, until the fad passes.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 19:44 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Is lab made ethanol basically the most feasible target if someone wanted to start making calories derived from only nonliving sources? If you want ethanol, what is wrong with potatoes, yeast and sugar ? Plus a destillation equipment. No need for a lab, a shed is enough. Ethanol loses its appeal when you regularly wipe of surfaces with 95% ethanol.
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Cardiac posted:If you want ethanol, what is wrong with potatoes, yeast and sugar ? Plus a destillation equipment. No need for a lab, a shed is enough. I'm going to make a startup where I source a livable diet from only nonliving stones for a new breed of ultra vegan who wants to live without killing.
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Cardiac posted:If you want ethanol, what is wrong with potatoes, yeast and sugar ? Plus a destillation equipment. No need for a lab, a shed is enough.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I'm going to make a startup where I source a livable diet from only nonliving stones for a new breed of ultra vegan who wants to live without killing. Would you like to partner with my disruptive new open-sourced, shared-expertise oral health service, Dent*.*? You refer your customers to our app after they eat your chewable stone mixtures, and we'll cut you in on the profit-share from our independent, unlicensed dental contractors.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 19:58 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:I wish current milk substitutes were better. When I had to drink them they were extremely watery and tasteless. Vile on cereal or in tea, acceptable in coffee. Their aim seems to be to be healthy rather than flavour, so they are low-fat low-taste. A higher fat version might taste better. Part of the thing with being watery is that fat carries flavor, so using more fats in say almond milk to get the proper mouthfeel will make it taste a lot more like almond. Same for coconut milk vs coconut water.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 20:14 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Home distillation is illegal like whoa, which is a pity because I'd love messing around with making my fruit wines into eau de vie. You clearly are not fit for disrupting the liquor market. Also, yeast, sugar plus potatoes is enough to give something with like 12% after 3 weeks. Who is actually gonna stop you from doing that?
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Cardiac posted:You clearly are not fit for disrupting the liquor market.
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# ? Oct 21, 2016 20:20 |
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Distillation, a process separate from fermentation, is almost always illegal in private homes because of the ridiculously high explosion risk
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call to action posted:Distillation, a process separate from fermentation, is almost always illegal in private homes because of the ridiculously high explosion risk
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