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80s James Hetfield posted:Um, did you miss the Mountain vs. The Viper like a season ago?! In GoT it's "OMG, the guy I like is going to win! Oh gently caress! He's dead..." It's a huge momentum swing in the entire series. And it happens rather quickly. In TWD, we're introduced to a guy we know is evil. They took 15-20 minutes to introduce us to Negan in the last episode. Then they take another 10 to reintroduce him. They the draw out the initial reveal by like 15-20 minutes. Then we finally get to see the death and it works like this: "He's crushing his skull." "Still crushing it." "Still crushing it." "Still crushing it." "Still crushing it." "Still crushing it." "Still crushing it." "Still crushing it." Wait... Yep, still crushing it. OK, he's done. "Nope, crushing another guy's skull." "Now here's a close-up." "And another." "And another... "....And some more...." So they took half an episode to tell me something I already know and resolve the cliff-hanger from last season. That's a really lovely way to treat your audience.
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Slept on it, and after an incredibly unsettling dream that involved my bf and a bat and subsequently waking up shaking. I'm done with this show. Thanks for the ride.
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Oct 24, 2016 16:18
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Spermanent Record posted:It's not torture porn (and neither is the French version of Martyrs) I mean it's been a minute since I've watched Martyrs but I'm pretty sure that's a pretty big instance of torture porn. 
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Oct 24, 2016 16:20
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Johnny Truant posted:I mean it's been a minute since I've watched Martyrs but I'm pretty sure that's a pretty big instance of torture porn. Nah, it's literally the opposite of torture porn in that it's meaningful, has an emotional grounding and isn't just about getting the audience off on fetishised suffering. The focus on 'Lucille' in TWD is far more pornographic than the purposeful violence in Martyrs.
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Oct 24, 2016 16:33
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Hot Pockets posted:I think this is the biggest problem I really want to see a conclusion, but from how the writers/director talk about it, they plan on dragging it out for years. I just want to know how the story ends. Yes, it's an incredibly stupid idea.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Slept on it, and after an incredibly unsettling dream that involved my bf and a bat and subsequently waking up shaking. I'm done with this show. Thanks for the ride. Posts like this are hilarious, as was Chris Hardwick introducing Talking Dead last night with a sad face and somber tone. It's a tv show guys, they're fictional characters. Nobody actually died lol
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Oct 24, 2016 16:46
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Also I don't buy the whole "all of this was just to show that Rick is a broken man" So how many times can this be trotted out as a plot point? He's been "broken" like 7 times now.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Slept on it, and after an incredibly unsettling dream that involved my bf and a bat and subsequently waking up shaking. I'm done with this show. Thanks for the ride. Haha, your dreamscape told you about yourself and now you want to run away to a better fitting fantasy. Enjoy those puffy clouds and sterility ote="Unzip and Attack" post="465692539"] Also I don't buy the whole "all of this was just to show that Rick is a broken man" So how many times can this be trotted out as a plot point? He's been "broken" like 7 times now. [/quote] He was just show boating to michonne, "the world is ours, we jus gotta take it" no Rick the world is huge and you're late to the party Hardawn fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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tadashi posted:Yeah, except in TWD, I already saw a guy's skull get crushed 10 minutes earlier. I loving get it. Are you kidding? Seeing Shirreen get burned alive in GoT was 100x worse than this. It was dragged out, lasted forever, it was being done to a child, and they devoted 30 minutes of build up to it. What's more, it didn't make any sense for the character to do it, or that he would be so dumb not to see what would happen as a result, so it really felt like it was done just to shock people.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Also I don't buy the whole "all of this was just to show that Rick is a broken man" I mean that's pretty much the only card the show has ever played so...
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JazzFlight posted:Rick and the gang were in a completely unwinnable situation. I dunno how you think they wouldn't have been broken with the leverage Negan had over them right then. I'm just thinking, after Negan finally lets Rick back into the trailer with the axe, he has his back turned to him, and Rick could have cut his head open, taken control of the trailer and ran the whole Savior pack down. Negan's men could be doing gently caress knows what to his group back in the forest, and Negan himself could be completely full of poo poo about letting any of them live after how much Rick has gone after them and how many of their men he's killed and outsmarted. But no, we need angst and a totes badass villain, so everybody needs to be a goddamn blubbering crybaby. For an entire goddamn episode. And yeah, I get they're trying to make Negan look impressive, but this is not the way to do it. Even at its worst, this show has always been head and shoulders above the comic. The show took a random group of unforgettable dudes from the comic and made them the Claimed group, filled with wit and personality. The cannibals in the comic were just a group of nomads that ambushed vulnerable people, they weren't an organized honey trap of a community that was broken time and time again to fill out several episodes with action and excitement, and showed just how determined both sides were. Couldn't the show have deviated from what everyone was expecting and surpassed the comic once again, or at the very least had the courage to go its own way, instead of desperately trying to outrun its predecessor?
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sd6 posted:Posts like this are hilarious, as was Chris Hardwick introducing Talking Dead last night with a sad face and somber tone. It's a tv show guys, they're fictional characters. Nobody actually died lol glenns career in america died
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IMB posted:I mean that's pretty much the only card the show has ever played so... I disagree here. One of the themes I have enjoyed about the show is the loyalty of the group vs. outsiders, or whether or not the group has been tainted by too much time "out there" to be able to settle down and live a normal life again- and what that normal life would look like when building society from scratch. Those are interesting ideas. Watching two men beat to death and then rooting for Rick to Get Even isn't.
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some guy on the bus posted:Are you kidding? Seeing Shirreen get burned alive in GoT was 100x worse than this. It was dragged out, lasted forever, it was being done to a child, and they devoted 30 minutes of build up to it. What's more, it didn't make any sense for the character to do it, or that he would be so dumb not to see what would happen as a result, so it really felt like it was done just to shock people. That whole season was terrible though. I don't know anyone that thought Stannis's S5 arc was particularly well done. At least S6 seemed to be a couple of steps forward (and one back) in the right direction.
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Shitenshi posted:They've dealt with Negan types before. They've been cornered in that kind of poo poo situation before, actually worse if you count being corralled into a trailer by a bunch of thugs with guns who later turn out to be loving cannibals and immediately moved to having your head over a feeding trough while people are getting batted in the skulls and their throats slashed one by one without any warning. That's not even getting into everyone being held at gunpoint while some guy is getting ready to go Deliverance on Carl. When people complain about this thing being torture porn, they aren't talking about the relentless gore, they're talking about how exploitative this thing is and the show expects you to buy in on its way of overcompensating after breaking its promises time and time again, as if a stupid copout of a cliffhanger that lasted for several months could actually be made right, let alone by making up for it with cheap thrills and jury rigged storytelling. The world has gone to poo poo, they've seen the worst of humanity multiple times both within their own group and out, lost people over and over again, and somehow they're still lucid enough to be good people, or at least recognize when their own flock are going bad. What really can break them? Negan spends like 24 hours in order to get 10 people to submit to him, 1 of which is pregnant and might be dying, and their only assets he really knows of are their RV and an easy-to-overrun "home base"? He's the most ineffective leader ever... some guy on the bus posted:Are you kidding? Seeing Shirreen get burned alive in GoT was 100x worse than this. It was dragged out, lasted forever, it was being done to a child, and they devoted 30 minutes of build up to it. What's more, it didn't make any sense for the character to do it, or that he would be so dumb not to see what would happen as a result, so it really felt like it was done just to shock people. I loving hated that episode and bitched about it in that thread plenty, but the idea was he was sacrificing her to win a kingdom and it was used to show just how desperate he was and that he'd given up on himself which is a little different than smashing two people's heads to pieces to impress a small group of people. Also, that character in GoT was going to die horribly one way or another, given the circumstances and we all thought Stannis was a bad-rear end motherfucker, in a good way, right up to that scene. tadashi fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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I won't believe Glen is dead until he is good and buried. For all we know he's in a coma from the skull bashing. Abraham on the other hand you can clearly see his head bashed in and gutted out. End Communication.
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VoLaTiLe posted:Didn't see any dumpster or objects he could crawl under so my guess is that he's Brown bread. If you look closely in one of the shots you can see him motioning his fingers downwards to suggest he deftly maneuvered himself under a pile of leaves during the attack. He's fine, don't worry. You probably missed the part where they show the cast happily enjoying a summer gathering sometime in the future.
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I wanted to stop watching this show after the last season finale, but my girlfriend wanted to keep going. Now she wants to stop after Glenn's death, but said she'll watch the episode where Negan dies. I was actually pretty impressed by this episode, but I finally have an out. I'm free.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Slept on it, and after an incredibly unsettling dream that involved my bf and a bat and subsequently waking up shaking. I'm done with this show. Thanks for the ride. lol ok fine, you win, I'm not done with this garbage show just yet.
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Glenn's been a boring sad sack character for at least two seasons, so that death did nothing for me. I liked Abe, but his death was telegraphed as soon as the show did its usual "Look at all this character development we decided to finally write!" bullshit towards the end of last season. Negan, Eugene, Carol & Morgan are the only vaguely interesting characters on this show right now, so hopefully Glenn and Abe getting their melons Gallagher'd will open things up for some fresh blood.
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I was pretty high when watching this and actually got excited for a second when it looked like they were braining half the cast until they showed eugene getting it and I thought "okay now this is bullshit"
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Sorry haters that was a good episode of TV. tadashi posted:Negan spends like 24 hours in order to get 10 people to submit to him, 1 of which is pregnant and might be dying, and their only assets he really knows of are their RV and an easy-to-overrun "home base"? He's the most ineffective leader ever... It's almost like on some level Negan enjoys the display. Perhaps there is even a psychosexual element to it? Nah *loving close up on Negans dripping bat*
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ozmunkeh posted:If you look closely in one of the shots you can see him motioning his fingers downwards to suggest he deftly maneuvered himself under a pile of leaves during the attack. He's fine, don't worry. You probably missed the part where they show the cast happily enjoying a summer gathering sometime in the future. oh yeah i completely forgot about the head looks like a scrambled egg but the fingers are still twitching scene 
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The Whining Thread Yes, Greg Nicotero is a bad director and Gimple should know that by now, but the episode did it's job. At least it's a better jumping-off point than "bad plan to pied-piper a zombie hoard out of a quarry goes badly".
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Orange Red Bull posted:oh yeah i completely forgot about the head looks like a scrambled egg but the fingers are still twitching scene No, some raspberries he had brought on the journey for a snack just rolled out of his jacket pocket. It was only on screen for a few frames, many people seemed to have missed it.
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People aren't happy no matter what happens I guess. Fans bitched and wanted to see it happen, so they did it.
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ozmunkeh posted:No, some raspberries he had brought on the journey for a snack just rolled out of his jacket pocket. It was only on screen for a few frames, many people seemed to have missed it. he was trying to find maggie 
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I haven't watched this show since the beginning of season 4, is it better yet?
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Deakul posted:I haven't watched this show since the beginning of season 4, is it better yet? No. There are so many better shows to watch.
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Deakul posted:I haven't watched this show since the beginning of season 4, is it better yet? Feel free to skip to the last episode. Actually the last two episodes. Start watching at last year season's finale. You would not have missed much. You'll still recognize all of the major characters. tadashi posted:I loving hated that episode and bitched about it in that thread plenty, but the idea was he was sacrificing her to win a kingdom and it was used to show just how desperate he was and that he'd given up on himself which is a little different than smashing two people's heads to pieces to impress a small group of people. If it had been done to scare a group of people and make Stannis the main villain of the next season, then there would have been a point to it. Instead it just made him look dumb, since how could he not see most of his people would abandon him after it? The book character saw that. This is much more meaningful and makes more sense.
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If Negan was really evil he would have made Aaron eat some applesauce
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moist turtleneck posted:If Negan was really evil he would have made Aaron eat some applesauce I would be sO fuckin DONE w this tortch porn dude
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sd6 posted:Posts like this are hilarious, as was Chris Hardwick introducing Talking Dead last night with a sad face and somber tone. It's a tv show guys, they're fictional characters. Nobody actually died lol Chris Hardwick is THE WORST.
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at the beginning of the terminus season when those guys got knocked out with a baseball bat and then their throats slit with a machete everyone loved it because the season prior was another wandering around and character building one yall got an episode where poo poo happened and wanna get hung up on gore in the zombie apoc
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:The best perspective is actually writing a letter to whoever poo poo bird dreamed up this show and letting him now that it's taken a turn for the disgusting and we're tired of it. I demand to speak to your manager!
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mcmagic posted:Chris Hardwick is THE WORST. Jealousy sucks. He's doing everything a lot of people in this thread wished they were. He gets to meet all these people - heroes to some nerds - and they are all buddy buddy with him. He's married to a gorgeous woman who lets him indulge in all this nerd fantasy poo poo. He owns and operates a hugely successful podcast / company. He's turned his life around big time from being an alcoholic slob.
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Vintersorg posted:Jealousy sucks. He's doing everything a lot of people in this thread wished they were. He can still be THE WORST though. edit: my av 
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Chris Hardwick is the best. Ordinarily I would hate it if there was a talk show right after with the actors out of character telling you it was fake because it would break immersion and suspension of disbelief. But they make it sound so real, it actually doesn't detrack from it.
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:He can still be THE WORST though. Having a nightmare? 
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