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Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.

Fojar38 posted:

Japan is sufficiently stable, cosmopolitan (at least in the big cities), and good that you're unlikely to find stories in the same vein as Chinar or Corea

Lol

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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Whoah for a few pages I was certain IŽd accidently entered the LAN thread

Man, I wish we still had Modest Mao, Pro-PRC Laowai and TWM posting

Hey Hey Hey Leave LAN ALONE

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the best part about japan is going to all the animal islands.
There is are islands for cats, deer, bunnies, and foxes. Also the monkey hot springs.

The cat and bunny islands are my favorites

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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:justpost:

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
I think Haier had an old Japan story from his dad, and I assume that Japan in like the 50s/60s produced some pretty crazy stories.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

ladron posted:

Satisfied?

Yes, very.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

He's right though, Japan really isn't on the same level as China or Korea.
I mean, while China was having the cultural revolution Japan was being run by Americans so it just kinda figures things would be a little better.

:smug:

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
I'm actually thinking of accepting an offer that would have me moving to Korea in the middle of next year.

I spent a few weeks in Seoul and I thought it was very nice! Huge, clean, modern and with decent food plus beer and friendly people!*

*none of this seemed to apply I the 80% of the city that still looked like 1970s Japan

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


ladron posted:

First, before anyone can eat, this woman shows a powerpoint and a video about her department, which 99% of the people there work in and don't want to see a video about, in really broken English, because even tho she is in charge of the English speaking staff and the required English classes every student needs to take, she doesn't loving speak it.

while the video is going on, everybody is getting shitfaced. Angry shitfaced, which exists in korea in a way you can never understand unless you've been there. Angry shitfaced on soju, the angriest of liquors (sorry tequila and vodka, but it's true) on totally empty stomachs. Everybody includes this woman.

Finally, she finishes, after -no poo poo- 90 minutes, and everyone beelines for this buffet for their ice cold food.=

this is so working in Asia and just reading it makes me furious

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


TsarZiedonis posted:

Korea

decent beer

oh you sweet innocent child.



(now that there's craft beer there are drinkable things but paying $10 for a beer sucks)

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

oh you sweet innocent child.



(now that there's craft beer there are drinkable things but paying $10 for a beer sucks)

It's gotten better, some enterprising young Koreans are making decent beer now that can be had for maybe $7 in a few places

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

Haier posted:

People joke, but I remember this being all over the internet and in some newspapers when people figured it out (forgive the source):

http://www.naturalnews.com/032718_L-cysteine_commercial_bread.html


EDIT: Enjoy your supermarket bagels. I guess we are all a little bit Chinese, eh?

who was the china goon who had "too good to eat human hair" as his av?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Haier posted:

People joke, but I remember this being all over the internet and in some newspapers when people figured it out (forgive the source):

http://www.naturalnews.com/032718_L-cysteine_commercial_bread.html


EDIT: Enjoy your supermarket bagels. I guess we are all a little bit Chinese, eh?

I don't know, these two sentences seem dubious together:

quote:

other sources of L-cysteine include chicken feathers, duck feathers, cow horns and petroleum byproducts.

Most of the hair used to make L-cysteine is gathered from the floors of barbershops and hair salons in China, by the way.

Poultry plants have a vast quantity of feathers all in one place. Each barber shop produces a paltry amount of hair, and they are dispersed all over a city, so gathering it is going to be inefficient. Even if some L-cysteine is sourced from human hair, it seems doubtful that most of it is.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Grand Fromage posted:

this is so working in Asia and just reading it makes me furious

This reminded me of about a million long, boring, pointless presentations whose only function was to let the admin fellate themselves. But it also reminds me of a few dozen after-hours school functions that I had to attend while in Korea which all involved mandatory binge drinking, and were never not a riot.

- Principal projectile vomiting on his dick while trying to use the urinal.
- An admin guy trying to pick up the principal's mistress (an admin lady at the school)
- Watching a Korean teacher pick up a cigarette he dropped into a puddle of urine under a urinal, and put it back in his mouth, then look confused when it wouldn't light.
- Two members of the parent's committee getting into a cat fight.
- A Korean teacher waving his fist in my face because I had the nerve to smoke an expensive Cigar in front of the principal, while he was only smoking regular cigarettes.
- A Korean teacher (male) trying to kiss a foreign female teacher (Chinese) in the hallway of the restaurant by backing her into a corner. She managed to dodge him.
- Going to a bar and getting a bad batch of Dong-Dong-Ju (rice wine) and nearly all of the staff puking on the side of the street while waiting for taxis.
- The foreign Japanese teacher locking herself out of her apartment at the school in her underwear (it was 3am and she was putting the garbage in the bin at the end of the hall to be picked up in 4 hours), and knocking on my door for help. I had to climb across two balconies 8 floors up to get into her room and open the door for her.
- An elderly admin guy getting drunk, getting off the elevator on the wrong floor (7th floor was the girl's dorm, 8'th floor was the teacher's apartments) and leaving a massive mound of vomit in the middle of the hallway. I'm talking a pile that would fill your average bucket of KFC. This was a long weekend as well, so it stayed there for 4 days and apparently came off in one solid piece.
- Me switching a Lucky Strike for one of the Chinese Foreign teacher's cigarettes in his pack while he wasn't looking, and him immediately puking after one puff.
- A Korean teacher being so drunk that he forgot how to speak Korean while doing Karaoke, and just grunting some pop song.
- Me being drunk enough to let them convince me to get up and do a Karaoke song (apparently I just nailed Elton John's "Your Song".
- The Korean teacher who was in charge of the English department asking me which one of the three female Korean teachers in my office I found the most attractive (right in front of them). I was pretty drunk, so I said something along the lines of, "that's like trying to find the most beautiful rose in a bouquet, when what you should really be doing is just admiring the beauty of it". (this was my ticket into "Korean teacher's Ladies night" for the remaining 4 months of my stay, which was a real eye opening experience*).
- A severely hung over staff littering the slopes of Mt. Soyosan with vomit during a mandatory hike at 7:00am.
- Female Korean teachers forgetting that they "don't smoke" and then crying when everyone notices.


Luckily, Korea has an unwritten rule that whatever happens during drinking sessions, is never spoken of again, and cannot be held against you.

*closest I will ever be to a "gay friend" from a movie, and got to see how Korean women act when there are no Korean men around.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Stringent posted:

He's right though, Japan really isn't on the same level as China or Korea.
I mean, while China was having the cultural revolution Japan was being run by Americans so it just kinda figures things would be a little better.

:smug:

yeah, well so was korea, and at least half of it still is, and I will testify that the vast majority of it is really kinda hosed up in an almost a gods must be crazy kind of way of dumping vast amounts of money, infrastructure, and technology on a bunch of 농부and then microwaving it for 50 years or so...

TsarZiedonis posted:

I'm actually thinking of accepting an offer that would have me moving to Korea in the middle of next year.

I spent a few weeks in Seoul and I thought it was very nice! Huge, clean, modern and with decent food plus beer and friendly people!*


If you want some hoonest trutrh about why that might or might not be a good idea, fell free to ask here, or you can email me anopnymously if you want. username at hotmail. I think everyone would prefer it if you did it here, you knopw, for entertainment reasosn.

EDIT

Blistex posted:


war stories


see, this is a man who has clearly been in korea.

ladron fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Oct 24, 2016

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Grand Fromage posted:

oh you sweet innocent child.



(now that there's craft beer there are drinkable things but paying $10 for a beer sucks)
It's like $10 for a pint here in Malaysia too and everything is either carlsberg or heineken or tiger or slightly wrong-tasting hoegaarden. If craft beer exists in this country it's really good at hiding. There are some places with bottles of Belgian/German stuff but I'm not gonna pay $20 for a Duvel :shepface:

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Blistex posted:

I'm here from the future to tell you about the success and integrity of the CCP-Social Network.

<pays official few thousand RMB to bump score>
<spams some nationalist crap on forum to bump score>
<watches a LPG storage tank explode and posts a picture online, takes a hit to his score>
<buys 500 copies of 3 RMB book on why the party is great to bump score>
<runs over homeless guy while drunk, takes a hit to his score>
<pays official a few hundred thousand RMB to bump score>
<is the son/daughter of an official, score is permanently set to highest>
<has same name as popular dissident who has an article published in the HK times, score is set to lowest>
<opens up lucrative business where out of work WOW Gold Farmers will brute-force your for money>
<is hit by a drunk official's car while crossing at an intersection at the appropriate time, score is set to lowest after not taking 3000 RMB bribe for two broken legs>
<factory boss is getting close to being caught embezzling money. Pays an official to drastically reduce assistant's score to make him look untrustworthy and take the fall>
<wechat's with foreigner, takes a hit to score>
<lives in apartment Block 12, unit #1989. Posts address on social media so coworkers can come over for a party. Takes a massive hit to points>

In this system would I win or lose points for having 10,000 hours on Steam

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Phlegmish posted:

In this system would I win or lose points for having 10,000 hours on Steam

How rich are your parents?
Are they connected to the party?

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Blistex posted:

*closest I will ever be to a "gay friend" from a movie, and got to see how Korean women act when there are no Korean men around.

Go on...

Also, are your experiences due to the fact that you work in the bureaucratic environment of the Korean education system? Would things be different/better in a small private sector firm? (I'm assuming Samsung, Hyundai etc are just as bureaucratic) because this makes me appreciate China, and not a lot of things do.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

fish and chips and dip posted:

Go on...

Also, are your experiences due to the fact that you work in the bureaucratic environment of the Korean education system? Would things be different/better in a small private sector firm? (I'm assuming Samsung, Hyundai etc are just as bureaucratic) because this makes me appreciate China, and not a lot of things do.

for real, I have seen businessmen sleeping next to piles of vomit on the steps of their office buildings, using their loving shoes as a pillow, because the boss made stay out drinking all night. I have seen this MULTIPLE THOUSANDS OF TIMES.

#blackoutkorea is a real thing that really exists for a real reason

EDIT - but yeah, tell us about korean ladies night....

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

ladron posted:

for real, I have seen businessmen sleeping next to piles of vomit on the steps of their office buildings, using their loving shoes as a pillow, because the boss made stay out drinking all night. I have seen this MULTIPLE THOUSANDS OF TIMES.

#blackoutkorea is a real thing that really exists for a real reason

EDIT - but yeah, tell us about korean ladies night....

This definitely happens in Japan, along with puking/passing out in the trains, but it doesn't seem to be as widespread as y'all are saying it is in Korea.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Stringent posted:

This definitely happens in Japan, along with puking/passing out in the trains, but it doesn't seem to be as widespread as y'all are saying it is in Korea.

I kinda got the vibe tho that FOR REAL unlike koreans the japanese were pretty chill drunks tho...c/d?

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
I was munching on my lunch and reading about ways China can kill me. Here's one I had forgotten about :

https://draxe.com/aflatoxin/

quote:

Aflatoxin is a type of mold that is considered a human carcinogen. It’s found in certain commonly eaten foods including peanuts, peanut butter and corn, and is most harmful in parts of the world where people consume large amount of these foods, such as Asia and Africa.
...
Of the 13 species, the type called aflatoxin B1 is considered the most toxic, capable of causing health problems such as liver disease or cancer, autoimmune responses, digestive issues and in rare cases even death. (2) Research has shown that consuming aflatoxin through the food supply is one of the major causes of liver disease (specifically the type called hepatocellular carcinoma) in certain countries such as China and Africa.
...
The strains of aflatoxin most common in foods include B1, B2, G1 and G2. After humans or other mammals consume aflatoxin metabolic processes turn then into metabolites M1 and M2 which have ” high carcinogenic potential.” International Agency for Research on Cancer has classified aflatoxin B1 as a “Group I carcinogen” that’s capable of raising the risk for cancer. (3) Aflatoxin seems to affect the ways that cells reproduce and also targets the liver, affecting the way that other substances are metabolized and eliminated, and possibly increasing food allergy reactions.
...
Additionally, once crops are picked it matters how they are handled, processed and stored, since all of these can affect whether or not aflatoxin is able to survive and thrive. Some research shows that crops being grown in humid locations such as Brazil and China are most likely to contain aflatoxin.

Found most in peanuts, corn, wheat and grains, soy beans, dried spices. Considering the way food is processed and handled in China, LOL at everyone going to die if they stay here for too long.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009
A cool thing I noticed in Korea is that the good beer scene seems very much like a scene driven by fashionable women. Like, the decent beer bars are mostly populated by thirty-something year old professional women, the sex in the city crowd. I suppose men are mostly into swilling as much cheap liquor as possible, so good beer became a chick thing? I just know that a really good way for me to ingratiate myself with my gf's friends is to bring them nice bottles of good beer and homebrew from the US.

Ballast Point sculpin was also sold st super high prices in the fancy department stores and its definitely not the first time I've seen that brand marketed in Asia as some kind of super luxury beer, their international distribution must be super on point

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Haier posted:

I was munching on my lunch and reading about ways China can kill me. Here's one I had forgotten about :

https://draxe.com/aflatoxin/


Found most in peanuts, corn, wheat and grains, soy beans, dried spices. Considering the way food is processed and handled in China, LOL at everyone going to die if they stay here for too long.

I'm counting down the months until I'll leave, just 9 months, just 9 more months.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Why do you care about carcinogenic fungi, you'll be dead from heavy metal poisoning long before you have to worry about cancer.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

TsarZiedonis posted:

A cool thing I noticed in Korea is that the good beer scene

dyde for real if you are moving to Korea hoping to enjoy the "beer scene" tgen I got some bad news for you

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

ladron posted:

I kinda got the vibe tho that FOR REAL unlike koreans the japanese were pretty chill drunks tho...c/d?

Well the society as a whole is p big on the notion of not creating a nuisance for surrounding people, so that would help create that impression. On the other hand there's signs on train platforms asking people to refrain from headbutting and throwing liquids on the station conductors so there's a pretty big range of variation I guess.

JacksAngryBiome
Oct 23, 2014

ladron posted:

I kinda got the vibe tho that FOR REAL unlike koreans the japanese were pretty chill drunks tho...c/d?

The Japanese tend to be very happy drunks. 12 years in Japan, plenty of it spent drinking with friends, coworkers, bosses, and strangers, and I have only seen one fist fight. It was between drunk fat salary men on a train at 7am.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here
Yeah, only people I've seen getting pretty rowdy in Tokyo have been Marines and Australians. It wasn't uncommon to see a drunk older guy screaming at people at the bigger stations around midnight or so, but that's about all I can think of.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

JacksAngryBiome posted:

The Japanese tend to be very happy drunks. 12 years in Japan, plenty of it spent drinking with friends, coworkers, bosses, and strangers, and I have only seen one fist fight. It was between drunk fat salary men on a train at 7am.
I always LOL when those r/China "Have you been in a fight in China?" threads come up and 90% of it is "Some jealous guy at a bar sucker punched me and then 20 Chinese guys joined hands and stomped me and my friends half to death." The other 10% is due to traffic reasons.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS

JacksAngryBiome posted:

The Japanese tend to be very happy drunks. 12 years in Japan, plenty of it spent drinking with friends, coworkers, bosses, and strangers, and I have only seen one fist fight. It was between drunk fat salary men on a train at 7am.

Year 2000 I had a Japanese guy drunkenly yell at me on the train and basically say it was shameful that Japan lets foreigners into the country, this was during bonenkai, my Japanese friends escorted him off at the next station. Never seen anything remotely resemble a fight or angry drunks since that. Holy poo poo there is alot of street peeing and train puking during bonenkai and shinenkai tho.

JacksAngryBiome
Oct 23, 2014
For reference, bounenkai literally translates to "forget the year party." You go out with your coworkers and bosses and everyone drinks to forget. It's a purging event.

I appreciate everyone's China stories in this thread in this here thread.

Heer98
Apr 10, 2009

ladron posted:

dyde for real if you are moving to Korea hoping to enjoy the "beer scene" tgen I got some bad news for you

Oh, I know. Ive been teaching myself home brewing in preparation.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

TsarZiedonis posted:

Oh, I know. Ive been teaching myself home brewing in preparation.

you might want to post in the korea thread, I think some dude there homebrews:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3716519

The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.
I'm flying into Ho Chi Minh City tomorrow and have a date with a girl almost exactly my age who works in marketing at a global corporation. My plan is to have some drinks and have her help me explore the city for the next few days and learn something from a local. Help me, China thread, am I a sex tourist?

McKilligan
May 13, 2007

Acey Deezy
The korean beer scene is pretty decent these days - In Itaewon/Noksapyeong (the foreigner heavy areas) you can get something pretty drat decent brewed on Jeju for 6 bucks (Or you could get 3 bottles of soju or 4 bottles of Makgeoli for about the same price). There's a lot of "craft beer" places around that all serve the same stuff made by a larger company, but there's enough new stuff that you don't have to look hard to find a decent beer.

Basically if you wanted a place specifically designed to kill alchoholics/heavy smokers with kindness, Korea is pretty much it.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

The North Tower posted:

I'm flying into Ho Chi Minh City tomorrow and have a date with a girl almost exactly my age who works in marketing at a global corporation. My plan is to have some drinks and have her help me explore the city for the next few days and learn something from a local. Help me, China thread, am I a sex tourist?

yup, congrats

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

The North Tower posted:

I'm flying into Ho Chi Minh City tomorrow and have a date with a girl almost exactly my age who works in marketing at a global corporation. My plan is to have some drinks and have her help me explore the city for the next few days and learn something from a local. Help me, China thread, am I a sex tourist?

Are you asking the drive by howlers, the resident wet blankets, or anyone else?

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The North Tower
Aug 20, 2007

You should throw it in the ocean.

Sheep-Goats posted:

Are you asking the drive by howlers, the resident wet blankets, or anyone else?

Yes.

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