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Sephyr posted:Talking to them? Yes. Yeah. like it's not optimal. But that's how the game is played. Like so often even if not directly given a story, or oppo a rival campaign might just be like "heyyyyy, you might want to investigate or look into "x"." Tiny Brontosaurus posted:
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I think the term used was feigned concern. She is waving his suffering as a bloody flag to score points with white liberals after all. While in office she will then continue the tradition of creating refugees. She voted for Iraq, after all.
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DeadmansReach posted:I'd always heard that "honkey" came from white men picking up women/dates in black neighborhoods but being too afraid to be seen there and just honking the horn outside. Can we take a break from watching a poster dig deeper and deeper into a hole and just admire this post? 
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Pastrymancy posted:I would like to debate and/or discuss which state has the best "I Voted Sticker"
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Pastrymancy posted:I would like to debate and/or discuss which state has the best "I Voted Sticker" I'm insanely jealous of this. We just get the boring old flag stickers here 
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Pastrymancy posted:I would like to debate and/or discuss which state has the best "I Voted Sticker" I googled looking for the Cali sticker and got this adorableness instead 
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Pastrymancy posted:I would like to debate and/or discuss which state has the best "I Voted Sticker" Washington's is awful, and you have to download it because we vote by mail (the horror!): 
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:No you absolutely should if that's what you want, it just seems like a lot of people, especially younger men, are uncomfortable with it. They know that calling adults "girls" is demeaning (huge ymmv there of course, context is everything), but guys I've talked to about this are often afraid that they'll offend by saying "women," like it implies that they're old, or just all this nameless negativity they associate with it that I don't fully have an answer for. Can I just say that, as a woman, these current Viagra commercials where a 50-year-old woman tells the camera "my guy knows what to bring!" are so loving creepy to me. Something about having an adult woman call her husband "my guy" just feels so infantilizing.
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Instant Sunrise posted:you may not have been around for this, but back in the days in GBS there was this gimmick band called "Captain Dan and the Scurvy Crew" and their whole gimmick was that they were a bunch of white guys who did pirate themed rap. it was really cringeworthy but GBS at the time ate it up, and eventually posters in PHIZ started their own thread to clown on it because it was really bad, and a lot of the posts in the thread were about how "I can't relate to regular rap, but i totally love this pirate themed gimmick rap" Did you see Lowenaffchen's essay in Current Affairs that compares Hamilton to Captain Dan and his Scurvy Crew? It's overwrought but some of the burns are funny.
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boner confessor posted:*reaches for pen* Blue ink matters
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Can I just say that, as a woman, these current Viagra commercials where a 50-year-old woman tells the camera "my guy knows what to bring!" are so loving creepy to me. Something about having an adult woman call her husband "my guy" just feels so infantilizing. Her guy brings a spare bathtub, of course. That's code for old people doin' it - chilling in tubs holding hands.
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lozzle posted:Washington's is awful, and you have to download it because we vote by mail (the horror!): I mean if the price to pay for improved access to voting was stickers, I'd do it.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Can I just say that, as a woman, these current Viagra commercials where a 50-year-old woman tells the camera "my guy knows what to bring!" are so loving creepy to me. Something about having an adult woman call her husband "my guy" just feels so infantilizing. Not a Mary Wells fan?
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woke wedding drone posted:I got my ballot and it's got Donald Trump right on it! I'm super loving offended Oh, sorry, it sounds like you got one of the non-rigged ballots. Please report it to the local DNC Election Control Office so they can rectify the situation.
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lozzle posted:Washington's is awful, and you have to download it because we vote by mail (the horror!): 
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Pastrymancy posted:I would like to debate and/or discuss which state has the best "I Voted Sticker" San Francisco's is multilingual. 
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Too Shy Guy posted:Ladies is good but only if you phrase it as plural possessive and apply it for single women. The creepiness of the word "ladies" is proportional to the amount the speaker's pitch increases when the person says it. The more emphasis on the "lay" sound, the creepier it gets.
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Trabisnikof posted:I think this is part of the reason white people cling to Abuela. It is removed in their minds from the connotations of sexism and has an exotic feel as a term for a respected elder (especially when viewed through the lens of what little Spanish language use in media white peoples often see). I've never heard anybody call Hillary Abuela outside of this forum. Also the term is a little weird to use for her because it reminds me how Trumpists like to call their fuhrer Daddy.
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withak posted:San Francisco's is multilingual. That's actually really cool.
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Too Shy Guy posted:Ladies is good but only if you phrase it as plural possessive and apply it for single women. 
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Hawaii doesn't even get its own sticker, it's just the generic "I Voted" one.
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Feldegast42 posted:I've never heard anybody call Hillary Abuela outside of this forum. Also the term is a little weird to use for her because it reminds me how Trumpists like to call their fuhrer Daddy. Please do not correct me if I'm wrong but I think 'grandmother' has less Freudian connotations
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FactsAreUseless posted:I like this, because it's like "I EAT rear end AND I VOTE" As a Georgia resident, confirmed
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Feldegast42 posted:I've never heard anybody call Hillary Abuela outside of this forum. Also the term is a little weird to use for her because it reminds me how Trumpists like to call their fuhrer Daddy. That's just generic twitter creepiness. It's interesting how a lot of internet crap like that and Pepe are now permanently linked to Trump.
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 The dedicated anti-#NeverTrump candidate, Donald Trump.
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Boy this is cute. boner confessor posted:100% of people who are convinced there is some SJW mob going around accusing people of being racist to silence them, turns out, say really awful and racist things more often than most People who detest SJW types demonstrate that they're racist by the things they say about Muslim people, female people and black people. They don't demonstrate it by their fanatical non-adherence to patch-work measures that don't actually make people more aware of race because those measures don't and can't demonstrate offense where none is present. I'm not a racist, confederate, Nazi whatever. Whether it seems like I probably am based on cues in the things I say being familiar from other quarters is moot. I felt seething disgust from reading about him and then I pieced together from the course he took in his last few years - not just minor adjustments in language or a death bed confession but full-throated condemnation of racial violence - that something during the war likely changed his outlook. I'm just not the type of person who can write people off as easily as flipping a light switch off or whatever. You can say that this is a sign that I'm a racist, after all I'm treating a hero to white southerners who oftentimes are racist, with a more humanizing touch. In so doing I haven't managed the slightest bit of disrespect to any of his victims. I have marked myself out through sympathetic language as being "possibly in the enemies camp." This is why this would-be pro-active discourse is agonizingly loving dumb. Racism doesn't depend on language, it depends on beliefs. It creates it's own language, and when those terms are rendered into taboos, it makes more. The sum is the same. A word goes into style and then comes back out. 30 years of screaming racist at people has gotten some serious progress made toward getting racists to engage in serious self-reflection, but there is little room left on that front for progress if you're still chiseling away at the hope for some perfectly inclusive word or phrase and not the actual source of the stereotyping going on. Here's a thing from Pat Sajak. You can look at the things he says or you can look at that important context and flavor of what he said. "On my game show recently, an African-American contestant mentioned that he could teach anyone to be a Hip-Hop singer. I leaned over to him and stage-whispered, ‘I’m sorry, but I’m hopelessly Caucasian.’ It was a joke on me and my lack of ‘hipness’ and my white bread image, but I found myself re-examining the line later. Was I engaging in stereotyping? Could my remarks have been offensive? Would viewers be uncomfortable with what I said? I decided it was a harmless (and somewhat amusing) little comment, but it was the fact I gave it any thought at all that troubled me.” I believe people want to focus on addressing language are overly concerned with exposing impurity or anti social motives in people than by actually engaging the person behind the language. I can say black people and I will from now on if it is that big of a deal. I would hope that in recognition of this I can stop being called an apologist racist white supremacist.
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Scent of Worf posted:Bernie bros are really mad atm that some journalists were in touch with the Clinton campaign during the primaries. So what's the end game? Like, 100 years in the future when men make 77% of women's wages and when police arrest and shoot more unarmed nonviolent whites than blacks, do we reverse course and say no white person can be racist, no man should earn 77% of what a woman earns? Then 100 years after that reverse course again? What's the end-game? I know that just treating everyone the same is definitely racist of me.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:What's the end-game for this poo poo? You say Bernie bros but if I said Clinton queens that's sexist right? I can't call a small, fierce lady "feisty," because it's sexist, I know that much is true. Some adjectives can only be used for certain race groups and not others, black people can't be racist etc. The end game is to think and listen, so these ideas stop looking arbitrary to you and you can see the philosophy underpinning them. Calling a short, assertive woman "feisty" isn't bad because someone handed a list of banned words down from on high, it's bad because commenting on people's bodies and factoring that into how you accept how they express themselves is bad. If you're having trouble navigating this landscape it's because you won't take the blindfold off.
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Lamb Chowder posted:Boy this is cute. Breakin' out the Sajak, nice. Also at this point we've moved on from language and are more making fun of you for being a pedantic little dweeb.
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Lamb Chowder posted:This is why this would-be pro-active discourse is agonizingly loving dumb. Racism doesn't depend on language, it depends on beliefs. Yes it does. A lot of people who act and behave racistly do not openly consider themselves racists or do not even realize they are contributing to racist behavior. This includes a lot of people in this thread including myself who likely have repeated phrases without thinking about it. I used the phrased gyped for years without even thinking about the origin but I can tell you the fact I used it wouldn't make it any less goddamn uncomfortable if I said it to a Romani person. Racist isn't about intention. Many people can support racism just by repeating and going along with it without thinking about it. You are a racist. I am a racist. A lot of people in this thread have racist ideas we don't even think about. The key is not going "No, gently caress YOU, I'm not RACISt and stop telling me I am!" but going "Oh, huh, maybe I need to stop doing that." Instead you doubled down on making sure everyone knew that YOU weren't racist and gently caress YOU people telling me I'm racist.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:What's the end-game for this poo poo? You say Bernie bros but if I said Clinton queens that's sexist right? I can't call a small, fierce lady "feisty," because it's sexist, I know that much is true. Some adjectives can only be used for certain race groups and not others, black people can't be racist etc. If we get to the point where women have taken over the earth and horribly horribly oppress men then yes, we should probably reverse course and make sure that men are equally represented in society as well. For some reason I don't think we are going to get to that point.
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Lamb Chowder posted:Boy this is cute. Pat Sajak: noted expert on race relations.
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Lol, Trump just hosed up on his signature #DrainTheSwamp policy, said the opposite of what he meant: "I'm also going to push for a constitutional amendment to oppose term limit on all members of Congress." *crowd bursts into rapturous cheers, because who cares what he actually says*
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Wildeyes posted:A new article on Jezebel takes us inside a "Women For Trump" rally: http://theslot.jezebel.com/women-for-trump-want-to-know-if-he-hated-women-so-much-1788069782 
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Lamb Chowder posted:Boy this is cute. for a guy who's trying to act like he knows a lot about language you sure do not understand the implications of calling a black woman's concerns about racism 'cute.'
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NathanScottPhillips posted:So what's the end game? Like, 100 years in the future when men make 77% of women's wages and when police arrest and shoot more unarmed nonviolent whites than blacks, do we reverse course and say no white person can be racist, no man should earn 77% of what a woman earns? Then 100 years after that reverse course again? What's the end-game? I know that just treating everyone the same is definitely racist of me. lol if you think this would ever happen.
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Nessus posted:So have the Republicans learned literally nothing? It would seem that (((THE EMAILS))) have already been litigated to the point where there is in fact not going to be anything in them, and while I realize their purpose is to make the various deplorables screech and experience rage, grilling Bill over his affairs didn't accomplish anything. They're relying on a cooped up British dude's shop publishing stuff by Russian hacking groups at this point. You do the math.
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