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cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



Nessus posted:

He does not DUMP, he does not BLOW rear end, he does not DROP THE PAKLEDS OFF AT THE POOL, he does - not - have - a digestive tract!

To become a thing is to know a thing. To assume its form is to begin to understand its existence. 💩

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Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Nebakenezzer posted:



Comes with glop bucket! sleeping vessel:



e2: it was packaged in 1995, which means poor Odo was unsold for 20 years.

Isn't that the outfit Mirrior Universe Odo wears?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Kibayasu posted:

Isn't that the outfit Mirrior Universe Odo wears?

No, that's his original uniform. They didn't add the turtleneck collar until season three.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

remusclaw posted:

Does Odo ever even use a phaser?

He does in the mirror universe (before he gets blown the gently caress up)

(actually it was probably a disruptor but whatever)

Marshal Radisic
Oct 9, 2012


Kibayasu posted:

Isn't that the outfit Mirrior Universe Odo wears?

It looks more like the uniform he had during the first two seasons. After the first mirror universe episode, Auberjonois liked the costume he had, so the costuming people redesigned his regular uniform to fit more like that one.

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

Marshal Radisic posted:

It looks more like the uniform he had during the first two seasons. After the first mirror universe episode, Auberjonois liked the costume he had, so the costuming people redesigned his regular uniform to fit more like that one.

I'm pretty sure Nana Visitor had the same opinion about her mirror universe costume.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

The Dark One posted:

I'm pretty sure Nana Visitor had the same opinion about her mirror universe costume.

And thank god for that.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Number_6 posted:

I stand by the best cut of TMP being the ABC-TV released for VHS "special longer version."

The directors cut DVD is ruined by all the soundtrack changes--the original alert sounds and computer voice warnings are mostly stripped out.

Is this the only cut with the "Is this all that I am?" speech with Spock? Because I consider that scene necessary to the film.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Cat Hatter posted:

Is this the only cut with the "Is this all that I am?" speech with Spock? Because I consider that scene necessary to the film.

I'm pretty sure that bit is in all 3 major versions (Theatrical, Extended, Director's)

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

macnbc posted:

I'm pretty sure that bit is in all 3 major versions (Theatrical, Extended, Director's)

I saw one without it recently and was kind of pissed at its absence. Its the whole loving point of that long-rear end movie (aside from Big E porn).

Cat Hatter fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Oct 24, 2016

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

cenotaph posted:

To become a thing is to know a thing. To assume its form is to begin to understand its existence. 💩

To understand you solids, I replicated a whole "mess of buffalo wild wings," consumed the lot and then simulated violent diarrhea.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Cojawfee posted:

To understand you solids, I replicated a whole "mess of buffalo wild wings," consumed the lot and then simulated violent diarrhea.

Prophets help us if he researches early 21st century Earth and discovers a certain preoccupation with pantshitting.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Now I'm imagining Odo making GBS threads violently into his bowl and then someone walks in so the part of him he sprayed out jumps up to rejoin.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Odo is confused after reading about teabagging and creates some very curious anatomy.

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.
"Hey, let's check out the Trek thr---"

cenotaph posted:

To become a thing is to know a thing. To assume its form is to begin to understand its existence. 💩

Cojawfee posted:

To understand you solids, I replicated a whole "mess of buffalo wild wings," consumed the lot and then simulated violent diarrhea.

Cojawfee posted:

Now I'm imagining Odo making GBS threads violently into his bowl and then someone walks in so the part of him he sprayed out jumps up to rejoin.

:yikes:

Never change, Trek thread. Never change.

ENT, on the other hand, could stand to change. I am limping toward the end of season one. There's just so few characters I'm interested in. Archer is aggressively uninteresting, which is a remarkable thing to so with an actor like Scott Bacula since he's pretty good at mild comic acting. Maybe he's just too mild-mannered to be a badass spaceship captain. My wife keeps saying, "I don't want to salute that man. I want to give him a hug."

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Railing Kill posted:


ENT, on the other hand, could stand to change. I am limping toward the end of season one. There's just so few characters I'm interested in. Archer is aggressively uninteresting, which is a remarkable thing to so with an actor like Scott Bacula since he's pretty good at mild comic acting. Maybe he's just too mild-mannered to be a badass spaceship captain. My wife keeps saying, "I don't want to salute that man. I want to give him a hug."

It's OK to just stop watching and rewatch DS9 instead. It doesn't get much better and none will judge you

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Someone hacked Patrick Stewart's Twitter account this morning and turned it into a porn bot of spam for a moment.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

FlamingLiberal posted:

Someone hacked Patrick Stewart's Twitter account this morning and turned it into a porn bot of spam for a moment.

It's too late. I've seen everything.

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'

Railing Kill posted:

Maybe he's just too mild-mannered to be a badass spaceship captain. My wife keeps saying, "I don't want to salute that man. I want to give him a hug."

Watching it for the first time myself my wife had similar thoughts. Now I can't get the image out of my head of Enterprise returning to Earth and the Admiralty awarding Archer with a medal of a gold star that says "You Tried" on it.

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

FlamingLiberal posted:

Someone hacked Patrick Stewart's Twitter account this morning and turned it into a porn bot of spam for a moment.

This seems totally In keeping with what I know of Sir Patrick

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Railing Kill posted:

ENT, on the other hand, could stand to change. I am limping toward the end of season one. There's just so few characters I'm interested in. Archer is aggressively uninteresting, which is a remarkable thing to so with an actor like Scott Bacula since he's pretty good at mild comic acting. Maybe he's just too mild-mannered to be a badass spaceship captain. My wife keeps saying, "I don't want to salute that man. I want to give him a hug."

I think the thing that makes the show uncomfortable to watch for me is witnessing Scott Bakula basically struggling to figure out what the gently caress he is supposed to be doing practically every single moment. I really sense him discovering on camera that the writers didn't know what to do with his character the entire run.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Drink-Mix Man posted:

I think the thing that makes the show uncomfortable to watch for me is witnessing Scott Bakula basically struggling to figure out what the gently caress he is supposed to be doing practically every single moment. I really sense him discovering on camera that the writers didn't know what to do with his character the entire run.

One thing I will say for Voyager: When Mulgrew figured this out she at least doubled down on the schizo captain acting.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
ENT really should have doubled down on the "Dubya in Space" aspect for Archer.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Big Mean Jerk posted:

ENT really should have doubled down on the "Dubya in Space" aspect for Archer.

I'm reminded of that image from reddit posted earlier in the thread, about how zany the federation is.

Ent blew the opportunity to show a ship full of space rednecks (honestly, that's what humans are compared to vulcans) getting in weird loving situations and then having to report back to earth. "You found WHAT? And then the ship fell through a portal to WHERE? And now we're at war with WHO?!?"

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
ENT should have doubled down on something. Anything. The big problem with the show is that it tries on a lot of hats, but doesn't want to buy one. It's sort of a prequel about the birth of the Federation, but oh hang on let's put some fanservice from the sequels there like the Borg and Ferengi and "shields polarized dick plating at 27% captain". It's sort of a fanservice show, but it's also trying to get back to the roots of the franchise and tell a no nonsense story about tough white western men exploring the space episode by episode. It's kind of an episodic Wagon Train to the stars show, but it also wants to have big season long plot arcs. It wants to have overarching plots like the Suliban/Cold War and the Xindi, but every plot and every character has the depth of a teaspoon. It has no plot and no characters worth giving a gently caress about, but wants to address a weighty subject like the birth of the federation, like how people of different races, cultures, and upbringings can come together in friendship for the greater good. But they don't even have the balls to show a speech about it.

gently caress Enterprise. Jonathan W Archer would have been a much better show.

Drink-Mix Man posted:

I think the thing that makes the show uncomfortable to watch for me is witnessing Scott Bakula basically struggling to figure out what the gently caress he is supposed to be doing practically every single moment. I really sense him discovering on camera that the writers didn't know what to do with his character the entire run.

Basically this, but for everyone involved with the production instead of just Scott Bakula.

skasion fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Oct 24, 2016

Pikestaff
Feb 17, 2013

Came here to bark at you




I'm another person who also recently started watching Enterprise and yeah, I'm finding it very lukewarm so far. At least VOY had the Doctor and also Janeway who turned into a real force of nature by the end of the show. With ENT I'm having a hard time caring about... pretty much anyone.

It also seems really anticlimactic to have this weird Human Values vs. Vulcan Values subplot when we all know they're gonna be best friends next century.

Oh also here's some aliens that are super important to the early Federation but that you'll never see again in the "future".

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:
Jeffrey Coombs should have murdered Archer and kept the ship for himself

#ShranDidNothingWrong

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

macnbc posted:

Watching it for the first time myself my wife had similar thoughts. Now I can't get the image out of my head of Enterprise returning to Earth and the Admiralty awarding Archer with a medal of a gold star that says "You Tried" on it.

Do it shitpostbot style

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Pikestaff posted:

Oh also here's some aliens that are super important to the early Federation but that you'll never see again in the "future".

This never bothered me because that's the way the world works.

Who were the major players in Europe 300 years ago? England, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Prussia, and the Ottoman Empire? Germany, Italy, the United States, (modern) Russia, and the United Kingdom didn't even exist.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

Sash! posted:

This never bothered me because that's the way the world works.

Who were the major players in Europe 300 years ago? England, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Prussia, and the Ottoman Empire? Germany, Italy, the United States, (modern) Russia, and the United Kingdom didn't even exist.

Yeah but... the people whose ancestors lived in those countries still EXIST...

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Sash! posted:

This never bothered me because that's the way the world works.

Who were the major players in Europe 300 years ago? England, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, Prussia, and the Ottoman Empire? Germany, Italy, the United States, (modern) Russia, and the United Kingdom didn't even exist.
While Spain and Portugal have definitely lost their luster, the Netherlands and Prussia remain influential. "Germany" and "Italy" were conceptually present if not yet fully integrated... the United States, not yet, of course. However, I figure any absence of Xindi or whatever in the background just indicates that they became part of the Federation and not necessarily a remarkable part. Maybe they had their own ships, like the fuckin Vulcans.

Meanwhile, DS9 trip report. I've gotten up to The Wire and then the mirror universe episode.

The Wire is amazing in all ways. Garak is a hell of a character to the point of being perhaps my favorite individual Star Trek character. It also gave Bashir a lot of weight and gravitas which his goofy rear end has usually been lacking when he isn't in a fully functional role. Of course he immediately throws it all away to nag at Kira in...

Mirror Universe Episode (didn't catch the title) was much less awful than I had expected. While Kira did camp it up, I felt like this was simply her due as someone who has to work with Avery Brooks. Kira (the normal Kira) is an interesting character and in a way I think she is defined by her limits, in a way which is rather rare. She is not somehow built in to be destined for greatness: she is comfortable in a subordinate role and indeed at times in season 1 it felt like Sisko was kind of browbeating her (although he browbeats everyone at times).

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.
Between DS9 chat and chat about how much Archer is a human potted plant, this has been a rough page for my will to continue ENT. Maybe I'll look up a watch list because god drat do I have better poo poo to do than the sci fi equivalent of watching paint dry.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


His favorite fruit is pineapple! What amazing character development.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Railing Kill posted:

Between DS9 chat and chat about how much Archer is a human potted plant, this has been a rough page for my will to continue ENT. Maybe I'll look up a watch list because god drat do I have better poo poo to do than the sci fi equivalent of watching paint dry.

The actual star of Enterprise is Shran.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I'm sad we didn't get a season 5 where he would have been a main crew member. I think Manny Coto said that was their plan.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

FlamingLiberal posted:

I'm sad we didn't get a season 5 where he would have been a main crew member. I think Manny Coto said that was their plan.

Season 5 with First Officer Shran (or whatever) plus that bomb-rear end NX refit that actually looked like a Starfleet ship... :jackbud:

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

When people go on about the buttugly refit as something they wanted, it makes me glad Enterprise was cancelled.

WarLocke
Jun 6, 2004

You are being watched. :allears:

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

When people go on about the buttugly refit as something they wanted, it makes me glad Enterprise was cancelled.

Why does your username have to be such a good book but your opinions Aatrek-level?

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

WarLocke posted:

Why does your username have to be such a good book but your opinions Aatrek-level?

Well, that escalated quickly.

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
I don't have quite the visceral hatred of the NX-refit concept, but some of the story concepts I remember hearing about for the fifth season were really groan-worthy.

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