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Luigi Thirty posted:https://twitter.com/MarkKirk/status/791803922272882689 Human Rights Campaign. Not Hillary. Edit: goddamn this thread moves fast. Sorry! Svanja fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Northjayhawk posted:she didn't really respond. She didn't have to, she probably knew that he had just made an incredibly stupid, epic gently caress-up, and so she just gracefully let the media take the ball and run with it. Well at least the story has legs.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:33
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Shbobdb posted:I appreciate a bunch of right wing lawyers arguing that Cruz should be President is cool and all but that's hardly mainstream outside of the crazy "NeverTrump" fringe of the Republican Party. Okay I guess I'll just take your word for it guy who has never been Solicitor General and is probably not even a lawyer. Also lmao at an Obama Solicitor General being a "right wing lawyer."
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Shbobdb posted:I appreciate a bunch of right wing lawyers arguing that Cruz should be President is cool and all but that's hardly mainstream outside of the crazy "NeverTrump" fringe of the Republican Party. This is where you "put up or shut up" with something more credible than your irrelevant personal experience with getting a security clearance.
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duz posted:iirc the USA does not recognize dual citizenship. Either you're an American citizen or you are not, end of. The US is quite permissive on citizenship in general due to our long stance on preventing statelessness. IIRC we won't recognize that you've renounced your US citizenship if you aren't a dual citizen at the time.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:34
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I, for one, am glad that there is so much pressure for your politicians to renounce any other citizenship they may have because it means I will never see Ted Cruz running for politics here. I hope 
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hobbesmaster posted:Phrasing?  I'll take my L on that, I didn't even consider that when I wrote it
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Shbobdb posted:I appreciate a bunch of right wing lawyers arguing that Cruz should be President is cool and all but that's hardly mainstream outside of the crazy "NeverTrump" fringe of the Republican Party. The only people who ever complain about Natural Born Citizenship when someone born outside the US to an American are the fringe. No one has ever made a serious case for such an interpretation, but no one has ever taken it to court. We've had a few nominees born outside the US, and it has never been an issue outside the fringe.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Re-read your post oh, poo poo, I wasn't even thinking about that. lol
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Oct 28, 2016 04:36
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cult member at airport posted:
Are you kidding? Every time I'm feeling down I think of the woman in that picture, and just imagine how loving beyond miserable and rage filled every second of her life has been since nov 2008, and will continue to be as she sees hillary stroll back into the white house. The thoughts are so beautiful and warming I wouldn't even need to start a campfire to keep me alive in a blizzard.
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Wasnt John McCain born in Panama?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You see when women care about doing things well they're being frivolous, not like we manly men who care about doing different things well. When women don't do those things well it's because they're stupid and probably got distracted thinking about makeup or something Eh, I'd be wary to chalk stuff up as immediately sexist. My girlfriend thinks my bobblehead collection is dumb and that how I work to arrange it in my office is silly, as well as how I set up stuff in the garage because it's just "tools and stuff, they can go wherever", but heaven forbid things aren't placed in the mantle or coffee table right. We are socialized to place different values on different things by our level of interacting with said things and gendered socialization. I'm sure if you asked his wife there's something he puts a level of care into that she would call "abnormal" to her standards.
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Carlosologist posted:Tammy Duckworth is a much better person than I am, Kirk deserves to have his face kicked in I think I'd be more upset if he didn't sound like a talking Ambien. Low energy. 
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Oct 28, 2016 04:41
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bird cooch posted:Wasnt John McCain born in Panama? On a military base. The Venn diagram of "people who care about that poo poo" and "republicans" is a perfect circle. The whole idea was to ensure that there could never be a black president since the founders were racists AF.
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Shbobdb posted:On a military base. The Venn diagram of "people who care about that poo poo" and "republicans" is a perfect circle. Agreed. Edit: pretty much everybody in the west (if not in majority world wide) was racist as gently caress back then. But it seems more likely they were thinking of people from England at the time. Cause, ya know..
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Oct 28, 2016 04:44
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Gyges posted:There's nothing in the Constitution that bars the President from being a dual citizen. I'm not even sure that was a thing at the time of the Constitution. Nowhere does it say in the constitution that a dog can't run for president. As long as that dog was born in America.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:45
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Shbobdb posted:On a military base. The Venn diagram of "people who care about that poo poo" and "republicans" is a perfect circle. Eh, nah it was more to do with preventing a European royal from taking over. I mean, yes they were violently and extremely racist but no they weren't worried about a black president.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:44
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Madkal posted:Nowhere does it say in the constitution that a dog can't run for president. And is at least 35 years old.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:47
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Madkal posted:Nowhere does it say in the constitution that a dog can't run for president. any dog that makes it to 35 years old has gotta know something we don't, and deserves to be president air bud. 
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Oct 28, 2016 04:48
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Shbobdb posted:The whole idea was to ensure that there could never be a black president since the founders were racists AF. Also people that would eventually have musicals written about them.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:48
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Madkal posted:Nowhere does it say in the constitution that a dog can't run for president. Actually, it specifies that the President must be a person. No Air Bud clause on Madison's watch.
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Doccers posted:I'm less than enamoured with Clinton (or Obama for that matter, and I voted for him twice) on gun issues, I think the "No Fly No Buy" idea strips away rights without any legal recourse which is a bad thing (ACLU agrees), and we disagree on how to implement universal background checks, but I agree with the vast majority of her other positions, and POTUS is largely a leadership position rather than a policymaking one, and I'm firmly convinced she's by far the most experienced and has the best temperment for the job. This is pretty much where I'm at. I think Obama's personal opinions on guns are absolutely not to my liking, but nothing on the anti-gun wishlist has been passed through Congress in the last decade, and I don't see that changing. Using the no-fly list for anything is abhorrent to me because it's non-judicial, and removing people's rights without due process makes me furious. Better to disband the no-fly list and force the government to start actually prosecuting people if they feel they're too dangerous to be citizens in public.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:49
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:And is at least 35 years old. That may disqualify dogs, but not turtles.
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GalacticAcid posted:Eh, nah it was more to do with preventing a European royal from taking over. Because I have some iconoclastic views and am generally very authoritarian, I got involved with an American Monarchist movement. Looking back, it was very much a precursor to the Dork Enlightenment poo poo we see today, just ~15-20 years earlier (gently caress I'm old). In all earnestness, I argued that if we were to throw our support behind an American Monarch they should be from the black side of Thomas Jefferson's legacy. My argument was . . . not well received. So I decided to smash fascist skulls instead. It was a very good choice.
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Gyges posted:Actually, it specifies that the President must be a person. No Air Bud clause on Madison's watch. I would say that opens the door for President Exxon, but we have had that for decades now.
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:And is at least 35 years old. That's only 5 in human years.
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:any dog that makes it to 35 years old has gotta know something we don't, and deserves to be president air bud. Dog years or people years? Because my dog could run for President if we're talking dog years. And he has a better grasp on most things than Donald Trump. And I've seen him (my dog, not Trump) eat his own poo poo.
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Tricky D posted:That may disqualify dogs, but not turtles.
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:And is at least 35 years old. And is white.
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Nessus posted:Well we already have one for Sen. Majority Leader This made me chuckle.
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Liquid Communism posted:This is pretty much where I'm at. I think Obama's personal opinions on guns are absolutely not to my liking, but nothing on the anti-gun wishlist has been passed through Congress in the last decade, and I don't see that changing. Using the no-fly list for anything is abhorrent to me because it's non-judicial, and removing people's rights without due process makes me furious. Better to disband the no-fly list and force the government to start actually prosecuting people if they feel they're too dangerous to be citizens in public. The sole purpose of that suggestion was to get Republicans to look utterly incapable of any sort of gun reform. Like it's literally the "Obama says oxygen is good" thing that people here dream about.
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One would think that the Founding Fathers would have had the foresight to specify whether they meant solar years or relative ages when they wrote the constitution. Unfortunately, all we can do now is wildly speculate. EDIT: Nessus posted:Well we already have one for Sen. Majority Leader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lp2asyRv8w Tricky D fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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logger posted:I would say that opens the door for President Exxon, but we have had that for decades now. That gives me the worrisome thought of how long until president Elon Musk.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:53
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:And is white. If Trump can run then so should a Pomeranian.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:54
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computer parts posted:The sole purpose of that suggestion was to get Republicans to look utterly incapable of any sort of gun reform.
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It's OK, Justice Thompson is a 10th level Necromancer and will totally answer our questions.
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Tricky D posted:One would think that the Founding Fathers would have had the foresight to specify whether they meant solar years or relative ages when they wrote the constitution. Unfortunately, all we can do now is wildly speculate. If only we had Justice Scalia with us so he could give us insight into the Founding Fathers true intent when they wrote that into The Constitution.
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Oct 28, 2016 04:55
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computer parts posted:The sole purpose of that suggestion was to get Republicans to look utterly incapable of any sort of gun reform. Yeah, but it was too obvious. It just leaves the NRA room to whine about how they'll accept 'reasonable' reform while pointing out that even liberals don't think that's reasonable.
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Madkal posted:Nowhere does it say in the constitution that a dog can't run for president. The Constitution states that it was signed "the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth" thereby establishing a year as the standard 365 day solar year as defined by the Gregorian Calendar. Therefore when Article II says "neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years", those years are human years and not dog years. The oldest dog ever documented lived to just under 30 years old. Even if we accept the personhood of a dog, the age requirement de facto excludes dogs. Your move. 
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Tricky D posted:That may disqualify dogs, but not turtles. 
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