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Losing Fuller is kind of disastrous. He was the major reason I was interested in this because his past shows have all been amazing. That news really sucks.
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Bets on this being worse than enterprise or worse than voyager?
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Oct 27, 2016 01:49
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It depends on how much lingering influence Fuller has. If he's not actually involved beyond a credit, the outcome looks bad.
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Oct 27, 2016 01:53
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Oct 27, 2016 01:58
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dont even fink about it posted:Friendly reminder: Publicized budgets are all bullshit. Is there any source on 'actual' numbers, or is it the old "whoever says they know is lying" routine?
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Oct 27, 2016 02:05
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Nichael posted:Losing Fuller is kind of disastrous. He was the major reason I was interested in this because his past shows have all been amazing. That news really sucks. The IGN article about this is saying that they have actually cast all of the roles except for the main lead. One good thing is that apparently Fuller mapped out the story arc for the season before he had to step down.
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Oct 27, 2016 02:17
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Executive producer can mean so many things that it's essentially meaningless without more details. Will he be in the writer's room? Will he still have a say in casting the lead? Are the new showrunners people he wanted to be brought in?
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Oct 27, 2016 02:57
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The Dark One posted:Executive producer can mean so many things that it's essentially meaningless without more details. Will he be in the writer's room? Will he still have a say in casting the lead? Are the new showrunners people he wanted to be brought in? Considering the Variety report says he's already written the first 2 episodes himself it sounds like "Yes" he's still involved in writing. Also the new showrunners were already working on Discovery and previously worked on other shows with Fuller, so I imagine yes he wanted them. Look, if there were serious creative problems or differences going on, then CBS would be trying to scrub him from the show as much as they could. They'd toss his scripts out and have others start over. They'd bring in fresh faces. But they haven't. It's still the same staff working on it, just some people have different roles now. They're still using his material. I think the impact of this, while not great, is also being overblown. macnbc fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 03:20
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I don't know the first thing about Fuller so whatever, because I also didn't get hyped that he was running it in the first place. Is Nick Meyer still around though, I didn't see his name in that article.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:24
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:Is Nick Meyer still around though, I didn't see his name in that article. God only knows. I think they've dropped his name once since he was initially announced as a producer.
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Oct 27, 2016 03:35
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Maybe now I can pitch them my idea about the Tal Shi'ar and Obsidian Order agents who somehow end up sharing an apartment. ...no, it's not a comedy, why would you think that?
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After The War posted:Maybe now I can pitch them my idea about the Tal Shi'ar and Obsidian Order agents who somehow end up sharing an apartment. ... I'd watch a Star Trek Spy vs Spy show.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:03
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Nichael posted:It depends on how much lingering influence Fuller has. If he's not actually involved beyond a credit, the outcome looks bad. The article definitely suggests that he's gonna be more than nominally involved. That could be inaccurate I guess, but if they're still using his scripts and his story (and, presumably, not firing all the writers he hired) then it sounds like his fingerprints will still be on it.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:17
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Moriatti posted:Hey, so I am mid season 3 in Farscape and loving it. Premeire, Exodus from Genesis and PK Tech Girl are early episodes that are pretty representative of the show's tone and style and hold up on their own.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:21
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showbiz_liz posted:The article definitely suggests that he's gonna be more than nominally involved. That could be inaccurate I guess, but if they're still using his scripts and his story (and, presumably, not firing all the writers he hired) then it sounds like his fingerprints will still be on it.
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Oct 27, 2016 05:35
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I imagine he'll be about as involved as Martin Scorsese was on Boardwalk Empire after doing the pilot, or a guy like Spielberg on any vanity tv project with his name attached. Losing a showrunner at any point in a series is often a bad thing; losing them before it even starts is a disaster.
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Oct 27, 2016 06:07
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Random speculation, but everything seems to point to the idea that when he was brought onboard he was under the assumption that the show would have a lot longer development run-up schedule than CBS was planning, and that CBS thought they'd be able to poo poo this out as fast as a new sitcom or something.
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Oct 27, 2016 06:37
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Even if that was the case, that December launch date was announced very early so it shouldn't have caught him off-guard. He shouldn't have taken the job when he knew American Gods was going to take up a huge amount of his time. It's hard to fault CBS for not wanting to delay the premiere again when Fuller can't even finalize the casting on time.
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Oct 27, 2016 08:07
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I'd say the arrival of Akiva 'Batman & Robin/Lost In Space' Goldsman is more worrying.
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Oct 27, 2016 08:33
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Payndz posted:I'd say the arrival of Akiva 'Batman & Robin/Lost In Space' Goldsman is more worrying. What do these assholes have on who that they keep getting work?
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Tighclops posted:What do these assholes have on who that they keep getting work? I'm sure there's a legitimate reason (((Akiva Goldsman))) keeps getting work. I'm sure of it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 27, 2016 10:57
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I'm sure there's a legitimate reason (((Akiva Goldsman))) keeps getting work. I'm sure of it. Cmon man
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Oct 27, 2016 10:59
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I'm sure there's a legitimate reason (((Akiva Goldsman))) keeps getting work. I'm sure of it.
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Oct 27, 2016 11:00
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He's probably a good worker, in all honesty. That gets you far in any business.
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I was thinking more along the lines of they have photos of important people in hollywood at like, one of Bryan Singer's underage twink parties or something and any time they want in on a project they just wave that poo poo around like a free pass e: apparently this is just one person and I'm tired enough to think double Tighclops fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 11:51
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Don't forgot Kurtzman is in on this as well. At least Fuller's picks will be doing the showrunning for now. Small favors that Orci is nowhere near this thing.
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Oct 27, 2016 13:45
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Evek posted:Don't forgot Kurtzman is in on this as well. At least Fuller's picks will be doing the showrunning for now. Jokes on you, next week CBS will announce Orci is in as show-runner alongside Stuart Baird.
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Oct 27, 2016 13:51
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Star Trek fans: not as optimistic about the future as Star Trek is!skasion posted:Pretty sure the thread called this Astroman posted:This is gonna kill any chance we have of a Star Trek tv show for 10-15 years. macnbc posted:I think the impact of this, while not great, is also being overblown. At this point, hating on Discovery feels like something people just really want to do. Drone posted:Jokes on you, next week CBS will announce Orci is in as show-runner alongside Stuart Baird.
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Oct 27, 2016 14:14
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CaveGrinch posted:Variety reporting Bryan Fuller is out as show runner of Discovery. Welp! That's what I get for getting my hopes up. C'mon Bryan Fuller you're "Too busy"? Lame!
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Oct 27, 2016 14:22
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Dirty posted:At this point, hating on Discovery feels like something people just really want to do. While it's true that the Trek thread has generally been pessimistic about new Trek stuff prior to its release, opinion on Discovery was soured from the moment they mentioned that the new series would pilot CBS's lovely online streaming service. Doesn't matter that the concept could be really cool. It's like saying that Discovery would be the pilot program on a relaunched UPN. Wedged in between reboots of Shasta McNasty and Hangin' with Mister Cooper.
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Oct 27, 2016 14:25
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Dirty posted:I get that the news coming out isn't exactly encouraging, but right now, we still really don't know what this will turn out like. It's anywhere on the spectrum of really good to really awful. Not sure I see the point of writing it off before a single frame has been filmed. True, I suppose we should wait to even see if a single frame will ever be filmed. 
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Drone posted:While it's true that the Trek thread has generally been pessimistic about new Trek stuff prior to its release, opinion on Discovery was soured from the moment they mentioned that the new series would pilot CBS's lovely online streaming service. Doesn't matter that the concept could be really cool. So, like Voyager, then? ....Oh. Oh. 
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Oct 27, 2016 15:59
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Apple Jax posted:Welp! That's what I get for getting my hopes up. C'mon Bryan Fuller you're "Too busy"? Lame! He really is too busy, though. I'd wager based on some older interviews of his that if he'd been offered Star trek first, he never would've taken American Gods and/or Amazing Stories. But he was never gonna turn down Star Trek, even if it was perhaps unwise considering his workload.
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I think it's still pretty likely we'll get a 2nd season of Discovery since Netflix pretty much subsidized the first season.
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Oct 27, 2016 16:25
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Not only does Blade of Tyschalle have bad taste in starships, he's also an anti-Semite?
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Oct 27, 2016 16:34
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What is that new triple parentheses thing?
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Arglebargle III posted:What is that new triple parentheses thing? Anti-Semitic alt-righters on Twitter use it to "secretly" signal who is a (((Jew))). As in, "(((Leonary Nimoy))) must have a certain interest in the globalist agenda!"  It's the extreme right wing being about as clever as the rest of us know them to be.
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Oct 27, 2016 17:33
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bull3964 posted:I think it's still pretty likely we'll get a 2nd season of Discovery since Netflix pretty much subsidized the first season. Optimist. If the first season tanks, I reckon CBS is just as likely to take the cash bonus and run.
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Oct 27, 2016 17:43
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But, Vulcans can't be Jewish?
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Dirty posted:Star Trek fans: not as optimistic about the future as Star Trek is! Star Trek always said the 21st century was going to be a real shitshow.
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