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BULBASAUR posted:SRM posts pictures of his pretty man dolls and I am mad he has man dolls for all his special mans. At least the new direction they are taking is consistent and looks good. That won't cure us, it's rooted too deep to remove now. Bitter within, Bitter without.
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So I'm just looking at the new Word Bearers rite in boom 6 - the one that lets you take Gal Vorbak as troops and give drop pods to everyone - and noticed there's nothing restricting it to Traitors like the new Night Lord or Emperor's Children rites. So, that's interesting. Most likely an oversight, but handy if you want to run a drop pod oriented loyalist Word Bearers force. Probably not an awful lot of loyalist Gal Vorbak hanging around, though. Shazaminator fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Oct 24, 2016 |
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Oct 24, 2016 23:36
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There ain't no such thing as loyalist Word Bearers.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:05
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I made the same mistake once when looking through the rules and seeing that none of the named characters or special units for Word Bearers had the "Traitors only" special rules. Then my friend pointed out that the Word Bearers themselves have the traitors only special rule applied to everything.
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Oct 25, 2016 00:23
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DJ Dizzy posted:Are you a fan of scythes? This is an important question. 
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Oct 25, 2016 00:39
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Oct 25, 2016 01:26
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I've been waiting for custodes since 30k was announced, before we even know custodes were coming, so this is extremely my poo poo
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Oct 25, 2016 01:33
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Those guass rifle things would look great on a dodo dread
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Oct 25, 2016 02:48
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You can take my Anvillus battery from my cold dead hands
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Oct 25, 2016 04:32
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I'm thinking a replacement for the lascannon things
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adamantium|wang posted:This is an important question. Scythes are a thing of beauty, I love the Grim Reaper look.
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BULBASAUR posted:SRM posts pictures of his pretty man dolls and I am mad he has man dolls for all his special mans. At least the new direction they are taking is consistent and looks good.  Speaking of, I forgot to post pictures of them from Armies on Parade:     I got silver; I think I would have gotten gold but the Necron guy brought a way nicer display board than me that I think really cinched it: 
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Oct 25, 2016 06:16
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Shazaminator posted:So I'm just looking at the new Word Bearers rite in boom 6 - the one that lets you take Gal Vorbak as troops and give drop pods to everyone - and noticed there's nothing restricting it to Traitors like the new Night Lord or Emperor's Children rites. They're pretty much the only traitor Legion not able to really be loyalist as they get none of their special rules. They had too long in the Eye and on the Pilgrimage to have any loyalist elements left.
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So I was going to get back into 40k but my group has talked me into doing 30k instead, I'm torn between redoing my imperial fists from scratch or going death guard. I know fists will be bolters and more bolters. And I know death guard are rad and phosphex weapons all over. Is that it or are thier more toys worth taking for each one?
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Oct 25, 2016 12:59
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This was covered in the last page or so. Some good posts.
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Ezekiel_980 posted:So I was going to get back into 40k but my group has talked me into doing 30k instead, I'm torn between redoing my imperial fists from scratch or going death guard. I know fists will be bolters and more bolters. And I know death guard are rad and phosphex weapons all over. Is that it or are thier more toys worth taking for each one? The Fists are pretty much vanilla space marines+. Phosphex is a fun way to mess with objectives but I'm not sure how much better Death Guard's Phosphex is. I really like the Sons of Horus and their aggressive close combat focus (both shooting and brawling). I've set aside some MKIV marines and drop pods to paint green once I finish my main Fist force.
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Oct 25, 2016 13:34
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DG don't really have "better" phosphex. If anything, they've got better flame weapons with Chem-munitions. They're a bit more resistant to phosphex and other poison/fleshbane weapons as they get a 4+ FNP against them. They do, however, have some of the best termi weapons in the form of the power scythes. The -1 I penalty isn't that bad considering their AP2 will hit before most other AP2 weapons. They also have easier access to rad grenades with The Reaping ROW.
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Oct 25, 2016 15:01
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I know their focus is on getting Book VII out but have they said anything about similar delays in Book VIII? I'm hoping that would have the final BA/DA rules in it and I'm kind of up in the air about which one to go with. I mean I kind of lean towards Blood Angels now and then but then I remember the cost of 30k jump packs. Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Oct 25, 2016 15:17
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Blood Angels get +1 to Wound in CC across the board. While assault marines are pretty drat good for the cost tactical squads with the extra CCW would still kick all kinds of arse with that bonus.
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Oct 25, 2016 15:32
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Besides, assault marines are good now
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Oct 25, 2016 17:47
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I know their focus is on getting Book VII out but have they said anything about similar delays in Book VIII? I'm hoping that would have the final BA/DA rules in it and I'm kind of up in the air about which one to go with. They havent even begun to work on VIII. They said it's definitely not coming out in 2017.
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DJ Dizzy posted:They havent even begun to work on VIII. They said it's definitely not coming out in 2017. Oh, really? Honestly that could be a really good thing--lets them catch up with production, have a good long experimental rules test period, do an Imperial Armour, etc. And it gives me time to catch up on my purchases, including the books themselves.
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Oct 25, 2016 23:56
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And make some more Iron Warriors kits lol
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Oct 26, 2016 00:34
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Would I be considered insane for wanting to make a zone mortalis board that's the outside hull of a ship. Can break up the LoS with gun ports, the statuary, ripped up armor plates from ordinance or a impassible hole from a lance strike.
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Oct 26, 2016 00:49
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I, on the other hand, want my legion's actual rules. Keep the books rolling.  Seriously though, Forge World seems overwhelmed right now. They could use some downtime to catch up. I think the Custodes tank is the one of the first new sculpts we've seen in a long time, right? I mean, how long were the Mastodon and Stormbird teased? Maybe with some of those huge models out of the way we'll see some infantry again. Those weapon upgrades probably should've been out a while ago too. I seem to recall some mention that they lost a couple of their mold makers in a car accident (?) earlier this year and that that has been leading to a lot of delays which is totally understandable. I know I heard that on some 30k podcast.
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Is anyone going to the open day? I'm going with a friend on the Sunday. I'm tempted to pickup the custodes deodetank for a small allied detachment for my fists. Maybe.
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Sulecrist posted:Oh, really? Honestly that could be a really good thing--lets them catch up with production, have a good long experimental rules test period, do an Imperial Armour, etc. And it gives me time to catch up on my purchases, including the books themselves. They pushed back IA 14 for book VII. They lost a couple of their sculptors/mold-makers in a car accident. So yeah.
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DJ Dizzy posted:They pushed back IA 14 for book VII. They lost a couple of their sculptors/mold-makers in a car accident. So yeah. Holy poo poo really?
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Oct 26, 2016 03:48
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They were responsible for the Iron Warrior upgrade kit
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Hencoe posted:Holy poo poo really?
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Hencoe posted:Would I be considered insane for wanting to make a zone mortalis board that's the outside hull of a ship. Can break up the LoS with gun ports, the statuary, ripped up armor plates from ordinance or a impassible hole from a lance strike. Sounds awesome and there used to be rules specifically for this. For that kind of board I would use the Cold Void optional ZM rules and the old zero gravity rule or something similar. The 0G rules where something like all running moves, assault moves or 7"+ moves count as moving through dangerous terrain without saves of any kind (representing flying off into space), if you really want to have some fun with it allow void capable flyers in the game but remove the ability to Jink (too much space debris around or something). krursk fucked around with this message at 09:03 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Hencoe posted:Would I be considered insane for wanting to make a zone mortalis board that's the outside hull of a ship. Can break up the LoS with gun ports, the statuary, ripped up armor plates from ordinance or a impassible hole from a lance strike. Technically speaking ZM rules specifically represent narrow spaces like the inside of a spaceship, fighting on the outside of a spaceship's hull would be 'just' a themed regular battlefield (Having a ceiling makes a big difference for jump troops and the like). However the idea is cool as poo poo and you should totally do it - or what you could do is make it hybrid; say that you have about half total of the board's area as 'open' void on the outside of the ship and half are ZM space, as in, protrusions of the hull that've been breached into and use ZM rules.
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One of the HH books has specific rules for playing in and on spaceships. Unique stratagems too. I don't remember the exact details but there's definitely an outer hull battle setting and mission(s). I made a "quick start" document to properly learn and play ZM since the books are pretty horrible. Once I'm back home I'll drop it here. e: I need to ask, is anyone here in London? How's the HH scene there? Against my better judgement I may or may not be accepting a job there. Hail Britannia. Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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While I don't play myself, I think Lord Twisted and at least one other goon play at Dark Sphere near Waterloo. Store is okay, nothing special, staff just about tolerable. God help your senses if you go during a MTG day in winter, the humidity and body odour physically manifest into some sort of champion of nurgle.
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I'm based in East London, I'm part of an informal heresy fb group with 8 or so people, we know at least half a dozen more who play heresy. HATE (Hackney Area tabletop enthusiasts) are a nice bunch but weds eve doesn't work for me. Quite loud tho, takes getting used to. I play a lot at Dark Sphere as it's convenient. Decent place, some weirdos but it's a hobby shop you don't expect smooth talkers. If you take a job there hit me up in PMs I promise I won't be weird.
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No wonder we've never run into each other, I'm in West London and hardly ever around that area.
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Drake_263 posted:Technically speaking ZM rules specifically represent narrow spaces like the inside of a spaceship, fighting on the outside of a spaceship's hull would be 'just' a themed regular battlefield (Having a ceiling makes a big difference for jump troops and the like). However the idea is cool as poo poo and you should totally do it - or what you could do is make it hybrid; say that you have about half total of the board's area as 'open' void on the outside of the ship and half are ZM space, as in, protrusions of the hull that've been breached into and use ZM rules. Well I'm thinking it's going to be the side of the ship, instead of the top. So everything will be turned 90 degrees, with imperial ships being cathedrals in space I'm pretty sure I can make it dense enough to be a good ZM board with the "ceiling" being flying off into the void. I know there's "Blood in the void" rule but I've never seen them used. I'm pretty sure there's a chapter of "Know no Fear" that is this exact scenario.
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loving do it mate. Use the existing rules and maybe some modifiers. Would flamers work the same? Shrapnel?
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Let's pretend prometheum can burn without oxygen, and then imagine a cloud of burning death flying off forever into space until it burns itself out.
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One of the plot points in Know No Fear actually is that Imperial ships can fill a thin 'skin' around them with breathable air, kept in by force fields - this makes things like repainting the hull easier when you don't need specialized void gear for it. (If you end up boosting yourself outside of the bubble without a voidsuit, though, you're proper hosed). I also wouldn't put it past the Imperium to figure out self-oxygenated fuels (like thermite, in real life - the compound contains its own oxygen so it'll actually happily burn underwater or in a vacuum!)
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