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Slio posted:If he doesn't play Geist, one of those mountain bolts kills the Spirit and he's got nothing that can attack for lethal. oh duh, you're right, this is why i don't play tournament Magic haha
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Mezzanon posted:Post that list! Bant Spirits, and Top 32 overall. One the one hand it's another drat archetype putting Hierarchs out of my reach, but on the other hand he's running Steel of the Godhead which owns so w/e.
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Oct 24, 2016 00:45
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Rinkles posted:It's a pile of good cards that was a good metagame call for the PT. I don't think this is GW tokens 2.0 (in terms of long term dominance) quite yet, but it's obviously powerful and a quite flexible shell, having game against basically everything on the field. The deck is so great. The vehicles matchup is great. It's favored against everything. I wish I was as good a player as this deck is a deck. I really punted away a terrific finish at 6-1 up in Prov...
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https://twitter.com/bens8528/status/790294334864261120 My spirit animal. I have the complete 75 of this spirits deck. I might sleeve it up.
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Oct 24, 2016 01:44
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I got to kill a guy with his own Aetherworks Marvel. I think I should just dump my collection and get out of Standard, it can only be downhill from there.
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C-Euro posted:Bant Spirits, and Top 32 overall. I recently played the u/w version of this deck to pretty decent results, and looking at this the only cards I'm missing are 2x steel of the godhead. Downside: now more people are going to be prepared for this deck.
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Oct 24, 2016 02:08
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/bens8528/status/790294334864261120 how is it wrong to punish bribery
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Oct 24, 2016 02:49
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ZeroCount posted:how is it wrong to punish bribery It's not, it's basically cheating. If WotC focused more on card cheats and cracked down on clear bribery instead of trying to stop people using proxies or people who want to enjoy playing on MTGO I certainly would be happier.
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Oct 24, 2016 02:52
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ZeroCount posted:how is it wrong to punish bribery Because the tournament guidelines are incredibly arbitrary and tend to punish people who don't know how to game the system.
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Myriad Truths posted:Because the tournament guidelines are incredibly arbitrary and tend to punish people who don't know how to game the system. Only because those guidelines are too lenient. A match where just happens to concede to the other, and the winning player just happening to give ~75% of their prize to the player that conceded in plain view of the tournament organizer, should throw up some red flags. The fact is, though, that that's fine right now, as long as both players have their stories straight and neither player admits and nobody overhears either player establishing that the prize split is contingent on one player conceding to the other.
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Oct 24, 2016 03:49
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Sickening posted:Remember folks, RIP has a trigger when it comes into play. Kent just sharked his opponent on camera when he moved a card that was in his graveyard to exile and moved it back stating that his opponent forgot to verbally say the trigger. One could argue he was going through the moves of exiling his card in effort to get his opponent to make a mistake. Always say it in comp rel. Looking forward to an [O] acknowledgement of the unwritten shortcut policy this falls under. I mean: I play RiP. I see my opponent resolve the trigger because we both know why I played this card. I don't say anything because my opponent is already doing what the card says. Moments later, he says nevermind, and the card's back in his yard. Seems pretty clear what I'd rule if I were walking up to this table, and whether or not the opponent has been an above-board fine upstanding moral Magic citizen his entire career (as people are arguing for Kent on social media) has nothing to do with it.
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BJPaskoff posted:Looking forward to an [O] acknowledgement of the unwritten shortcut policy this falls under. I mean: I play RiP. I see my opponent resolve the trigger because we both know why I played this card. I don't say anything because my opponent is already doing what the card says. Moments later, he says nevermind, and the card's back in his yard. Seems pretty clear what I'd rule if I were walking up to this table, and whether or not the opponent has been an above-board fine upstanding moral Magic citizen his entire career (as people are arguing for Kent on social media) has nothing to do with it. Did his opponent move his graveyard? Because if he did then the ruling was 100% wrong. You can't resolve half of a trigger. Is there a video of this anywhere?
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suicidesteve posted:Did his opponent move his graveyard? Because if he did then the ruling was 100% wrong. You can't resolve half of a trigger. Is there a video of this anywhere? The judge asked the rip player to repeat his last turn. He verbally repeated the turn without mentioning the trigger confused why he was being asked. The judge then ruled against him. The justification being that the player didn't protest his opponent exiling his card or mentioning a trigger. I imagine because believed it was obvious game state (just like everyone watching). It's basically the dumb pithing needle issue all over again. They need to change the ruling of the card to not be missable. Common sense judging would also help.
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Oct 24, 2016 04:09
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suicidesteve posted:Did his opponent move his graveyard? Because if he did then the ruling was 100% wrong. You can't resolve half of a trigger. Is there a video of this anywhere? https://clips.twitch.tv/scglive/RelievedStinkbugMrDestructoid Kent moved his graveyard. That's fact, here's some assumptions based on body language: Frank turns as if he's looking at the graveyard being moved, but as soon as Kent's arm is extended all the way, Frank goes and fiddles with his lands because that's what Magic players do. Kent takes that opportunity to move the card back into his yard, and Frank notices something's amiss. Kent gives the half-hearted thumbs up I've seen Magic players give a thousand times where they want to let their opponent make a misplay. Frank goes "What?" and Kent points out that he "missed" the Rest in Peace trigger.
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/bens8528/status/790294334864261120 Gonna be interesting to see if Tiu gets a long suspension. BJPaskoff posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/scglive/RelievedStinkbugMrDestructoid Kent moved his graveyard. That's fact, here's some assumptions based on body language: Frank turns as if he's looking at the graveyard being moved, but as soon as Kent's arm is extended all the way, Frank goes and fiddles with his lands because that's what Magic players do. Kent takes that opportunity to move the card back into his yard, and Frank notices something's amiss. Kent gives the half-hearted thumbs up I've seen Magic players give a thousand times where they want to let their opponent make a misplay. Frank goes "What?" and Kent points out that he "missed" the Rest in Peace trigger. Speaking of suspensions, I hope Ketter gets one for this nickel and dime poo poo. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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BJPaskoff posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/scglive/RelievedStinkbugMrDestructoid Kent moved his graveyard. That's fact, here's some assumptions based on body language: Frank turns as if he's looking at the graveyard being moved, but as soon as Kent's arm is extended all the way, Frank goes and fiddles with his lands because that's what Magic players do. Kent takes that opportunity to move the card back into his yard, and Frank notices something's amiss. Kent gives the half-hearted thumbs up I've seen Magic players give a thousand times where they want to let their opponent make a misplay. Frank goes "What?" and Kent points out that he "missed" the Rest in Peace trigger. What the gently caress? It was still the RiP player's turn, he couldn't possibly have missed that trigger because nothing loving happened! That's some bullshit.
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BJPaskoff posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/scglive/RelievedStinkbugMrDestructoid Kent moved his graveyard. That's fact, here's some assumptions based on body language: Frank turns as if he's looking at the graveyard being moved, but as soon as Kent's arm is extended all the way, Frank goes and fiddles with his lands because that's what Magic players do. Kent takes that opportunity to move the card back into his yard, and Frank notices something's amiss. Kent gives the half-hearted thumbs up I've seen Magic players give a thousand times where they want to let their opponent make a misplay. Frank goes "What?" and Kent points out that he "missed" the Rest in Peace trigger. That's fjucked up
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Lottery of Babylon posted:By Devotion do you mean the RTR-Theros standard, starring Sphinx's Revelation, or the Theros-KTK standard, starring Siege Rhino and GW Devotion? g/w devotion wasnt even the third best devotion deck
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Oct 24, 2016 04:20
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BJPaskoff posted:https://clips.twitch.tv/scglive/RelievedStinkbugMrDestructoid Kent moved his graveyard. That's fact, here's some assumptions based on body language: Frank turns as if he's looking at the graveyard being moved, but as soon as Kent's arm is extended all the way, Frank goes and fiddles with his lands because that's what Magic players do. Kent takes that opportunity to move the card back into his yard, and Frank notices something's amiss. Kent gives the half-hearted thumbs up I've seen Magic players give a thousand times where they want to let their opponent make a misplay. Frank goes "What?" and Kent points out that he "missed" the Rest in Peace trigger. oooookay that's a super obvious cheat and it's dumb that the judge ruled the way he did anyway since RIP is the easiest missed trigger to resolve since the graveyard state doesn't change from after casting
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rabidsquid posted:g/w devotion wasnt even the third best devotion deck by the time GW and GR Devotion were good monoblack and monoblue devotion were out of commission
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Oct 24, 2016 04:37
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Remember to read every card you play out loud like a yugioh character so this doesn't happen to you
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Oct 24, 2016 05:05
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This is sorta maddening in part because competitive courtesy seems to involve expediting as much of your turn as possible, ie not wasting time declaring a trigger when your opponent is already responding to it.
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See, I play out everything in competitive rules level events because I try to avoid any confrontations or confusion about things. Because some fucker's going to call me out on it if I don't spell every loving thing out to them and try to get a judge call against me for it.
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Oct 24, 2016 05:27
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https://twitter.com/Boss_MTG/status/790410154089021440
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u no gotta be honest not super in love with mtg drama altho i understand it has a place in the thread
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why can't more people be like LSV and Caleb Durward and just love life and each other
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Hellsau posted:Only because those guidelines are too lenient. A match where just happens to concede to the other, and the winning player just happening to give ~75% of their prize to the player that conceded in plain view of the tournament organizer, should throw up some red flags. The fact is, though, that that's fine right now, as long as both players have their stories straight and neither player admits and nobody overhears either player establishing that the prize split is contingent on one player conceding to the other. No, it has nothing to do with being too lenient and everything to do with being unenforceable nonsense.
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mandatory lesbian posted:why can't more people be like LSV and Caleb Durward and just love life and each other because 99% of nerds are the loving worst
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mandatory lesbian posted:oooookay that's a super obvious cheat and it's dumb that the judge ruled the way he did anyway since RIP is the easiest missed trigger to resolve since the graveyard state doesn't change from after casting quote:I asked the table judge [Ken Bearl] about the ruling as I thought that Kent moving the graveyard meant the trigger would resolve. The judge told me that neither player had mentioned that the graveyard had been touched. If that information was given he would have ruled the other way.
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Ross insulted Hoogland's receding hairline and Hoogland dissed Ross's leather jacket. They're gonna meet in the Octagon next SCG Open. I hope they get paired up against each other in a feature match next SCG event. Whole thing is kinda weird because Ross seems much more laid back than his twitter activity tonight. I wonder if some words were exchanged at the Open this weekend
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Oct 24, 2016 05:49
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Dehtraen posted:Ross insulted Hoogland's receding hairline and Hoogland dissed Ross's leather jacket. They're gonna meet in the Octagon next SCG Open. I hope they get paired up against each other in a feature match next SCG event. The dude is well known as "Boo Hoo-gland" so you should just assume Tom Ross is a boss and that Hoogland was being a hooligan.
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is it a mtg pro community thing to all have twitter pictures of cartoon versions of themselves? I don't follow any of them and only enjoy the drama flareups. Please tell me it's a thing.
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Chill la Chill posted:is it a mtg pro community thing to all have twitter pictures of cartoon versions of themselves? I don't follow any of them and only enjoy the drama flareups. Please tell me it's a thing. Tom Ross's is his token card art, because he's actually won something. Hooglands is a cartoon.
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Chill la Chill posted:is it a mtg pro community thing to all have twitter pictures of cartoon versions of themselves? I don't follow any of them and only enjoy the drama flareups. Please tell me it's a thing. Several of them are their representations on SCG tokens. 
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