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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Star Trek always said the 21st century was going to be a real shitshow. I can see two terms of the modern Republican party creating Sanctuary Districts. We're right on track for First Contact.
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Kazinsal posted:I can see two terms of the modern Republican party creating Sanctuary Districts. We're right on track for First Contact. If anything Sanctuary Districts are too optimistic given Republican views on the homeless are less "fallen on hard times" and more "parasites that need to be shot".
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Oct 27, 2016 19:46
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I heard Fuller dropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 27, 2016 19:59
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WickedHate posted:If anything Sanctuary Districts are too optimistic given Republican views on the homeless are less "fallen on hard times" and more "parasites that need to be shot". In Canada I wouldn't be surprised if it were a Liberal government that brings them in, marketed as a great progressive measure so the people in gated communities feel good about voting for them
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Oct 27, 2016 20:20
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Tighclops posted:In Canada I wouldn't be surprised if it were a Liberal government that brings them in, marketed as a great progressive measure so the people in gated communities feel good about voting for them Exactly, they sound way too compassionate on paper to be conservative.
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Arglebargle III posted:What is that new triple parentheses thing? It's also used to signify (((birds talking))) / 
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Oct 27, 2016 21:35
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It's also me trying and failing to be funny. Sorry, Trek thread. Not sorry about the ship thing, though.
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Arglebargle III posted:What is that new triple parentheses thing? ~¤~i'm not sure~¤~
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I'm glad it took the trek thread to finally teach me what the gently caress these (((names))) are about.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:It's also me trying and failing to be funny. Sorry, Trek thread. If it's any consolation, I thought it was funny.
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Oct 27, 2016 22:10
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What's funny is that the Vulcan salute is actually derived from a rabbinical gesture Nimoy peeked at (though the original used both hands, I believe). You probably could squeeze out a book about the Jewish influences in Trek. I bet someone already has!
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Oct 27, 2016 22:29
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Vulcans and Bajorans and Ferengi (gulp) Oh my!
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mind the walrus posted:Vulcans and Bajorans and Ferengi (gulp) Oh my! Don't you mean (((Ferengi)))? 
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Enterprise is starting to warm up to me a little. I liked the episode where Trip and Malcolm were stranded in a shuttle together and I like how T'Pol has one emotion and that emotion is "done".
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Astroman posted:Don't you mean (((Ferengi)))? Pikestaff posted:Enterprise is starting to warm up to me a little. I liked the episode where Trip and Malcolm were stranded in a shuttle together and I like how T'Pol has one emotion and that emotion is "done".
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Rhyno posted:But, Vulcans can't be Jewish?
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Oct 28, 2016 02:12
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Awesome, Adam Scott is at the helm of the Defiant in First Contact, awesome
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Check him out in Hellraiser 4. Dude aged a frighteningly low amount in 20 years.
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CharlieWhiskey posted:Awesome, Adam Scott is at the helm of the Defiant in First Contact, awesome Holy poo poo, how did I never notice this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdNbVxMNFvk
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mind the walrus posted:Check him out in Hellraiser 4. Dude aged a frighteningly low amount in 20 years. But that would involve watching Hellraiser 4. 
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CharlieWhiskey posted:Awesome, Adam Scott is at the helm of the Defiant in First Contact, awesome I only realized this watching First Contact before I saw Beyond this summer. Unreal.
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WickedHate posted:If anything Sanctuary Districts are too optimistic given Republican views on the homeless are less "fallen on hard times" and more "parasites that need to be shot". Something I've been wondering lately: I watched Encounter at Farpoint last weekend for the first time in like a decade, and they mention that Q's kangaroo court is from the 2080's. How does that gel with the fact that First Contact happened in 2063, and that it transformed human civilization pretty much overnight? Were there holdouts somewhere on Earth where the post-nuclear society held sway for a significant amount of time after the Vulcans showed up and became our babysitters? Why would the Vulcans allow that?
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I think in the post-atomic horror, humanity was looking to get the hell off Earth, and the nascent warp drive technology coupled with some Vulcan handholding (or restraint, depending on how you look at it) made for an effective way to start getting the "civilization" out. The post-atomic horror is what was left behind. FTL wasn't what made the Federation a utopia. At-will nearly limitless energy-to-matter conversion (matter-antimatter reactors hooked up to replicators) did, and that didn't show up until at least the late 23rd century.
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Rhyno posted:But, Vulcans can't be Jewish? I'd bet there are Jewish Vulcans. Just like how religion spreads across our planet, you'd think that it could also spread among other species. They'd probably be in the minority, but I'm sure some Vulcans might want to convert. Or any other species or religion for that matter. Buddhist Klingons. Catholic Ferengi. Muslim Betazoids. How about humans that follow the teachings of Kahless? It's a shame the show doesn't present any kind of intermingling of cultures. I guess it's a lot harder to write than "VULCANS = LOGIC"
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WickedHate posted:But that would involve watching Hellraiser 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-szf9FRi8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0R2xFmcYU
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There's no suggestion humanity's problems disappear overnight. Troi tells Cochrane that war/poverty/etc are gone within a century, but that's plenty of time for Q's courts and whatnot. I believe the NX-01 launch is just a couple years after the last holdouts join the United Earth government, and that's like... 2140s? Or I might be thinking of the Earth Alliance in B5.
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Fister Roboto posted:I'd bet there are Jewish Vulcans.
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Kazinsal posted:I think in the post-atomic horror, humanity was looking to get the hell off Earth, and the nascent warp drive technology coupled with some Vulcan handholding (or restraint, depending on how you look at it) made for an effective way to start getting the "civilization" out. The post-atomic horror is what was left behind. It was actually the New World Economy or whatever it's called, which was implemented around the start of the 22nd century. At least, that's when money/disease/poverty/hunger were all made obsolete on Earth.
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Drone posted:Something I've been wondering lately: I watched Encounter at Farpoint last weekend for the first time in like a decade, and they mention that Q's kangaroo court is from the 2080's. How does that gel with the fact that First Contact happened in 2063, and that it transformed human civilization pretty much overnight? Were there holdouts somewhere on Earth where the post-nuclear society held sway for a significant amount of time after the Vulcans showed up and became our babysitters? Why would the Vulcans allow that? I bet if you asked Moore and Braga they would say "oh yeah of course the kangaroo courts were over by the time Cochrane was doing his test flight". (i.e. I don't think they checked their dates against ~established continuity~ and essentially contradicted Farpoint) Kazinsal posted:I think in the post-atomic horror, humanity was looking to get the hell off Earth, and the nascent warp drive technology coupled with some Vulcan handholding (or restraint, depending on how you look at it) made for an effective way to start getting the "civilization" out. The post-atomic horror is what was left behind. Antimatter isn't an energy source, it's an energy storage medium. The real breakthrough would be cheap and prolific fusion power.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Antimatter isn't an energy source, it's an energy storage medium. The real breakthrough would be cheap and prolific fusion power. I think it's implied at some point that it's solar for Earth, although that probably involves spacebourne power stations. Then again, that is free fusion power. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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I always figured they had giant solar stations with antimatter generators to provide all the fuel. Antimatter's a pain and expensive to make but if you're just drawing the power from a star who cares.
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Zurui posted:Holy poo poo, how did I never notice this? 1. Why is the main view screen not already on? 2. I hate the dramatic pause Picard does before saying fire. You see at least one ship explode in that time. If he'd said fire straight away, it might have been possible to save some of that crew.
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Grand Fromage posted:There's no suggestion humanity's problems disappear overnight. Troi tells Cochrane that war/poverty/etc are gone within a century, but that's plenty of time for Q's courts and whatnot. Colonel Green did nothing wrong.
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The_Doctor posted:1. Why is the main view screen not already on? To show off the new effect, of course. Never mind it's always been depicted as 3D. quote:2. I hate the dramatic pause Picard does before saying fire. You see at least one ship explode in that time. If he'd said fire straight away, it might have been possible to save some of that crew. Well, the implication (and the explanation in the novelisation) was that he heard the Cube's momentary shielding weakness through the Borg voices he mentioned hearing a second before, so it might've required waiting for a specific time? MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Oct 28, 2016 |
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Grand Fromage posted:I always figured they had giant solar stations with antimatter generators to provide all the fuel. Antimatter's a pain and expensive to make but if you're just drawing the power from a star who cares. Antimatter would be a huge safety liability on the ground. Besides, you don't need that kind of energy density on the ground, you mostly just need it for warp drive and the occasional
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Yeah I figure antimatter is just for starships since you need a lot of energy density there, planets/stations use solar and fusion.
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The_Doctor posted:1. Why is the main view screen not already on? More importantly, what are Riker and Picard staring dramatically at moments before it gets turned on? The back of Data's head? Without the viewscreen on, the enterprise bridge is super awkward. Everything is set up so that nobody can look at anyone's face. It's like that friend who has their living room set up entirely for TV watching. Then they have a party and you realize that you're all just sitting there pointing at a wall while you're trying to talk.
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Nessus posted:You and I both know that the Ferengi would convert to Objectivism or perhaps Scientology. That's racist.
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Grand Fromage posted:I always figured they had giant solar stations with antimatter generators to provide all the fuel. Antimatter's a pain and expensive to make but if you're just drawing the power from a star who cares.
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