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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-highlights-idUSKCN12P2S1?mod=related&channelName=politicsNews Trump now saying Obama should be investigated for what he knew about E-MAILS also says HRC will start WW3 in Syria 
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Oct 25, 2016 21:08
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computer parts posted:Yeah, the rich ones should be barred.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:09
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You get one cross-party endorsement that matters. Joe Liberman endorsing McCain made news, but nobody cared that he backed Romney. Powell made news when he endorsed Obama, but nobody cares now.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:09
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Ha, remember that video from this morning where he was asked about voter fraud, and he said 'ask Obama about his video from eight years ago'. He just went off about how Obama is also a phony because he saw a video from 2008 on Hannity where Obama says American politics is rigged and he knows it because he's from Chicago. I guess that's what he was talking about? Oh good, now he's doing a dramatic reading of an email from Cheryl Mills and saying it proves Obama knew beforehand about Hillary's 'illegal server' and is part of the cover-up. I think he's gonna call for Obama to be locked up as well before we get to election day. He's been speaking for nearly half an hour now and the whole thing has been the Conspiracy against him and the evils of Crooked Hillary. Nothing else.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:09
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Kilroy posted:Since you're the one who's totally fine with ridiculous legislation that provably does not do what it's supposed to do in targeting actually rich people who actually do avoid taxes by renouncing, and for which the consequences for people who fall in the "ordinary people with ordinary retirement plans" range will be pretty bad - no I think you're the one who should outline what is the goddamn point of these taxes and what, since it was brought up, what exactly the US government (and, maybe, Eritrea) is doing for its citizens that justifies it. boner confessor posted:it's incredible that you're getting upset that people don't find sympathy for your extremely unlikely scenario when you were completely willing to write off millions of us citizens who live in parts of the us you don't like
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emdash posted:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-highlights-idUSKCN12P2S1?mod=related&channelName=politicsNews Trump probably had some nice bait in that Syria angle of attack, but he waited until two weeks before the election to bring it up (Clinton herself is not going to respond to his poo poo anymore as she stated), and couldn't keep his mouth shut about anything else enough to appear competent.
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My Linux Rig posted:I'm starting to see some ridiculous poo poo on my facebook feed as the election day gets closer, but not from the side I expected: Signs point to yes.
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Kilroy posted:And yet somehow the legislation we actually have does nothing of the sort, and yet again people with modest retirement savings are the ones who get hit the hardest. On top of all the other bullshit an expat of the US has to deal with. Which you're fine with because in your zeal to gently caress over rich people - something I can more or less get behind - you don't care if what actually happens is middle class people get hosed instead and rich people are barely affected. I mean that's usually the thing that happens whenever Congress passes any law, and I'm struggling to figure out why everyone ITT is so convinced it must be otherwise in this one instance, and I guess it's just because you all have this image in your head of the only people who would ever renounce their citizenship, or live overseas at all, being John Galt types. Why should congress give a flying gently caress about making things easier for people who are renouncing America and our Democracy? gently caress um.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:11
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The difference between a foreign national opening a bank account in the US and the reverse is that the US bank personnel don't have to submit paperwork to a foreign government that carry very serious consequences for their business if they make a mistake.
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Nonsense posted:Clinton will probably change this. If she doesn't then it's worth it to keep the "Born here, You Are American" thing. 
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Also, check out that map - I wasn't aware that literally zero European countries had it unconditionally anymore That's how you get 4th generation "immigrants" who still aren't citizens.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:12
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eviltastic posted:On that note, I think that Bill Kristol may have escaped the curse by dunking on Scott Adams and forcing him to take his place. It's a ways back, but what exactly does this idiot think made "something change"?
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Oct 25, 2016 21:13
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Themagicalgoat posted:De facto, they already are except in tax havens. But for a citizen of e.g. the U.K., yeah they can move overseas and establish residency and open a foreign bank about. Obviously.
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Kilroy posted:And yet somehow the legislation we actually have does nothing of the sort, and yet again people with modest retirement savings are the ones who get hit the hardest. And you still haven't shown how many of those people actually exist. Again: saying Google
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computer parts posted:That's how you get 4th generation "immigrants" who still aren't citizens. Again.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:14
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14 days out from the election, insurmountably behind Clinton in the polls, Trump chooses to start attacking Obama. Bold strategy Cotton.
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Kilroy posted:And yet somehow the legislation we actually have does nothing of the sort, and yet again people with modest retirement savings are the ones who get hit the hardest. On top of all the other bullshit an expat of the US has to deal with. Which you're fine with because in your zeal to gently caress over rich people - something I can more or less get behind - you don't care if what actually happens is middle class people get hosed instead and rich people are barely affected. I mean that's usually the thing that happens whenever Congress passes any law, and I'm struggling to figure out why everyone ITT is so convinced it must be otherwise in this one instance, and I guess it's just because you all have this image in your head of the only people who would ever renounce their citizenship, or live overseas at all, being John Galt types. i just want to point out again that you're whining about ridiculous legislation ensuring that thousands of middle class expats aregetting hosed here, and this morning you were calling for ridiculous legislation to deliberately gently caress millions of middle class american citizens for living in red states go eat poo poo you elitist prick. gently caress your family and i hope the us government bankrupts you boner confessor fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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PhazonLink posted:Weaksauce. Take Project Pluto and make nuclear ramjet hoover cars. Not good enough. We need to make Macross real. http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/boeing-laser-powered-nuclear-fusion-engine/ 
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Oct 25, 2016 21:16
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Kilroy posted:Uh no most banks will open retail accounts for any resident of that country and you don't know what you're talking about. Unless that resident is also a US citizen and then it can get problematic because of FATCA reporting requirements. You are wrong. My personal experience proves this wrong. You need a local address and a local phone number to open an bank account in Europe. You cannot get a phone without a large amount of money or a bank account. This paradox of needing a phone to get an account or an account to get a phone is only resolved by having a large store of cash or using a foreign national account as I have explained. Just to be clear, this is an example for someone "not wealthy." You also need quite a bit of other corroborating papers to open an account. Including a UK Visa (which requires a job). Themagicalgoat fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Oct 25, 2016 |
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Kilroy posted:And yet somehow the legislation we actually have does nothing of the sort, and yet again people with modest retirement savings are the ones who get hit the hardest. On top of all the other bullshit an expat of the US has to deal with. Which you're fine with because in your zeal to gently caress over rich people - something I can more or less get behind - you don't care if what actually happens is middle class people get hosed instead and rich people are barely affected. I mean that's usually the thing that happens whenever Congress passes any law, and I'm struggling to figure out why everyone ITT is so convinced it must be otherwise in this one instance, and I guess it's just because you all have this image in your head of the only people who would ever renounce their citizenship, or live overseas at all, being John Galt types. If you have renounced your citizenship, you are by definition not an expat. The rules are different for ex-pats and renouncing.
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Instant Sunrise posted:there hasn't been a new f-zero game since bush's first term Globally, we are all losers with our lack of sick zero-g drifts. May we all come together in Mute City, friends.
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Nucleic Acids posted:It's a ways back, but what exactly does this idiot think made "something change"? He was an idiot before, he is an idiot now. Nothing has changed.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:16
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Now Trump's taking time out from explaining his economic plans to call fact-checkers, as a class, 'crooked as hell' and 'a group of dishonest scum'.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:16
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:14 days out from the election, insurmountably behind Clinton in the polls, Trump chooses to start attacking Obama. This has to be related to Obama's televised tweet own. Trump cannot allow any insult to pass, no matter how minor.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:17
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Renouncing your citizenship is considered the same as liquidating all of your assets and is specifically designed to be harsh to make sure that people aren't using it to avoid taxes. It sucks for edge cases, but they are mostly edge cases. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The requirements were specifically made harsh, because people like to live in the U.S. but do not like to pay taxes. Previously, you had people renounce their citizenship, but then spend 5 months in Manhattan a year and avoid taxes.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:18
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Kilroy posted:The limits you get before you pay income tax on assets fall well outside of "mere edge case" territory and are will within "ordinary retirement" territory. Wait so in your mind $2 Million is now "ordinary retirement?"
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Kilroy posted:The limits you get before you pay income tax on assets fall well outside of "mere edge case" territory and are will within "ordinary retirement" territory. The Facebook co-founder paid a significant upfront tax bill to renounce. The 700 million figure he saved is from future taxes, not from the tax year he renounced. That is the way it is supposed to work.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:20
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computer parts posted:Apparently pretty well since we're getting the same old "think of the
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Instant Sunrise posted:there hasn't been a new f-zero game since bush's first term https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8HcF2St9uQ&t=35s also this game may as well be an f zero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqRE2E-ChM
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Kilroy posted:Yeah I can't think of a reason anyone would want to visit a dying relative in the US for an extended period of time. wow gee it's almost like giving up your american citizenship to avoid paying taxes has negative consequences who ever could have foreseen this possibility
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Oct 25, 2016 21:21
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Hint: the average family retirement savings is $94,000. So anyone pretending that $2,000,000 is an "ordinary" retirement puts Romney to shame.
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Oct 25, 2016 21:21
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Kilroy posted:The limits you get before you pay income tax on assets fall well outside of "mere edge case" territory and are will within "ordinary retirement" territory. When people say they want examples it means they want actual specific examples not Conservapedia-style '[1] This actually happened' repeated assertions.
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Trabisnikof posted:Hint: the average family retirement savings is $94,000. So anyone pretending that $2,000,000 is an "ordinary" retirement puts Romney to shame. I'm hoping that's because the people contributing to the retirement are like 40ish? At max? Good Lord!
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Kilroy posted:Yeah I can't think of a reason anyone would want to visit a dying relative in the US for an extended period of time. If you can give up a whole month of pay to go sit by someone's bed you're pretty well off.
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Kilroy are the majority of people that want to renounce to avoid taxes more likely to vote red or blue while they're still citizens I need to know whether I should give a gently caress about them or not.
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The thing that kills me is that the candidates both knew, as did the rest of us, what the debate subjects would be, if not the actual questions. He's basically making excuses for not doing his homework
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https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/790992445202915328 That he's bending the knee after getting dunked on about his involvement in urging Hillary to set up  THE EMAIL SERVER is 
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What a shocker, the same conservative that wants to force the rural poor to bootstrap themselves doesn't want to tax multimillionaires who renounce America.
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