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Saw a bunch of talk here about a released dlc which means they might have done some bug fixing, can anyone tell me if they fixed demons souls not being on the ps4 yet?
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:34 |
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# ? Jun 4, 2024 07:31 |
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Your Computer posted:Is there a way to cheese the Crystal Sage? Clones are the ones using blue magic, the original one is using purple spells. Run at him and hit with a fast and high damage weapon (best one at this time of the game is probably a raw astora straight sword with lightning resin). If the clones are giving you trouble equip some throwing knives, they're fast and only need one hit to make a clone disappear.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:35 |
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Control Volume posted:Saw a bunch of talk here about a released dlc which means they might have done some bug fixing, can anyone tell me if they fixed demons souls not being on the ps4 yet? how do you feel about playstation now
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:36 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:dark souls 2 hosed over magic users long before the dlc was released, and they continued to do it afterwards. that doesn't matter for why people like the dlc. they liked it because the areas were better than the old areas. in fact, all of the previous souls dlc has been a step up from the base games. the areas in the ds3 dlc are good but they're not better than what's in the base game Hahahaha no it didn't there were so many magic build viable for DS2 it was amazing.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:36 |
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RBA Starblade posted:I just realized why I like the Onyx Sword so much; I spent the vast majority of my time using a Dark Claymore with Dark Weapon applied in DS2. It's basically the same thing with an even better moveset! All I need is dark orb to replace great chaos fire orb and it'll be there. pyros can use great deep soul just fine, which is basically this games dark orb.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:37 |
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Azuth0667 posted:Hahahaha no it didn't there were so many magic build viable for DS2 it was amazing. you might not actually remember the patch cycle for dark souls 2, but they nerfed every form of magic across the entire patch cycle of the game. they started off insanely good (especially faith) and were dropped from there (especially faith)
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:38 |
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Deified Data posted:Same with all Warcry weapons. The damage buff more or less makes up for that. Weird I guess I just never tried since all of my warcry weapons have been with my strength character and this was an attempt at using the axe as "sharp" and magic buffed. Speaking of which, I'm not sure why anyone would use Frozen Weapon when Crystal already exists. It just seems like a worse version and as far as I know there's nothing that's super weak to frost.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:38 |
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Iretep posted:pyros can use great deep soul just fine, which is basically this games dark orb. I never actually got it, I should go wrap up the covenant rank. quote:Speaking of which, I'm not sure why anyone would use Frozen Weapon when Crystal already exists. It just seems like a worse version and as far as I know there's nothing that's super weak to frost. Frostbite is a remarkably unthreatening ailment.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:39 |
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Azuth0667 posted:Hahahaha no it didn't there were so many magic build viable for DS2 it was amazing. nerfed in this case doesn't mean that being a spell caster was rendered completely non-viable, it just means that their overall power levels dropped from SSJ Goku to Goku while fighting Napa and Vegeta. casters were still powerful, but not completely game trivializing. except faith builds, those got dropped from SSJ4 Goku to regular Dragonball Kid Goku levels. the DS2 DLC "hosed over" casters because IIRC the innate elemental resistances for all of the DLC monsters got jacked through the roof, so you couldn't just spam dark orb and win the game.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:43 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:you might not actually remember the patch cycle for dark souls 2, but they nerfed every form of magic across the entire patch cycle of the game. they started off insanely good (especially faith) and were dropped from there (especially faith) No I remember I started with a faith guy and nuked the game then they nerfed everything so I went hexer and nuked the game again. I got bored hexing things so I tried pyro+dex and it was hilarious throwing hail Mary hidden suns for a victory. Sorcery was amazing in PVE too and amazing in PVP as soon as Ivory King hit. I miss that spell casting rapier. E: Freaking Crumbum posted:nerfed in this case doesn't mean that being a spell caster was rendered completely non-viable, it just means that their overall power levels dropped from SSJ Goku to Goku while fighting Napa and Vegeta. casters were still powerful, but not completely game trivializing. except faith builds, those got dropped from SSJ4 Goku to regular Dragonball Kid Goku levels. I think it brought them in line with other builds and was a good thing to happen. The only rear end thing that really bothered me was as you said DLC enemies having stupidly high resists.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:43 |
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I can't imagine trying to do a faith build relying on your whopping two lightning spear casts in DS2 post-patch. Especially when a single swing of your hanzo steel does more damage faster for less effort. I still remember respeccing to dex after having a mage build; one swipe of the katana took 99% of the other guy's health off lmao.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:42 |
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RBA Starblade posted:I can't imagine trying to do a faith build relying on your whopping two lightning spear casts in DS2 post-patch. It was all about the mace and being a true cleric while you buffed up your attunement .
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:44 |
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Azuth0667 posted:It was all about the mace and being a true cleric while you buffed up your attunement . Pyromancy never really got affected did it? After the patch ran sorcery into the ground (and hexes that weren't Dark Orb), I just used Dark Orb and Weapon, Great Heal, Soul Greatsword and Firestorm, and the previously mentioned claymore and the Roaring Halberd. Really it was just mostly the offensive magic, hexes and miracles that got useless (and resonant weapon, which was totally useless). Buffs and healing were still perfectly fine. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Oct 26, 2016 |
# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:45 |
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Your Computer posted:How garbage would the Onyx Blade be for a mostly melee-focused character? It has pretty good base damage and the buff on top of that, and from what I've seen if you actually pump faith and int it ends up with very comparable damage to a 40/40 greatsword when buffed. Your Computer posted:Hnnnggghhhhhh the Crow Talons are so much fun I'm incredibly pleased that they added 2 weapons which are worth using as a straight dex build even if the crow quills are almost certainly 'better'
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:46 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Pyromancy never really got affected did it? After the patch ran sorcery into the ground (and hexes that weren't Dark Orb), I just used Dark Orb and Weapon, Great Heal, Soul Greatsword and Firestorm, and the previously mentioned claymore and the Roaring Halberd. Pyromancy was pretty much always good, faith ate the biggest nerf and hexes ate a substantial nerf when they hit the abyss covenant ring.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:48 |
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Lightning Spear and its ilk suck, but Heavenly Thunder, Soul Appease, and Blinding Bolt are all fairly strong spells. It's a far sight better than DS3, at the least.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:48 |
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The way of white corona is mostly useless in pvp, but seems like it'd be really good with the right talisman in pve for crowd control. You can keep multiple of them out at once too, so at the least you can use it for zoning against players. It's fun but kind of weak. e: And I DO miss the little white circles to see where other players cast miracles to make your own imperceptibly better drat it
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:49 |
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I just had flashbacks to The Old Hunters and how many rad as gently caress areas and bosses and weapons were in it and got a little sad.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:49 |
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Vermain posted:Lightning Spear and its ilk suck, but Heavenly Thunder, Soul Appease, and Blinding Bolt are all fairly strong spells. It's a far sight better than DS3, at the least. Yeah they were heavenly thunder was really good. I was not a fan of blinding bolt though and it is worlds better than DS3s whole magic system.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:50 |
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RBA Starblade posted:Pyromancy never really got affected did it? After the patch ran sorcery into the ground (and hexes that weren't Dark Orb), I just used Dark Orb and Weapon, Great Heal, Soul Greatsword and Firestorm, and the previously mentioned claymore and the Roaring Halberd. yea it was just the offensive stuff that got the axe a lighting weapon was enough to easily chump anything, even the dlc enemies, but lol at the idea of relying on lightning spear as more than chip damage/a finisher. the dlc actually added some of the best support magic stuff even
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:52 |
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Heres a good dark souls 2 spell for you all: soul bolt
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:53 |
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Now I want them to release a GOTY trilogy version that has HD remakes and pc optimization for all three games.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:55 |
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Azuth0667 posted:Now I want them to release a GOTY trilogy version that has HD remakes and pc optimization for all three games. That's more-or-less what SotFS is for DS2, although the game ran just great out of the box, anyways. I'm sure they'll revisit DS1 with an HD remake a few years down the line.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 16:56 |
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One of these days we'll get a Demon's Souls HD with that restored 6th archstone...
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:03 |
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Yodzilla posted:One of these days we'll get a Demon's Souls HD with that restored 6th archstone... The Souls HD Collection will have this, but when you touch the 6th archstone it just loads up DS1
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:05 |
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The 6th archstone is a remake of King's Field.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:05 |
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Yodzilla posted:One of these days we'll get a Demon's Souls HD with that restored 6th archstone... if you check out places like cuttingroomfloor.com and look at the data mined from DeS for what would have been in world 6, it feels like it's better that they just cut it. from what data they could find, it looked like the whole world was just standard fantasy bearman/wolfman/animalperson/etc. which would have been inconsistent with the otherwise atonal, dreamlike, chtuhlhu-esqe aesthetic of the rest of the game
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:23 |
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Yodzilla posted:Weird I guess I just never tried since all of my warcry weapons have been with my strength character and this was an attempt at using the axe as "sharp" and magic buffed. Yeah, I ran into the same issue when I tried to make the Crescent Axe work for my faith build with Lightning Blade. If you want to take advantage of warcry and your scaling stat you could always infuse.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:30 |
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Freaking Crumbum posted:if you check out places like cuttingroomfloor.com and look at the data mined from DeS for what would have been in world 6, it feels like it's better that they just cut it. from what data they could find, it looked like the whole world was just standard fantasy bearman/wolfman/animalperson/etc. which would have been inconsistent with the otherwise atonal, dreamlike, chtuhlhu-esqe aesthetic of the rest of the game Haha yeah I remember that. I mean who knows they could have made it work, Boletaria is fairly generic fantasy and I think it's a rad set of levels. Deified Data posted:Yeah, I ran into the same issue when I tried to make the Crescent Axe work for my faith build with Lightning Blade. Oh so warcry and a magic infusion would stack? The character is pumped full of dexterity and intelligence so that might work.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:31 |
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Yep, I'm not sure if the Millwood Axe can be infused but it works for warcry weapons that can be.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:37 |
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Yodzilla posted:Haha yeah I remember that. I mean who knows they could have made it work, Boletaria is fairly generic fantasy and I think it's a rad set of levels. I always felt like Boletaria was just the top of the rabbit hole, because even it has some really weird poo poo (especially in 1-1 with the execution area right off the initial archstone) but I also thought 1-2 and 1-3 were the least interesting levels because they are generic fantasy. the dragon bridge event in 1-2 is an awesome set piece, but it really is out of place with the rest of the weirdness in the game. I guess 4-1 is also mostly just skeletons and a busted castle, but worlds 2, 3, and 5 range from kind of creepy to loving unsettling. I should probably just buy a PS4 for bloodborne because the entire tone of that game sounds like the best elements of the DeS aesthetic stretched to fill a whole game.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:44 |
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MMF Freeway posted:The Souls HD Collection will have this, but when you touch the 6th archstone Havel walks out and beats you down
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:52 |
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I've gravitated to a str faith build as I tend to, but I'm noticing builds I see online go full ham with 60 in stats. Is the soft cap less harsh in 3. Is trying to split between magic and melee Garbo?
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 17:58 |
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:I've gravitated to a str faith build as I tend to, but I'm noticing builds I see online go full ham with 60 in stats. Is the soft cap less harsh in 3. Is trying to split between magic and melee Garbo? If you're aiming for a PvP level-cap meta, then you'll be trying to skate by with less HP/Stamina. If you aren't, then adding points in one isn't going to reduce the effectiveness of the other but unless you're a dedicated grinder you won't reach the levels to have that sort of build until well into NG+. The only sort of builds I can think of that go to 60 in faith and aren't pure casters (pure faith casters are garbage) are high-level faith/dex builds that cast Darkmoon Blade on the Sellsword Twinblades, aka the Oroboro build.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 18:10 |
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Yeah I'm 119 and was going to try out meta PvP. Pvpskills faith build video got me excited for zapping butts, but I wasn't interested in juggling pyromancies too.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 18:22 |
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Control Volume posted:Heres a good dark souls 2 spell for you all: soul bolt The upgraded version of that that you can get in the Sunken King DLC is legit amazing. Same spell but 4 rays instead of one. Enough tracking that you can hit surprisingly often in PVP with it, and it's easy to always hit enemies with it, and if you hit with all 4 rays it does ~800-1000. I miss Sorcerery from DS2
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 18:39 |
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What is the ds3 pvp sl sweetspot? I always thought it was 125 but ive been seeing stuff like 160 and 140 now.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 18:56 |
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3v3 arenas are hilarious because five people fall upon each other and the fifth just uses crystal soul spear or great chaos fire orb and gets a triple kill. I like that it has a period at the end too to run around and gesture at people. Incidentally, I was player of the game. I wonder what the level/weapon range, if any, is in the undead match?
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 18:57 |
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I forget, Pyromancy soft-cap is 30/30 right?
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 18:58 |
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In the videos I was watching meta level was 120 and fire scaling soft cap was at 80 of int+faith. But I don't know how good that info was.
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# ? Oct 26, 2016 19:08 |