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Powercrazy posted:Day1 with civ4 I was able to tweak the cost of various buildings, wonders, units, technologies, as well as the tile yields, trade yields and specialist yields. Not to mention the features of the world builder. What is Civ6's excuse? If it is so easy to make civ4 then why hasn't anyone else made it yet Checkmate motherfucker
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Megazver posted:The late strategic resource distribution has to be bugged. Game after game, there's like one or two of coal or uranium per loving planet. I don't know if it's just random based on the game but I've noticed that they are much more stingy in this version than in the past. Uranium always felt like it was hard to come by in past versions, but I'm noticing the same for oil, iron, and coal as well. It's not bad as it forces you to be a Suzerian of city-states to have access to their resources. And perhaps to force you to settle in less desirable locations. I guess the downside is that it's yet another advantage for going wide in the game.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:33
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:If it is so easy to make civ4 then why hasn't anyone else made it yet No apparently the features that Civ4 had on launch just can't be done anymore. It's just too hard. It's completely unrealistic, absurd even.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:33
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Playing on Island Plates feels really awful since usually half your territory are worthless sea tiles. You could compensate for this in Civ 5, but in Civ 6 the loss of tiles to build districts on really hurts. It's not imbalanced since every other civ suffers that same penalty but it makes getting cities up and going take a lot longer.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:35
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found this chart two settlers on emperor?
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Oct 26, 2016 21:35
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Powercrazy posted:Also why do "mod tools" need to be released? Why aren't scripts, xmls, and other features exposed to the player to begin with? I think they are, but people don't know what they're capable of? I mean, there are definitely lua and xml and cfg files that people are already messing with.
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Brannock posted:Playing on Island Plates feels really awful since usually half your territory are worthless sea tiles. You could compensate for this in Civ 5, but in Civ 6 the loss of tiles to build districts on really hurts. Standard Continents just has a weird feel to it. It takes a really long time to reveal the map and then when you do, it's all water.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:36
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Prav posted:two settlers on emperor? Honestly given how easy it is to storm a city in the early game and seize it, that's probably more a buff to the player than it is a buff to the AIs. Extra warriors on Emperor slows this down but doesn't really stop it.
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Brannock posted:Honestly given how easy it is to storm a city in the early game and seize it, that's probably more a buff to the player than it is a buff to the AIs. Extra warriors on Emperor slows this down but doesn't really stop it. yeah more and more i'm thinking that the emp strat is to just archer/UU rush someone and then keep going. just make sure to get catapults before too many walls go up
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Prav posted:yeah more and more i'm thinking that the emp strat is to just archer/UU rush someone and then keep going. just make sure to get catapults before too many walls go up In my Gilgamesh game (which was on emperor) I just built a bunch of war carts to start and took over the two civs nearest me instead of building settlers. I filled out the space between my cities later.
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Has anyone had the AI come close to a science victory on them? It feels like the AI is really bad at science and I can always be miles ahead of them in that area even if I'm not really trying. The problem I have is that once the late game comes around, I can build bombers and all sorts of other powerful poo poo and just destroy anyone who is even close to a victory in another path. This could also be that they don't seem to target strategic resources so can't build the better units either.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:49
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oh oh routes.xml. time to make roads great again. 0,75 movement per tile on an industrial age road are you kidding me?
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Oct 26, 2016 21:50
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Inspector_666 posted:I think they are, but people don't know what they're capable of? I mean, there are definitely lua and xml and cfg files that people are already messing with. I've poked around and while I do see some things, I haven't found tile yields, or build costs, which are basically starting points for mods. Though UI issues have stopped me from too much experimentation.
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Oct 26, 2016 21:54
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Why is there no renessance or industrial pikeman replacement? It's terrible having those units become totally useless as tech eclipses them until they suddenly have rocket launchers. (Admittedly, rocket launchers vs spearmen and elephants is always hilarious)
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Oct 26, 2016 21:55
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Niwrad posted:Has anyone had the AI come close to a science victory on them? It feels like the AI is really bad at science and I can always be miles ahead of them in that area even if I'm not really trying. Kongo in my game was up to Mechanized Infantry and had a Spaceport in their last city, even after I took away half their empire. They would got a space victory for sure if I didn't crush them. This is on my Prince run as the Aztecs.
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Keiya posted:Why is there no renessance or industrial pikeman replacement? It's terrible having those units become totally useless as tech eclipses them until they suddenly have rocket launchers. It seems weird we have two types of anti-tank crews.
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Niwrad posted:Has anyone had the AI come close to a science victory on them? It feels like the AI is really bad at science and I can always be miles ahead of them in that area even if I'm not really trying. Rirse posted:Kongo in my game was up to Mechanized Infantry and had a Spaceport in their last city, even after I took away half their empire. They would got a space victory for sure if I didn't crush them. This is on my Prince run as the Aztecs. Same for me. Greece had managed to build three spaceports and even launched a satellite, sitting safe and sound on a different continent. I still managed to comfortably get a science victory before them with time to spare, but if I'd been harder pressed on my own continent it might have been a close thing. This was also on Prince, playing as Egypt.
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Keiya posted:Why is there no renessance or industrial pikeman replacement? It's terrible having those units become totally useless as tech eclipses them until they suddenly have rocket launchers. Because there also isn't a heavy cavalry replacement until Knights transform into Tanks.
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I have a few questions I'm hoping I can get some help on. Religion was the area I was always confused on in Civ 5. 1) Do I get any benefit from religion in my cities if I didn't found them? I conquered Sumerians and they had founded Judaism. It spread and their cities were pumping out tons of faith. Was I getting any benefit from that at all? All I was doing was creating missionaries and apostles to stop another Civ from getting a religious victory. 2) Is the religious victory as boring as it sounds? Seems like the strategy is just spam missionaries and apostles and convert as many cities as possible? Is there more strategy to this that I'm not seeing? 3) Is there a way to cycle through all my units like in the previous Civ? Sometimes I put a unit to sleep and have to search the whole map to find them. Wondering if I'm missing an easier way to do this so I know what's out there. 4) What's the difference in the thermonuclear device and just the nuclear bomb? Gave me the option to build both but couldn't figure out if they performed differently. 5) Do roads suck in this version? Seems that it's not benefiting movement much at all like in previous Civs.
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Efexeye posted:Okay, then I'll stop Hey I like this game a lot and will defend it against stupid criticism all the time. I think you picked the wrong fight here though. Honestly I don't think it's bad that some problems seem easy to fix though. That might signify a misstep on Firaxis's part for whatever reason (Maybe they just missed it, or were rushing to their deadline) but the alternative that it's a deep structural problem that would be difficult to fix is actually much worse for the game. I have enough faith to assume they didn't gently caress up that bad, but if they did, then this game doesn't stand much of a chance at getting better. I don't think the specific issue discussed was even present in Civ V, so it shouldn't be a problem here.  Anway, I feel like the protectorate Casus Belli's war monger penalties are wrong
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Niwrad posted:3) Is there a way to cycle through all my units like in the previous Civ? Sometimes I put a unit to sleep and have to search the whole map to find them. Wondering if I'm missing an easier way to do this so I know what's out there. The only way I know of, is that if you click the unit name (in the bottom right, where you'd give it orders) you get a list of units that you can then individually click through. It's a lousy implementation:  if it's grey, they don't have a move left. If it's white, they do. edit also if you click the arrows next to city names in the same part of the interface, you cycle through your cities. boar guy fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Niwrad posted:Has anyone had the AI come close to a science victory on them? It feels like the AI is really bad at science and I can always be miles ahead of them in that area even if I'm not really trying. In my France game I had one of the spies constantly popping up "soandso just finished future tech", so they were clearly done with everything, but were not even trying to build the spaceport stuff.
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It's really fun watching the CIv 4 squad claiming their game at release was perfect when they had to patch a lot of major features later on. Specially the AI where I could literally nuke one or two civs to death and get denounced at max because "We Are Bros" is Good AIŠ I'll just make myself clear, I couldn't give two shits about threats or denounces, the BEST way to deter surprise wars is a good defending army and that has been the rule since CiV2. I believe you guys are missing CIV4 Diplo because you could exploit them to be best friends forever while in CiV5/6 they are just crazy psychos. turboraton fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Rip I also have bad AI because I double posted. Denounce me!
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:Anway, I feel like the protectorate Casus Belli's war monger penalties are wrong Protectorate, liberation and reconquest wars all have WarmongerPercent="0" turboraton posted:It's really fun watching the CIv 4 squad claiming their game at release was perfect when they had to patch a lot of major features later on. Specially the AI where I could literally nuke one or two civs to death and get denounced at max because "We Are Bros" is Good AIŠ Who's even been talking about Civ 4? Also, I'm honestly fine with not everyone declaring war on you if you nuke civs to death. In fact attacking a civ that just wiped out one or two other civs with nukes seems pretty suicidal? Also Civ 4 didn't have denouncing people so I don't know what you're talking about. Honestly this seems super defensive to me with very little provocation
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Niwrad posted:4) What's the difference in the thermonuclear device and just the nuclear bomb? Gave me the option to build both but couldn't figure out if they performed differently. Nuclear bomb detonates on the space and one space around it, the fallout around it last for 10 turns. A thermonuclear device detonates on the space and two spaces around it, the fallout last 20 rounds.
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Staltran posted:Protectorate, liberation and reconquest wars all have WarmongerPercent="0" Bullshit, you got a diplo message warning you about nuclear business and poo poo. We have become pretty much old people in here remembering things that were in fact different. I'll say this against Civ 6 though. Who the gently caress thought auto-cycle units was a good idea. I share this with all my goons who have raged about it: http://imgur.com/a/rCtjw turboraton fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Oct 26, 2016 |
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Hot tall strats: Play Kongo, ignore his relic/sculpture bonus and just use his bonus slots on 6 rushed works of writing. Have 40 culture in the early game, slingshot to Mbanzas, laugh all the way to the bank.
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turboraton posted:Rip I also have bad AI because I double posted. Denounce me! If you truly want to match the AI you need to denounce all of us for not double posting. Never take the blame!
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turboraton posted:Bullshit, you got a diplo message warning you about nuclear business and poo poo. We have become pretty much old people in here remembering things that were in fact different. Maybe there's some nuke-specific stuff. I've never actually used nukes in any Civ game.
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Using nukes with a severe diplo penalty is fine imo, as long as the nukes are sufficiently powerful to merit the diplo hit. Civ4 ICBMs were extremely underwhelming in this respect. Tactical nukes on the other hand, were awesome.
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The game is good but unit auto cycling switching units after I just loving clicked a unit to select it is literally the worst UI behavior of all time. The UI in general is just aggressively garbage.
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need cash? build units with faith and then sell them! you'll be rolling in coin in no time
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Prav posted:found this chart Huh, I guess that the only differences on the first three dificulty levels are on-player bonuses. Interesting. I have a hard time believing that the CPU players get no science bonus on Prince, given that I was producing 1.5X Kongo's science production and yet they kept 1 tech ahead of me for over a hundred turns. Dunno what was up with that.
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Unormal posted:The game is good but unit auto cycling switching units after I just loving clicked a unit to select it is literally the worst UI behavior of all time. It is actually really hard to program things like this and it is your own fault.
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Unormal posted:The game is good but unit auto cycling switching units after I just loving clicked a unit to select it is literally the worst UI behavior of all time. It's astounding to me that they didn't make auto-cycling a checkbox option and instead hid it away in a cfg file.
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Unormal posted:The game is good but unit auto cycling switching units after I just loving clicked a unit to select it is literally the worst UI behavior of all time. Yeah, the unit cycling is infuriating and the useroptions.txt tweak is pretty much essential. Like, I'll forgive lovely tactical AI before I'll forgive the unit cycling. Fix that poo poo Firaxis.
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Powercrazy posted:Day1 with civ4 I was able to tweak the cost of various buildings, wonders, units, technologies, as well as the tile yields, trade yields and specialist yields. Not to mention the features of the world builder. What is Civ6's excuse? People are literally already doing this.
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Unormal posted:The game is good but unit auto cycling switching units after I just loving clicked a unit to select it is literally the worst UI behavior of all time. https://www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/58q3qj/psa_guide_on_how_to_enable_wasd_andor_other/ I'll avoid commenting on the sheer idiocy of needing to do any of these changes rather than them already existing as options in the game, but hey
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Brannock posted:Playing on Island Plates feels really awful since usually half your territory are worthless sea tiles. You could compensate for this in Civ 5, but in Civ 6 the loss of tiles to build districts on really hurts. it's a great map type for Norway
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