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Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
:D :D :D

A serious case of post-Ligur trauma, I guess.

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Feb 17, 2011

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Well, Finland has been selling weaponry to some Middle-Eastern hot spots of late, prime minister Sipilä claims this is business as usual, nothing to see here.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Rexroom posted:



Well, Finland has been selling weaponry to some Middle-Eastern hot spots of late, prime minister Sipilä claims this is business as usual, nothing to see here.

Isn't that what all countries selling arms and/or have weapons producing companies do regularly all day every day?

hillo
Dec 19, 2012

by zen death robot
I opened a tab on my browser and after looking at 1/10th of a sentence I decided holy poo poo I put my drunk poo poo here too. Now I just want to gently caress with these ripe teens

Disclaimer; I just hear this music in my ear and I want to gently caress my GF. OH there was this music

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

hillo posted:

I opened a tab on my browser and after looking at 1/10th of a sentence I decided holy poo poo I put my drunk poo poo here too. Now I just want to gently caress with these ripe teens

Disclaimer; I just hear this music in my ear and I want to gently caress my GF. OH there was this music

Make a home-pr0n and share it with us

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Ligur posted:

:D :D :D

A serious case of post-Ligur trauma, I guess.

Weak poo poo, even for you. Look at what you have been reduced to, like a child claiming what isn't real is real. Not a single answer to direct question. Not a speck of interest in actually debating anything or defending your own claims and ideas. There are no cheerleaders for you here so I am really wondering what you get out of this repeated self-humiliation? Because it really seems like a strange way to express masochism.

By the way, you are the one who has brought me up, dozen times, without any sort of prompt. You are the person who is consistently whining about me bullying you, me being mean to you, me saying bad things in general to you. These are all facts anyone can see just by looking at your post history. So my suggestion to you is to stop being a giant hypocrite babyman and don't post in a forum called Debate and Discussion if you are uninterested in either.

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Oct 26, 2016

hillo
Dec 19, 2012

by zen death robot

Ligur posted:

Make a home-pr0n and share it with us

sorry ligur I spent my last week in some weird state where I was hosed up and didn't understand anything.

Though them people are pushing their old fucks to me.

I have some home porno but eh I don't feel OK posting this poo poo

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008
test post

Herman Merman fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Oct 26, 2016

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
http://blogit.image.fi/uuninpankkopoikasakutimonen/2016/10/25/ja-taas-mentiin/

In other news, ligurs still don't understand statistics.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Ligur posted:

For example I still have not read a single reply to this guys proposals here

On one level Collier is right, it's unfair to give lots of resources to a small, self-selected minority of refugees and leave the majority to fend for themselves in the underfunded camps.
On another level realizing this plan of "returning" the refugees/migrants to refugee camps is pretty loving problematic for various reasons.

* Some refugees might not want to go, and returning them would require force and result in suicides, assaults on cops, people going underground etc.
* Some refugees have no ID and will not co-operate, in which country/camp should they be returned?
* Some people returned to the camps would try again no matter what, resulting in more drownings etc.
* There might not be enough camps for everybody.
* The countries which host the current camps may refuse to take back any refugees from the EU.
* Some of the camps may not be safe due to being too close to the conflict region.
* Which countries should be required to host the refugee camps anyway? Turkey? Greece? Finland?
* The host countries may object to the refugees being allowed to work and live "normal" lives in the camps because they want to make sure that the refugees will leave some day.
* Due to the way the political system works, if the conflict persists, at some point EU will stop funding the camps no matter what they've promised, and then either the host countries or the refugees are hosed.

It's a complicated issue with no clean solutions.

The modern idea of a refugee camp is more or less based on the displaced person camps built at the end of WWII. Spoiler: it did not work too well back then either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displaced_persons_camp#Resettlement_of_DPs

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

All the relevant numbers are here.

These statistics have been reported by several regular medias all over Finland.

Also, what the gently caress, you come here, link to a blog and then claim I don't understand statistics. In what manner exactly, because it seems to possibly be the opposite? What do I not understand in the above publication? (Saku Timonen's weird blog post has nothing whatsoever to do with my mathematics) :confused:

And yes, you're still a particularly stupid troll.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Herman Merman posted:

On one level Collier is right, it's unfair to give lots of resources to a small, self-selected minority of refugees and leave the majority to fend for themselves in the underfunded camps.
On another level realizing this plan of "returning" the refugees/migrants to refugee camps is pretty loving problematic for various reasons.

Just a quick one on this, do you have any idea of the sums massive economies like Germany use annually just to service asylum seekers?

That amount of cash and organization that it requires could do wonders, like building completely new cities from the ground up (especially where everything isn't the most expensive, uhh, everything, in the whole wide world like it is in the Nordics).

UNHCR has budgeted around 5 billion on refugees... Germany alone budgeted roughly €20bn in 2016 annually on asylum seekers for at least the next five years (not even counting those who leave for another country or return home.), Sweden's Migrationvärket estimates they need to spend €4,4bn in 2016, Finland between 500 million to 1bn (nobody has counted yet afaik?) and so on. This is terribly expensive and inefficient business.

Ligur fucked around with this message at 12:56 on Oct 26, 2016

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF

every post you make

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Fushigi Yuugi fansub posted:

every post you make

I'll be watching you

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Rexroom posted:

Well, Finland has been selling weaponry to some Middle-Eastern hot spots of late, prime minister Sipilä claims this is business as usual, nothing to see here.

jos me ei myytäisi, maailmassa on paljon kilpailijoita jotka mielellään ottaisivat sen öljysheikki-kontrahdin

he saavat tarkkuuskiväärinsä, riippumatta siitä mitä me teemme

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008
Hmm this apartment is unlocked, I think I'm perfectly justified in robbing them because someone would do it anyway sooner or later.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
Yeah, and when you think about it killing people is always justified because everybody dies sooner or later.

Hail Satan

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Ligur posted:

Just a quick one on this, do you have any idea of the sums massive economies like Germany use annually just to service asylum seekers?

Yes. Do you have any thoughts on the problematic points I brought up?

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Herman Merman posted:

Yes. Do you have any thoughts on the problematic points I brought up?

Yeah, I can post about after I'm done with some tv shoots. You probably won't like my thoughts though as they involve an opinion Europe cannot solve the problems of surrounding countries by taking in their surplus young men who have a bleak future.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Herman Merman posted:

Hmm this apartment is unlocked, I think I'm perfectly justified in robbing them because someone would do it anyway sooner or later.

puhutko nyt maahanmuuttajista

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Suomen Vastarintaliike - those Finnish violent neonazies who want a pan-scandinavian nazi state - got themselves in a pickle last month due to manslaughtering a passerby. Pressured by demonstrations against fascism, the government promised to deal with the skinheads swiftly by changing the law. That is until they found out the law already gave them the tools to close down the organization. So it was left to the state prosecutor to build a case against them. And today he announced that actually, that isn't his job. That job belongs to the police. So now the police have to build a case against them, file it to the courts and do the whole drat process for god knows how many years. The gears of justice grind slowly, especially in Finland.

Too bad we revoked the Paris peace treaty of 1947 in 1990, which stated in one of it's clauses that anti-democratic organizations are strictly prohibited to operate. Now we have to leave it for the courts to decide, and they might just shrug the case out.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


It's not like closing them down would actually do anything constructive aside from make people feel good.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Andrast posted:

It's not like closing them down would actually do anything constructive aside from make people feel good.

Not only that but I'm not sure how you close down an unregistered group. If you device up some kind of charges just for being a known or suspected member of some wacko society they'll just go more UG on yo rear end.

edit: That said if you have evidence of someone preaching the extermination of other people and trying to make others execute this plan, to the court with you.

Ligur fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Oct 27, 2016

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Rexroom posted:

Too bad we revoked the Paris peace treaty of 1947 in 1990,

Finnlandisierung!

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011
I meant to post this earlier but forgot.

Someone in Jakomäki has made this: https://imgur.com/a/al64w

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Rappaport posted:

Finnlandisierung!

Gesundheit

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Municipal elections aren't until early spring, but Yle is already at it with their "Kuntatutka" and televised debate with party chairmen this evening. Hopefully they'll interview every candidate and post videos to the net like they did last time.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks

Rexroom posted:

Too bad we revoked the Paris peace treaty of 1947 in 1990, which stated in one of it's clauses that anti-democratic organizations are strictly prohibited to operate. Now we have to leave it for the courts to decide, and they might just shrug the case out.

We didn't actually revoke it, just the armaments clauses.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED


Major kudos for including "Eurooppa" there because the rhetorical picture drawn of criminal foreigners is usually brown or black people when the vast majority of foreigners living in Finland (and committing crimes, as people do) are Russian or Estonian or stateless ethnic Russians from Estonia.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

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Want to check your privilege? Now you can with a test provided by HS.

EDIT: Oh no, I'm 48% more privileged than the others. I guess that colored band-aid did me in. :v:

No. 1 Callie Fan fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Oct 30, 2016

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Rexroom posted:

Want to check your privilege? Now you can with a test provided by HS.

EDIT: Oh no, I'm 48% more privileged than the others. I guess that colored band-aid did me in. :v:

I'm 7% more, poo poo, I must probably whip or kill myself out of guilt.

Would be funny but I suspect rexroom is serious with this magnificent test...

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Rexroom posted:

EDIT: Oh no, I'm 48% more privileged than the others. I guess that colored band-aid did me in. :v:

#mongolproblems

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


92%

I'm the king of privilege

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
miksi kaikki pohjanmaalaiset ja sinne muuttaneet ovat insestipedoja?

HUMAN FISH
Jul 6, 2003

I Am A Mom With A
"BLACK BELT"
In AUTISM
I Have Strengths You Can't Imagine
11%

:smith:

kikkelivelho
Aug 27, 2015

Rexroom posted:

Want to check your privilege? Now you can with a test provided by HS.

EDIT: Oh no, I'm 48% more privileged than the others. I guess that colored band-aid did me in. :v:

Too many questions, stopped before I got a final result.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Hogge Wild posted:

miksi kaikki pohjanmaalaiset ja sinne muuttaneet ovat insestipedoja?

se on se lahkolaisuus mikä aiheuttaa tälläisen paskan


Rexroom posted:

Want to check your privilege? Now you can with a test provided by HS.

EDIT: Oh no, I'm 48% more privileged than the others. I guess that colored band-aid did me in. :v:

2 prosenttia sain ite

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
Täälläpä 0%. 6 pistettä. Ihan rehellisesti vastaamalla.

Ei kannattais olla köyhä ja sairas. Siitäpä suurin osa.

Smol
Jun 1, 2011

Stat rosa pristina nomine, nomina nuda tenemus.
25/25 (98th percentile) :staredog:

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Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Smol posted:

25/25 (98th percentile) :staredog:

Profusely apologize for you privilege and kill yourself at once!!!11 The hitler and satan is among us! Ban this message board! Nnnnoooooooo!!2

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