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DaveWoo posted:The U.S. economy expanded at a 2.9% annual rate in the third quarter of 2016, the fastest economic growth in two years. Clearly businesses are producing in anticipation of a Trump landslide.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Donald Trump's infrastructure plan: $1 trillion in roads for free! Oh yes, just what I want: every road a toll road. My libertarian fanfics are coming to life before my eyes!
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Night10194 posted:I believe they're still polling people and just asking if they already voted, because who's a more likely voter than someone who already early voted? Oh okay. There goes that theory.  My guess is Clinton by 6-8% based on GOTV but the early voting is pretty positive. Shame about the House but it was always a pipe dream.Texas though 
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Chokes McGee posted:Oh okay. There goes that theory. We'll see what happens. We've never had a modern election where the GOP candidate did not have ANY attempt to get out the vote, and the average of the national polling still has Clinton ahead of where Obama actually won in 2012. Obama's still popular and Clinton has the resources for a big final push while Trump is actually out of moneys. It's not too late for the dream yet.
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DaveWoo posted:The U.S. economy expanded at a 2.9% annual rate in the third quarter of 2016, the fastest economic growth in two years. Somewhere, Donald Trump suddenly shouts out "Wrong!" and he doesn't know why.
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Oct 28, 2016 14:21
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Bernie could have given this country 5% growth but alas it'll never be 
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Night10194 posted:We'll see what happens. We've never had a modern election where the GOP candidate did not have ANY attempt to get out the vote, and the average of the national polling still has Clinton ahead of where Obama actually won in 2012. Obama's still popular and Clinton has the resources for a big final push while Trump is actually out of moneys. It's not too late for the dream yet. Given how it was a month or two ago, I'll take a Clinton win and a good to excellent chance of the Senate. But daaaaang if she can get 4% from the wide GOTV disparity and/or the polling is inaccurate because it's all over the place, it's gonna be hilarious.
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Goatman Sacks posted:Snowden continues to be an idiot: Is that supposed to be a hard choice?
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DaveWoo posted:The U.S. economy expanded at a 2.9% annual rate in the third quarter of 2016, the fastest economic growth in two years. america is terrible, our economy is failing, trump 2016.
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Chokes McGee posted:Given how it was a month or two ago, I'll take a Clinton win and a good to excellent chance of the Senate. My spooge point is getting rid of Rubio. First because it'll kill his political career, but second because I'll be submitting a flag request to his office on the 9th.
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https://twitter.com/CookPolitical/status/791965977021861889 I like how the question now becomes how much Hillary wins by, and how much of a margin the Democrats will have in the Senate.
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The WaPo tracking poll is swinging wildly, down to C+4 today. It was C+12 just a few days ago. It shows huge swings in independents and white women. Just noise or a real "coming home" among Republicans?
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:Bernie could have given this country 5% growth but alas it'll never be Big growth is actually bad for the economy, as counter-intuitive as that seems. I forget the specifics though but if I remember right, it accelerates the whole boom/bust cycle if you grow too fast.
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Arzyjng is good because it reminds people "don't be complacent", and I am doing more than my fair share of it, but for our brother and sister goons with anxiety disorders , just remember that Hillary's firewall is holding. Trump needs to not only win every swing state, he needs to turn at least one very solidly Clinton state. Pennsylvania is obviously the big prize, and it's still holding firm. Not to mention there was good speculation about secret Hillary supporters- women who won't admit to voting HRC in front of their diehard Trump husbands, but will have their own feminist moment at the polls in secrecy.
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Am I misremembering, or did Y'all Qaeda threaten to shoot any cops or feds or whoever tried to enter the refuge? I remember them threatening to shoot at least some sort of person if they tried to enter the refuge, in addition to their talk of lynching the local sheriff for not giving them everything they wanted. I'm wondering how that didn't get factored in to the whole thing. Ugh. I hope Oregon brings a case against them or something on all the charges they weren't tried on, since there are so many illegal things they did that the federal government didn't even try to get them on. I mean, people made it sound like that was still possible. Is it? The Nevada stuff should bring down the Bundy family but the other idiots need to be brought to justice here too.
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Sky Shadowing posted:Not to mention there was good speculation about secret Hillary supporters- women who won't admit to voting HRC in front of their diehard Trump husbands, but will have their own feminist moment at the polls in secrecy. Oh look what I found, just about this: https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/791981833411887104 https://twitter.com/LPDonovan/status/791994595504689152
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TyrantWD posted:Has there been a presidential candidate not tied to Goldman Sachs? The guy leading Trump's fundraising efforts is second generation Goldman Sachs royalty. Yes, but she also took donations from their employees. And employees of many, many other industries. Trying saying them out loud. "Hillary Clinton is controlled by Big Education" doesn't resonate (((or echo))) the same way that "Hillary Clinton is a puppet of international finance" does. Totally stunned that the techbro lolbertarian who believes in refrigerating cell phones has dumbass lovely opinions.
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Litany Unheard posted:Trump hired a former Goldman Sachs partner back in May as his campaign finance chair, so it's actually entirely wrong? That's interesting, I was not aware of that! Even so, the Clinton camp has close ties with GS going back to the 90s, certainly closer than Trump. Not that it matters, because, you know, Trump. Nocturtle posted:Yes that was my actual point. It was such straightforward theft and he was so obviously guilty that even some of the nullifiers couldn't vote not guilty, maybe out of some nagging concern about "rule of law". The fact that he wasn't found guilty tells you all you need to know about the overall disposition of the jury. That depends, are we talking about the guy with the car or Bundy with the cameras? The latter I really don't think was theft, and I can't say much about the former because all the coverage seems to focus on the Bundys rather than Medenbach. I'd have to know more about the specific cicrumstances, such as whether the Truck was actually removed from the refuge, how often, how it was used, and so on. Necc0 posted:My bro did you even watch any of the web streams as it happened? I did!
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nachos posted:Feels like the last couple weeks have been all Wikileaks poo poo so the electorate races right back to trump and the default C+4-6 state of this race 538's odds are dropping like a rock and me = 
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Oct 28, 2016 14:31
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Considering a lot of people have voted already I would not start freaking out.
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Meanwhile,  https://twitter.com/ChrisSnyderFox/status/791996666488426496 https://twitter.com/ChrisSnyderFox/status/791996856410701824
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AhhYes posted:The WaPo tracking poll is swinging wildly, down to C+4 today. It was C+12 just a few days ago. It shows huge swings in independents and white women. Just noise or a real "coming home" among Republicans? This is the stuff that makes me think we have no clue what the actual percentage is. I like to  as the next Hillary supporter when we get the double digit polls, but it's been all over the place, and it seems like it has been this entire time.I should probably just stick to the Princeton estimate. When that starts ticking up towards double digits, I'll really throw the confetti.
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Oct 28, 2016 14:38
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To all those arzying: How did you make it through 2012, 2004, or 2000?
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dwarf74 posted:The wikileaks nonsense is keeping Clinton in the news, even though they are big nothingburgers. And "being in the news" has been really bad this election. I'm reasonably certain no one gives one single solitary poo poo about Wikileaks. Occam's Razor suggests a lot of Republicans' bluffs are being called and they're starting to come home. Which means "reasonable" Republicans are a mirage and they're showing their true colors 
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Looks like Conway is moving towards the "I will keep you in suspense" argument. A sensible pose.
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Marlows posted:To all those arzying: How did you make it through 2012, 2004, or 2000? Booze. And volunteering. (Not at the same time)
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iospace posted:Meanwhile, I mean two weeks from the election he is taking time out to do a business event for himself, he clearly knows he's screwed despite his rhetoric.
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dwarf74 posted:538's odds are dropping like a rock and me = 87% to 81% = dropping like a rock?
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I mean my fingers are crossed that there's one more major oppo bomb that's going to come out the week of/before the election to try and maximize the swing, but a 4 to 6 point victory is acceptable too.
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Chokes McGee posted:I'm reasonably certain no one gives one single solitary poo poo about Wikileaks. Occam's Razor suggests a lot of Republicans' bluffs are being called and they're starting to come home. Yup. Trump was right; he could murder a man in the street and the Moderate Republicans would be saying "b.b.but the Supreme Court  "The narrative of this election should be "people coming out in droves to vote against Trump and for Hillary despite Republicans not really dropping support of their scumbag bigot" but it will be about how Republicans simply couldn't vote for such a bad candidate.
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TyrantWD posted:
Yeah, agreed. The uptick in lone wolf types who we can't possibly understand or comprehend their political motivations on the other hand, though...
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Marlows posted:To all those arzying: How did you make it through 2012, 2004, or 2000? I was 16 in 2000 so in that election I was busy with other poo poo because I didn't loving vote. The other two? Volunteering, drinking, and the knowledge that at least the GOP guy wasn't planning to jail reporters or ban Muslims or molest women.
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Chokes McGee posted:I'm reasonably certain no one gives one single solitary poo poo about Wikileaks. Occam's Razor suggests a lot of Republicans' bluffs are being called and they're starting to come home. The biggest anti-arzy for this is that the CNN/ORC poll with him at 90% GOP support already still had him down 5% nationally, lol.
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dwarf74 posted:The wikileaks nonsense is keeping Clinton in the news, even though they are big nothingburgers. And "being in the news" has been really bad this election. http://www.270towin.com/maps/princeton-election-consortium Just watch PEC's map, commence arzying if this drops below a solid 270+ for Hillary. That's the Trump+2 map, and he's still losing. 
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:Bernie could have given this country 5% growth but alas it'll never be This was the part of the primary where I realized the media was committed to horseracing it come hell or high water. Bernie Campaign: "Our economic plans are actually going to generate surpluses because the economy will grow at 5% annually..." Experts: "that's optimistic, but somewhat plausible in the near term given the nature of the recovery" Bernie: "every year. For a decade" Experts: 
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Trump doing a little better this past week is nothing new. The same thing happened in September when he managed to keep his mouth shut for a while. It's just so-called moderate Republicans slowly coming back to him. If the Clinton campaign has a big tape or something that drops in time, maybe we'll get the double digit landslide we all want. For now, it's looking like a solid Clinton win/Senate win and that's good enough for me.
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Sky Shadowing posted:Arzyjng is good because it reminds people "don't be complacent", If only the candidate herself said "Don't be complacent, this will be a close race", then maybe it wouldn't be necessary.
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If people are Arzying about losing the Senate, fine. If you are honest to god worried that Trump is going to be President, you're being completely ridiculous.
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Queering Wheel posted:Trump doing a little better this past week is nothing new. The same thing happened in September when he managed to keep his mouth shut for a while. It's just so-called moderate Republicans slowly coming back to him. If the Clinton campaign has a big tape or something that drops in time, maybe we'll get the double digit landslide we all want. For now, it's looking like a solid Clinton win/Senate win and that's good enough for me. Seriously the outcome will be this.
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