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iospace posted:Could be worse, could be Toyota's version of the Smart Car with these stickers: Or the Aston Martin version.
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iospace posted:Could be worse, could be Toyota's version of the Smart Car with these stickers: I am sad this is in my state.
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A cobalt had the FWD lap record at buttonwillow for years.
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TotalLossBrain posted:A coworker of mine has a 2016 SS. It's a nice car with plenty of power and good brakes. He got it for 10k off MSRP, but that still put it at 39k so...
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iospace posted:Could be worse, could be Toyota's version of the Smart Car with these stickers: If you see a WCEC sticker on a car. Stay far away from the owner and car.
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Something something Homer: http://jalopnik.com/1788103372
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Funzo posted:I am sad this is in my state. The parking lot at WCTC is good for finding poo poo like this. It's crazy.
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Humphreys posted:Something something Homer: That man looks exactly like the man I'd picture driving this car if I just saw this car. Like, if you showed me a picture of this car, and told me to imagine the person who would drive it, it would be that man. Amazing.
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  Well. It certainly doesn't have a roof.
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heffray posted:GM screwed up by naming their LS3 sedan after many years of
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Octopus Magic posted:Both of those cars were garbage no matter what drivetrain and Bryan Nesbitt deserves to be tarred and feathered. Was he the reason Pontiac grilles looked like knockoff BMW grilles, and every Pontiac looked boring and samey in the front?
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heffray posted:GM screwed up by naming their LS3 sedan after many years of awful FWD "sporty" cars. Well they named it "G8" before and then they closed Pontiac. The VE/VF Holden Commodore is a loving great car, but US GM is determined to loving tank it, I swear.
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N is for Nipples posted:FTFYT  idiots are bitching about.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Well they named it "G8" before and then they closed Pontiac. The VE/VF Holden Commodore is a loving great car, but US GM is determined to loving tank it, I swear. Because Americans at GM hate real fun and only wanna drain the pockets of JC Whitney shoppers.
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angryrobots posted:GM uses it currently for the Camaro, and had the SS Trailblazer and Silverado at the same time as the FWD cars you  You're right, the Trailblazer is definitely the kind of truck that needs a Super Sport designation, as it is a sports car after all. No, I can't think of anything sportier than a 1/2 ton truck built on a platform that never had a single manual transmission. What's even sportier is how poorly it handled due to its hosed center of gravity that made it rival the Suburban and the Explorer in its ability to corner. You're definitely not helping prove the point that using SS as a blanket trim package for all vehicles instead of using it specifically for its sports cars and sport sedans devalued the SS name. No sir
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The trailblazer SS probably handled better than the 60s impala SS or chevelle SS. It was probably faster in a straight line, too. Compare that to the malibu maxx SS which was.....the malibu maxx ss 
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And before that it was on the f body ls1 camaro, which at the time had a huge following and I assume you find worthy, but have pretty much been abandoned at this point (edit: actually literally abandoned to become drivetrain donors for more interesting cars), and would probably get it's rear end kicked stock-for-stock by a turbo cobalt ss around anything with a corner. You are making the assumption that the SS moniker had any value at any time, or was anything other than a trim level. Which it was, and is.... Except in the case of the poorly named American market Commodore. Chevy is great at putting together excellent drivetrains and sticking them in poorly designed ill-fitted and finished bodies with dumpster fire interiors, and at that the modern SS trim level cars carry the tradition well. angryrobots fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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I wonder why we never got SS cars here in Germa--- oh, right
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jamal posted:A cobalt had the FWD lap record at buttonwillow for years. That certainly makes up for wanting to wear a bag over your head while driving it.  "HEY GUYS THIS CAR HAS THE BEST FWD LAPTIMES AT BUTTONWILLOW, ITS NOT JUST A CAR THAT IS SUB-KIA LEVEL DESIGN!!!" Octopus Magic fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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wayfinder posted:I wonder why we never got SS cars here in Germa--- oh, right
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angryrobots posted:And before that it was on the f body ls1 camaro, which at the time had a huge following and I assume you find worthy, but have pretty much been abandoned at this point (edit: actually literally abandoned to become drivetrain donors for more interesting cars), and would probably get it's rear end kicked stock-for-stock by a turbo cobalt ss around anything with a corner. Ok, I think we can all get behind this statement. I was thinking about marketing their Corvette sedan as the SS being meaningless to the average consumer after the HHR, Mali-Maxx, and Trailblazer SS packages, and probably detrimental to the success of a car people seem to like, but every muscle car guy I know would get a hard on any time we saw anything classic with those chrome S's on it. I thought it actually meant something, but I should have known better than that
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 You could get the SS TRIM PACKAGE on any 75 or 76 Nova (including the straight six and 3-speed wheeze-o-matic) but assuming you checked all the sporty boxes you would get yourself a 4 on the floor pushed by a mighty 165 hp tree-fiddy! Stop muddying the SS name with your wrong wheel drive GM! 
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SS is to Muscle Car guys as Type R is to 90s/early 2000s Riceboys. I would totally buy a Honda Odessey Type R
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InitialDave posted:You joke, but that's exactly why they're called Jaguar now. Originally Swallow Sidecars, which became SS Cars, which became Jaguar in 1945 as it "cannot be connected or confused with any similar foreign name". Holy crap 
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TRD Avalon
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:TRD Avalon  ///M
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Humphreys posted:Something something Homer:
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It doesn't surprise me that GM named the Commodore the SS when they imported it. They haven't marketed it, and they never planned to. They only brought it to compete in NASCAR, and they had to sell 5000 stateside to be able to do that. After that they could give a poo poo less. The only reason they even keep selling them is the ridiculous reviews they inevitably got led to some industry pressure. GM is going to be shuttering Holden in a year or two anyway (can't remember which), and with that, we'll have lost one of the last real bastions of quality GM muscle car design. For fucks sake, the 2010 to 2015 Camaro is the Aussie designed Zeta chassis used in the Commodore (and thus the G8). After that, it's going to be Corvettes and Camaros forever.
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Uhhhh... the Chev SS is just a Commodore SS. GM just removed the Commodore bit. Commodore SS has been a thing since.... ummm.... at least the VN Commodore in 1988. Aint our problem if the Yanks dont recoginse a Commodore's V8 designation.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Uhhhh... the Chev SS is just a Commodore SS. GM just removed the Commodore bit. Commodore SS has been a thing since.... ummm.... at least the VN Commodore in 1988. I know I was just saying that it just shows how little they gave a poo poo about things like "marketing" and "confusing the consumer" etc.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Uhhhh... the Chev SS is just a Commodore SS. GM just removed the Commodore bit. Commodore SS has been a thing since.... ummm.... at least the VN Commodore in 1988. Holden used SS badging on 70's Torana's & HQ's When it appeared again in the late 80's it was a throwback to those. Before that there was GTS badging on the early Monaros.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:They only brought it to compete in NASCAR, and they had to sell 5000 stateside to be able to do that. Of all the reasons that the SS was brought to the states, bringing it over for NASCAR use is nowhere near the list.
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Seriously, you know that one of the NASCAR "cars" is the Camry, right?
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Eh that's the story I heard, shows what happens when you don't fact check. What was their reasoning for bringing an ace car like that and not marketing it at all then? Edit: as a matter of fact, that was the basic reasoning reported when the car first came online in the US. https://www.yahoo.com/news/bp/2014-chevrolet-ss-aussie-built-nascar-races-america-050213874.html Just one of a number of articles I found. Riot Carol Danvers fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:Eh that's the story I heard, shows what happens when you don't fact check. What was their reasoning for bringing an ace car like that and not marketing it at all then? A "performance" car with a GM auto and styling bland enough to be confused for the rental-trim malibcobapalawhatever, but, and this is evidently very important, with the same tires that Ferrari uses. Oh and the standard GM interior, costing ~$50K. How would a company whose latest commercials include "hey guys our cheap car's headlights sort of look like an Audi's if you squint right" market that at all?
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Naturally Selected posted:A "performance" car with a GM auto and styling bland enough to be confused for the rental-trim malibcobapalawhatever, but, and this is evidently very important, with the same tires that Ferrari uses. Oh and the standard GM interior, costing ~$50K. How would a company whose latest commercials include "hey guys our cheap car's headlights sort of look like an Audi's if you squint right" market that at all? It's a souped-up version of what was designed as a rental/fleet/cop-mobile - not surprising it shows
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wayfinder posted:Holy crap At least they got rid of that design and gave themselves a name change. This is a UK based 'fashion' label (that makes utter shite) 
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Olympic Mathlete posted:At least they got rid of that design and gave themselves a name change. This is a UK based 'fashion' label (that makes utter shite) Intentional, actually. They're a bunch of counterculture hipster dicks and one of their first prints was a silkscreen of Hitler's face.
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