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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


All you fuckers saying cheese is not an opiate have never had to blow a dealer in a back alley for some kraft singles :colbert:

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Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

peter banana posted:

what is false here? I never said people are "as addicted" to cheese as opioids, just that the molecular structures of the peptides are similar.

Here's a peer-reviewed paper saying our opioidergic systems treat casomorphins similarly.

Where you imply that exorphins have any evidence of reinforcing behavior, or leave out that poo poo loads of foods generate exorphins when eaten, and that soyomorphins are considerably more opioidergically potent but "soy addiction" isn't a thing.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Condiv posted:

All you fuckers saying cheese is not an opiate have never had to blow a dealer in a back alley for some kraft singles :colbert:

You should get at least 5 slices for that.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

peter banana posted:

This whole derail started because people lump vegans in with anti-vax and anti-GMO incorrectly, because most people don't know actual vegans and the ones with the loudest voices are usually really dumb.

I mean you've pretty clearly proven yourself as being anti-scientific in this thread so anecdote at least points towards this being correct. Had you stuck with the animal-cruelty and enivornmental damage arguments (which are the main reasons I've cut almost all red meat out of my diet personally) no one would've jumped on you. Vegans/vegetarians have plenty of extremely valid and well based scientific arguments to use without having to make up stupid bullshit about people being addicted to cheese or scare tactics around puss in milk.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


I don't drink water because fish gently caress in it. Is there a unicorn to solve that?

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

pr0zac posted:

I mean you've pretty clearly proven yourself as being anti-scientific in this thread so anecdote at least points towards this being correct. Had you stuck with the animal-cruelty and enivornmental damage arguments (which are the main reasons I've cut almost all red meat out of my diet personally) no one would've jumped on you. Vegans/vegetarians have plenty of extremely valid and well based scientific arguments to use without having to make up stupid bullshit about people being addicted to cheese or scare tactics around puss in milk.

Literally all I said was:

1) Casomorphin exists and their structures to opiods is similar. Never said there weren't agonists. Literally never said that. The paper I linked to said exactly that, "Thus, a number of milk protein fragments has been shown to behave like opioid receptor ligands able to address opioidergic systems in the adult's or in the neonate's organism." That is literally all I implied. Read my comments again. Never said people were as addicted. Reading comprehension please. Literally said "kind of", by which I meant the preceding quote.

2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you.

peter banana fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Oct 21, 2016

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

peter banana posted:

2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you.

That's pretty much a textbook scare tactic.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

peter banana posted:

2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you.

"Fairsley's Markets - you'll never find a rat here!"

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
but I thought we were all just supposed to accept our food is gross? If we accept this nuanced position, how can we be scared?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
"all i said was that the food is drenched in satan's blood and makes you dick fall off, some people are fine with that so i dont know why it's a scare tactic" :shrug:

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

peter banana posted:

Literally all I said was:

1) Casomorphin exists and their structures to opiods is similar. Never said there weren't agonists. Literally never said that. The paper I linked to said exactly that, "Thus, a number of milk protein fragments has been shown to behave like opioid receptor ligands able to address opioidergic systems in the adult's or in the neonate's organism." That is literally all I implied. Read my comments again. Never said people were as addicted. Reading comprehension please. Literally said "kind of", by which I meant the preceding quote.

2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you.

Did you know that margarine is one molecule away from being plastic?!? makes u think

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

boner confessor posted:

"all i said was that the food is drenched in satan's blood and makes you dick fall off, some people are fine with that so i dont know why it's a scare tactic" :shrug:

never said pus had any negative effects either?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

peter banana posted:

never said pus had any negative effects either?

Oh my god, shut up you loon.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

peter banana posted:

never said pus had any negative effects either?

the benefits of a vegan diet, ladies and gents. round of applause!

MikeCrotch posted:

Did you know that margarine is one molecule away from being plastic?!? makes u think

i hear there's chemicals in it. yuck! no thanks

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

duz posted:

I don't drink water because fish gently caress in it. Is there a unicorn to solve that?

hydrohacking to evaporate and condense the finest of artesian deep-aquifer waters

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Does Blue Apron provide a measured amount of pus in the spice bag?

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

peter banana posted:

2) Pus in milk exists. Never implied it was a problem, just that I would choose something else. Not sure how that's a scare tactic. If you don't want pus, that's up to you.

You aren't even right though.

Milk doesn't contain pus. Somatic cells aren't pus.

People lump you in with anti-vax crazies because you have a bunch of factually incorrect ideas and it just happens that vaccines being in milk isn't the one you picked up and instead decided to fall for a bunch of weird nonsense about cheese being addictive and somatic cells being pus somehow.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Zachack posted:

Does Blue Apron provide a measured amount of pus in the spice bag?

do insects have pus in them? because oregano is allowed "Average of 1250 or more insect fragments per 10 grams"

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Everything involving eating is kinda gross since you're grinding up formerly living tissue of one sort or another shoving it in an acid until it becomes a slurry and then slowly absorbing it with a bunch of tubing evolved to have very high surface area

The mechanics of life on earth are gross if you think about them

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Shugojin posted:

Everything involving eating is kinda gross since you're grinding up formerly living tissue of one sort or another shoving it in an acid until it becomes a slurry and then slowly absorbing it with a bunch of tubing evolved to have very high surface area

The mechanics of life on earth are gross if you think about them

Lets all get downloaded into clean, pretty robot bodies.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Shugojin posted:

Everything involving eating is kinda gross since you're grinding up formerly living tissue of one sort or another shoving it in an acid until it becomes a slurry and then slowly absorbing it with a bunch of tubing evolved to have very high surface area

The mechanics of life on earth are gross if you think about them

This is why Scandinavian lye fish is the superior food product.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

I can't let a discussion about a techbro company like Blue Apron go without making its patrons feel bad about themselves :)

The Not-So-Wholesome Reality Behind The Making of Your Meal Kit

quote:

August 26, 2015, was, by all accounts, a stressful day at Blue Apron’s facility in Richmond, California.

As the sun rose over what would be an unusually warm Wednesday, a 21-year-old employee made a phone call to a supervisor at the $2 billion food startup's Bay Area fulfillment center, where tens of thousands of meal kits are packed into cardboard containers and shipped across the continental United States. The supervisor didn't pick up the phone that morning, so he left a message.

In it, he said he planned to quit his job at Blue Apron later that day. He also said he planned to bring a gun to the warehouse and shoot his manager, as well as other people at the facility. In two messages, he named three people specifically who he wanted to put bullets into when he got there. Around 8:30, en route to work, the supervisor called the police.

Police apprehended the man, who did not have a gun, later that morning. But at Blue Apron, the day was just getting started.

While company security and a Richmond police officer on patrol monitored threats outside the warehouse, inside, Blue Apron management was meeting with representatives from California's Division of Occupational Safety and Health at the conclusion of a two-week inspection by the agency that would result in nine violations and proposed penalties totaling $11,695 for unsafe conditions that put workers at risk for fractured bones, chemical burns, and more. This penalty came on top of $13,050 following a forklift accident earlier in the year, giving Blue Apron the most OSHA violations in the fast-growing, $5 billion meal-kit startup industry, and among the most in perishable prepared-food manufacturing in California. (Like many companies, Blue Apron appealed these findings, and had some of its violation classifications downgraded to "general" or "other." One of its cases is still open.)

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Still, two years later, former employees recall a hectic pace. "One day in pack-out could be worse than an entire Black Friday at Best Buy, as far as stress goes," the team lead added. Another said it wasn’t uncommon to see someone quit on their first day.

"It was crazy. You felt like you were running all the time. Your hair's on fire and you can't keep up,” said Custer.

quote:

On April 6, 2015, Toiya Adams, who had been working as a warehouse associate for seven months, was crossing the yard on a forklift carrying a broken metal table when the machine she was operating rolled on its side, pinning her left leg between the floor and the broken side mirror of the forklift.

Adams was taken to the hospital, where she was told she had “sustained a deep laceration on the lower left leg, split left ankle and pressured heel,” according to Cal/OSHA reports. (BuzzFeed News was unable to reach Adams.)

Blue Apron’s initial report claimed that the “primary cause” of the accident was “speeding/reckless driving,” not workplace hazards. Health and safety inspectors disagreed. To start, they found a depression in the cement yard that Blue Apron had failed to repair, and which video footage confirmed had been a contributing factor in Adams’ accident. Notes from the inspection also say that the tires on the forklift were bald and worn out.

But the bigger problem was that Adams wasn’t certified to use the forklift in question: She’d been trained on other warehouse equipment, but not this one. If she had been properly trained, she might not have been carrying an unbalanced load above eye level — two factors that contributed to her fall, according to inspectors. Cal/OSHA initially proposed $13,050 in penalties for Blue Apron for violations the agency said could have resulted in head trauma or even death. (Two of the violations associated with the accident initially classified as “serious” were later downgraded after Blue Apron appealed and provided new evidence to the appeals board.)

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

As far as "biohacking" goes, I don't see a problem with goofy quantified self poo poo as long as you're your own guinea pig and are willing to live with the consequences, i.e. eating nothing but cheese for macronutrient purposes only to end up on the throne for hours with horrendous constipation.

I do have a problem with the undeserved arrogance exhibited by software engineers who think programming skills equate to a medical doctorate in their field of choice and the VC money sacks who fall for this and fund their potentially harmful medical ambitions that are little better than "hold my beer and watch this" performed in a semi-clinical setting.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
Is lab made ethanol basically the most feasible target if someone wanted to start making calories derived from only nonliving sources?

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Rhesus Pieces posted:

As far as "biohacking" goes, I don't see a problem with goofy quantified self poo poo as long as you're your own guinea pig and are willing to live with the consequences, i.e. eating nothing but cheese for macronutrient purposes only to end up on the throne for hours with horrendous constipation.

I do have a problem with the undeserved arrogance exhibited by software engineers who think programming skills equate to a medical doctorate in their field of choice and the VC money sacks who fall for this and fund their potentially harmful medical ambitions that are little better than "hold my beer and watch this" performed in a semi-clinical setting.

IMO biohacking should stay more in the realm of lightup pillows or other weird stuff because you can really cause problems with microbiology

Minecraft Holmes
Oct 21, 2016

Non Serviam posted:

Let's not leave the Blue Apron derail just to go into a veganism derail. Being a vegan is unhealthy and stupid, and milk is delicious. Also, pasteurized milk is pus free, so everybody wins. Let's all accept this and move on.


Can anybody share their experiences with biohacking? Because it sounds insane.

There are these guys who want to make vaginas smell like ripe peaches.

quote:

At the DEMO conference in San Jose, California, on Wednesday afternoon, Heinz and Gome outlined their shared vision and previewed plans for a new probiotic supplement that will enable women to change the way their vaginas smell. Called Sweet Peach, it will be made using Cambrian Genomics' DNA printing technology and financed through a campaign on the crowdfunding platform Tilt.

Sweet Peach will have practical benefits, like preventing yeast infections and other health problems caused by microorganisms, Heinz said in his presentation. But the ambition behind it is a loftier one.

"The idea is personal empowerment," he said. "All your smells are not human. They're produced by the creatures that live on you."


"We think it's a fundamental human right to not only know your code and the code of the things that live on you but also to write your own code and personalize it," he added.*

And why stop at humans? The other product Heinz and Gome are partnering on is Petomics, a probiotic for dogs and cats that makes their feces smell like bananas.


Oh wait, but that's not entirely what they meant!

quote:

For the record, that's not how Sweet Peach will work. According to Hutchinson, a user will take a sample of her vaginal microbiome and send it in for analysis. After determining the makeup of her microbiome--in effect, taking a census of the microorganisms that reside in her vagina--the company will supply a personalized regimen of probiotic supplements designed to promote optimal health. By making sure desirable microbes flourish in their proper balance, the supplements will help ensure that bad ones, like the ones that cause yeast infections, can't get a toehold.

The name alludes not to any quality of the product but to the way peaches have been used as a symbol of the vagina in literature for hundreds of years.

Their first goal is just to bring your stinky vagina up to a neutral odor. Custom scents are clearly phase two.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Rhesus Pieces posted:

As far as "biohacking" goes, I don't see a problem with goofy quantified self poo poo as long as you're your own guinea pig and are willing to live with the consequences, i.e. eating nothing but cheese for macronutrient purposes only to end up on the throne for hours with horrendous constipation.

I do have a problem with the undeserved arrogance exhibited by software engineers who think programming skills equate to a medical doctorate in their field of choice and the VC money sacks who fall for this and fund their potentially harmful medical ambitions that are little better than "hold my beer and watch this" performed in a semi-clinical setting.

No one is really funding this. At best there is minimal Kickstarter money. There is nothing but hype.

archangelwar
Oct 28, 2004

Teaching Moments

Zachack posted:

Does Blue Apron provide a measured amount of pus in the spice bag?

Maybe they should put the daily recommended pus on the new nutrition inserts. Pus as a knick-knack.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

LGD posted:

Because they take care of the meal planning as well and provide novelty, which are actually significant burdens that you're totally glossing over. They also scale portions appropriately for two people so you don't have tons of leftovers or excess ingredients that you need to find another use for or watch go bad.

Sorry to keep this derail going but this is too dumb to let go.

The actual value of the meal planning and novelty they provide has already been challenged here, but the fact remains that the internet is chock full of great, free resources for both of these things. Watching Jamie Oliver cook something on Youtube is an inarguably more valuable experience than the scant pamphlet and vague recipe that comes with a Blue Apron box. There are thousands of talented culinary instructors with blogs and video content that anyone can explore for free.

Also, scaling portions is part of the inherent problem. You don't get extra ingredients. If you gently caress up the recipe you're SOL. The price is on par with restaurant delivery, and you don't even get leftovers for breakfast or lunch the next day. The entire concept is wasteful and bad.

If Blue Apron inspires someone to learn how to cook, then that's absolutely a good thing. But they can't provide sustainable value. If you learn to cook with Blue Apron, you're a customer for three months at the absolute maximum. If you want to keep going, Blue Apron will not provide you with an opportunity to explore your creative potential beyond their rote recipes. You could shop entirely at Whole Foods and still spend less than half the per meal cost, and get better ingredients to boot.

It's a bad business model. Unless they can scale enough to take the cost down by at least half, they're hosed. And it sounds like they're already running beyond capacity.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Well, for Silicon Valley techbro stories, I was recently told the following by a biologist working at an instrument company.

Apparently there's a place called Biocurious in SV, which is a biology "hackspace". So, basically, it's full of techbros who believe that because they can teach themselves how to code, they can teach themselves how to do anything, including molecular biology lab work. The result? Basically a rolling disaster area. They had to turn all of the bins into biohazard bins because the techbros were too dumb to know the difference. There were people keeping E. coli cultures in the lunch room fridge alongside food. The biologist I was chatting to was firmly of the belief that when the zombie apocalypse comes, it will be from that lab.

If that's a pathogenic strain of E. Coli, that's a BSL-2 hazard. Holy poo poo.

I've worked in a lovely lab before. As badly as that company was run, I still had to get inoculated for everything pathogenic in the lab before I could step foot in it. They had so many breaches of the BL2 lab, they had to flood the entire floor with chlorine gas on an almost weekly basis before they got shut down.

How are they even getting biohazardous research material if they can't pass a minimal inspection?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Minecraft Holmes posted:

Their first goal is just to bring your stinky vagina up to a neutral odor. Custom scents are clearly phase two.
This is right up there with Listerine's invention of halitosis as a problem everybody should obsess over. A healthy vagina does have a neutral odor, and if your vagina stinks you need to be seeing a doctor to find out what's wrong, not be sending off samples to a startup. This is like deciding that the problem with coughs is that you're making too much noise, and what you need is a startup to reduce the noise level of your coughs.

What you're saying about the biolab hackerspace is scary as hell, and I plan to live under the bed, having my loving family replenish my gin and Soylent supplies, until the fad passes.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

Is lab made ethanol basically the most feasible target if someone wanted to start making calories derived from only nonliving sources?

If you want ethanol, what is wrong with potatoes, yeast and sugar ? Plus a destillation equipment. No need for a lab, a shed is enough.
Ethanol loses its appeal when you regularly wipe of surfaces with 95% ethanol.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Cardiac posted:

If you want ethanol, what is wrong with potatoes, yeast and sugar ? Plus a destillation equipment. No need for a lab, a shed is enough.

I'm going to make a startup where I source a livable diet from only nonliving stones for a new breed of ultra vegan who wants to live without killing.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Cardiac posted:

If you want ethanol, what is wrong with potatoes, yeast and sugar ? Plus a destillation equipment. No need for a lab, a shed is enough.
Ethanol loses its appeal when you regularly wipe of surfaces with 95% ethanol.
Home distillation is illegal like whoa, which is a pity because I'd love messing around with making my fruit wines into eau de vie.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Owlofcreamcheese posted:

I'm going to make a startup where I source a livable diet from only nonliving stones for a new breed of ultra vegan who wants to live without killing.

Would you like to partner with my disruptive new open-sourced, shared-expertise oral health service, Dent*.*? You refer your customers to our app after they eat your chewable stone mixtures, and we'll cut you in on the profit-share from our independent, unlicensed dental contractors.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

BarbarianElephant posted:

I wish current milk substitutes were better. When I had to drink them they were extremely watery and tasteless. Vile on cereal or in tea, acceptable in coffee. Their aim seems to be to be healthy rather than flavour, so they are low-fat low-taste. A higher fat version might taste better.

There was a case recently where a company developed a vegan mayonnaise that actually tasted like mayonnaise and Hellmans tried to sue the hell out of it. The mayo is called "Just Mayo" and I'd recommend it for anyone avoiding eggs for any reason. I'm sure a lot of gourmands will turn up to sneer at my lack of taste (and laziness in not making my own mayo) but it didn't taste any different to regular mayonnaise to me. A great product.

Part of the thing with being watery is that fat carries flavor, so using more fats in say almond milk to get the proper mouthfeel will make it taste a lot more like almond. Same for coconut milk vs coconut water.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Home distillation is illegal like whoa, which is a pity because I'd love messing around with making my fruit wines into eau de vie.

You clearly are not fit for disrupting the liquor market.
Also, yeast, sugar plus potatoes is enough to give something with like 12% after 3 weeks. Who is actually gonna stop you from doing that?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Cardiac posted:

You clearly are not fit for disrupting the liquor market.
Also, yeast, sugar plus potatoes is enough to give something with like 12% after 3 weeks. Who is actually gonna stop you from doing that?
Nobody, as long as you stay within the legal limits (quantity, not proof) for home wine making/beer making. Somebody fund my disruptive make-your-own-alehouse product. I call it "plonk sharing" or possibly "suds surfing".

call to action
Jun 10, 2016

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Distillation, a process separate from fermentation, is almost always illegal in private homes because of the ridiculously high explosion risk

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Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

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call to action posted:

Distillation, a process separate from fermentation, is almost always illegal in private homes because of the ridiculously high explosion risk
I think the reasoning has more to do with Federal and state liquor licensing and taxes. It used to be very difficult to get a small distillery license because it was assumed you were moonshining and were going to be avoiding paying Federal taxes; I think it's easier now to start a "craft distillery". There are loads of explosive things you can do perfectly legally in your house, and buy supplies for openly. If the motivation were "glass go boom", they wouldn't let people, say, reload their own ammunition.

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