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Grittybeard posted:You're being honest about this huh? 5 national championships, yearly expectations (and reality) of being in play to win another one, not good enough for a Texas pipe dream. Better go after John Gruden. He just said an NFL coach would be a disaster at Texas. Was not disparaging Sabans results, was pointing to them.
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I thought you were doubling down on this:ChinaBob posted:Right, understood. But if you're going to have a "pipe dream" candidate at least make it something worth dreaming about and not Miles or Saban: Cause I mean....Saban is like the dreamiest pipe dream who has ever coached in college.
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ChinaBob posted:Are you an Aggie or have you just never met any? We're happy right now beating one of Alabama (lol), LSU, or Ole Miss. Like yeah it'll probably get worse later but it's not Georgia bad.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:48
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ChinaBob posted:He just said an NFL coach would be a disaster at Texas. Was not disparaging Sabans results, was pointing to them. Saban never stopped being a college coach
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Kim Jong Il posted:BC will probably hire Al Golden. Addazio will put in a good word for him on his way out the door. computer parts posted:We're happy right now beating one of Alabama (lol), LSU, or Ole Miss. A&M's results remind me of what Petrino was putting together at Arkansas. Pretty drat good, like top ten good, but never getting to Bama's level (consistently).
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computer parts posted:We're happy right now beating one of Alabama (lol), LSU, or Ole Miss. hell I'm happy winning bowl games, last year excluded. Before Sumlin I dreaded the bowl season because I knew for sure it'd be a blowout.
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If Texas whiffs on their next coach how many years does it put them behind?
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Tyrannosaurus posted:If Texas whiffs on their next coach how many years does it put them behind? Until whenever they make their next good hire. There are so many natural advantages there a good coach should pretty much always be able to have some success. They made several lovely hires between Royal and Brown and Mack still got it turned around pretty quickly
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ChinaBob posted:Yet your "pipe dream" is Ole' Saint Nick. Interesting. nick saban was a head coach in the NFL for barely two years around which he has sandwiched arguably the greatest college coaching career of all time are you really so dumb that you don't get the difference between that and a career NFL coach
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That and Saban has been getting less and less pro-style manual since Kiffin has been on staff. He is willing to go with what works, and if that means sacrificing a goat to find the next up and coming spread guru before anyone else does, he can and will do it.
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I am going to be the next head football coach at the university of texas.
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I just found out Timmy Chang is the offensive coordinator of DIII Emory & Henry, when is Hawai'i gonna hire him to save their team from being dissolved.
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ChinaBob posted:Yet your "pipe dream" is Ole' Saint Nick. Interesting. Yeah he's the one "pro-style" guy I would leap at and it's only because he's Nick Saban. I couldn't bet against Nick Saban succeeding. If I'm choosing between guys we'll never get in a million years, I have to go Urban over Saban just because his style fits so much better with the players coming out of Texas HS football. Then again Saban gets whatever recruits he wants from anywhere so yeah.
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MourningView posted:Until whenever they make their next good hire. There are so many natural advantages there a good coach should pretty much always be able to have some success. They made several lovely hires between Royal and Brown and Mack still got it turned around pretty quickly Even then you had Akers being undefeated going into the Cotton Bowl twice, McWilliams having a team be in the title picture until getting wiped off the face of the earth by Miami, and Mackovic winning the last title of the SWC and first of the Big XII. Texas having potentially three losing seasons in a row is pretty impressive historically. I don't see anyone coming in and being the next Royal or Brown any time soon, but they should be able to find a coach that can make the team win more games.
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Tyrannosaurus posted:If Texas whiffs on their next coach how many years does it put them behind? Michigan hired a decent but out of place coach and an awful coach back to back and were completely irrelevant for 8 years, 2 years into hiring a good coach they're #2 in the country. Texas has all the same advantages and talent on the roster so I'd guess something similar to that.
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Not to mention if it's a coach that has a lot of buzz around them, even a lower level of competition, buy in happens quickly and the first couple of recruiting years help out there too, especially at somewhere like Texas
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LLCoolJD posted:I'm not a Texas schill. The way I see it, it's the premier program in Texas, with a huge fanbase, its own terrible TV network, and deep pockets. Recruiting is great, arguably second to none. It has everything to attract the top names. Everything except the lovely fan base & boosters that demand to get sucked off at all times by the head coach. And will throw you to the wolves if you have one sub-10 win season in a 10 year span. Texas fans are their own worst enemy, they SHOULD be able to attract any top name, but their fan base and their ridiculous expectations are the reason they don't
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Thermos H Christ posted:Yeah he's the one "pro-style" guy I would leap at and it's only because he's Nick Saban. I couldn't bet against Nick Saban succeeding. If I'm choosing between guys we'll never get in a million years, I have to go Urban over Saban just because his style fits so much better with the players coming out of Texas HS football. Then again Saban gets whatever recruits he wants from anywhere so yeah. Saban isn't really pro style anymore anyway, have you watched Bama this year?. I'm sure he wishes he could be, but after a season or two of throwing a hissy fit and crying about how the rules needed to be changed to get rid of hurry up spread offenses whenever he lost to one he accepted that it was where football was going and adapted. DrunkPanda posted:Everything except the lovely fan base & boosters that demand to get sucked off at all times by the head coach. And will throw you to the wolves if you have one sub-10 win season in a 10 year span. Texas fans are their own worst enemy, they SHOULD be able to attract any top name, but their fan base and their ridiculous expectations are the reason they don't What exactly is the evidence that they can't? Strong was one of the hottest coaching names when they hired him. They're not gonna hire Saban obviously, but they're gonna have their pick of guys who are actually interested in moving
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Alaois posted:I just found out Timmy Chang is the offensive coordinator of DIII Emory & Henry, when is Hawai'i gonna hire him to save their team from being dissolved. Timmy Chang for HC, Colt Brennan for OC. Make it happen.
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Hawaii is not good but they're way better than I thought they'd be. The rando they hired seems like he might be ok
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MourningView posted:Saban isn't really pro style anymore anyway, have you watched Bama this year?. I'm sure he wishes he could be, but after a season or two of throwing a hissy fit and crying about how the rules needed to be changed to get rid of hurry up spread offenses whenever he lost to one he accepted that it was where football was going and adapted. Yes, and I know his offense has most definitely gotten less cro-magnon, even incorporating tempo and such, but now he's running a more complex, multiple offense. I think the offense we are running now is philosophically about as perfect as you can get for Texas in this day and age. Run it between the tackles, throw quick/screen passes to the sidelines and take deep shots down the sidelines, using tempo to make the ultra-basic offense hard to defend. Definitely I think we should be doing this more manball version that has an emphasis on pushing people around and pounding the rock, but that's still simpler than what Kiffin-era Alabama seems to be doing, to the extent I've paid attention. I mean they occasionally throw to the middle of the field, take snaps under center, or run like a reverse or a sweep or something, right? I would be a little concerned about this with Harsin as well, but I think he's shown a remarkable ability to tailor an offense to his personnel and make it work, including at Texas. I'm probably also a little traumatized from watching Mack and Strong try to swim against the current, and now that we've finally got the offense we've needed all this time and it's putting up points even with a true freshman QB, I don't want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Thermos H Christ fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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The current Kiffin offensive style does pull in a lot of spread, but it is more spread to run than anything else. And by run, they mean any kind of run. Ive seen some sweeps, reverses, RBs, and QB keepers. It has some pro-style concepts, but only insofar as the fact that even with a really mobile quarterback who can make plays in and out of the pocket, they have the personnel to run over pretty much anyone if they feel like going into man-ball and milking the clock. I dunno about how he would do as a head coach again, but I think you could take Kiffin's offensive style and it would be rad at Texas, and other than being a bit complex (due to the fact that he has had time to get folks in his system for a few years), it would fit right in.
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Kiffins offense is rad because it's like he cooked up something that tastes like triple option from totally different ingredients
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Speaking of Kiffin, when are people going to start talking about his next shot at head coach? Kiffin2Texas
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Komet posted:Speaking of Kiffin, when are people going to start talking about his next shot at head coach? Kiffin2Texas Tennessee might have an opening this year.
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an adult beverage posted:Tennessee might have an opening this year. Yeah we could use a new OC.
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Real Name Grover posted:Someone was floating him for the Fresno gig along with Tedford. I think Fresno would be a good fit for him. He'd probably do well there.
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Real Name Grover posted:Someone was floating him for the Fresno gig along with Tedford. Heard that rumor from Podcast aint played nobody. He was only brought up due to him being an alum of the school and it having advantages over other MWC schools. I think he will probably hold out for something bigger like Kirby Smart. MourningView posted:Hawaii is not good but they're way better than I thought they'd be. The rando they hired seems like he might be ok Hasnt this always been the case with Hawaii? June Jones did well at the school due to how good the Run and Shoot worked there and the juco players he was able to pull in. (Hawaii should re-hire June Jones)
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Well he did try to get the job when it came open last year. June Jones confirms he will apply for UH football head coaching job Looks like he's coaching High School football in Hawaii now since he didnt get the College job. Ex-Hawaii football coach June Jones accepts job as Kapolei offensive coordinator VIDEO: All systems go with June Jones at Kapolei
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Sounds like he missed Hawaii. Dallas is a lot of things but it's not overflowing with immense natural beauty and people being real chilled out.
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Wiccan Wasteland posted:Heard that rumor from Podcast aint played nobody. He was only brought up due to him being an alum of the school and it having advantages over other MWC schools. I think he will probably hold out for something bigger like Kirby Smart. He could definitely hold out for a P5 job, but personally I'd love to see if he could get something interesting going in Fresno. It's not a sleeping giant by any means, but I could see Kiffin turning it into a regular contender for the G5 New Years spot solely because of how abysmal the MWC West Division is outside SDSU and the amount of talent floating around California. Although he couldn't get it done at USC, so who knows.
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punched my v-card at camp posted:He could definitely hold out for a P5 job, but personally I'd love to see if he could get something interesting going in Fresno. It's not a sleeping giant by any means, but I could see Kiffin turning it into a regular contender for the G5 New Years spot solely because of how abysmal the MWC West Division is outside SDSU and the amount of talent floating around California. Although he couldn't get it done at USC, so who knows. he only had like half the regular scholarship players at USC
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I kinda hope Kiffen gets another chance and does really well.  But I'm a sucker for sports redemption stories.
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punched my v-card at camp posted:He could definitely hold out for a P5 job, but personally I'd love to see if he could get something interesting going in Fresno. It's not a sleeping giant by any means, but I could see Kiffin turning it into a regular contender for the G5 New Years spot solely because of how abysmal the MWC West Division is outside SDSU and the amount of talent floating around California. Although he couldn't get it done at USC, so who knows. It might be easier at Fresno. The level of competition is pretty awful in the MWC outside of like two schools so just being able to outrecruit the rest of the conference can go a really long way.
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