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MikeJF posted:To show off the new effect, of course. Never mind it's always been depicted as 3D. Except in Nemesis, when it shatters like glass.
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In First Contact when the Borg start tampering with the Enterprise they set the temperature of Main Engineering to like, 40ºC and yet Picard goes to that room with two layers of his uniform and is barely sweating at the end.
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Oct 28, 2016 20:41
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Pwnstar posted:These dudes aren't even bothered with seatbelts, they aren't gonna wear some scrub environment suit. Or strapping down the spine-crushy barrels in the cargo hold.
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Oct 29, 2016 00:47
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Timby posted:Except in Nemesis, when it shatters like glass. You piqued my interest as to when they went from "eh it's just a holoprojection on the front wall" to "viewscreen" and it looks like they changed the set for Insurrection. First Contact  Insurrection  Nemesis  (and, the hell is with that viewscreen shape?) ...man, I really don't like the Enterprise-E bridge.
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Oct 29, 2016 01:09
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Oct 29, 2016 01:12
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Also since I'm loving around with screenshots, here's an example of how dogshit terrible the consoles were for Nemesis: Don't forget the iPhone tricorders 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
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McSpanky posted:Don't forget the iPhone tricorders I believe they were Palm Pilots with some greebles glued to them.
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Today at work we decided to stream TNG to one of our in store tvs and we knocked out 10 episodes of season 1. Holy crap that was some shaky poo poo.
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Oct 29, 2016 06:11
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Rhyno posted:Today at work we decided to stream TNG to one of our in store tvs and we knocked out 10 episodes of season 1. We're incredibly lucky that TNG lasted beyond one season, considering how expensive it was to produce, how uneven the quality was, and all the terrible poo poo going on behind-the-scenes. Hell, I'm amazed anyone kept watching after the one-two punch of The Naked Now and Code of Honor being the second and third episodes in the series.
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Oct 29, 2016 06:17
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Pakled posted:We're incredibly lucky that TNG lasted beyond one season, considering how expensive it was to produce, how uneven the quality was, and all the terrible poo poo going on behind-the-scenes. Hell, I'm amazed anyone kept watching after the one-two punch of The Naked Now and Code of Honor being the second and third episodes in the series. After Code of Honor my boss told me he should fire me for putting him through that.
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Oct 29, 2016 06:20
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:You piqued my interest as to when they went from "eh it's just a holoprojection on the front wall" to "viewscreen" and it looks like they changed the set for Insurrection.
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Pakled posted:We're incredibly lucky that TNG lasted beyond one season, considering how expensive it was to produce, how uneven the quality was, and all the terrible poo poo going on behind-the-scenes. Hell, I'm amazed anyone kept watching after the one-two punch of The Naked Now and Code of Honor being the second and third episodes in the series. You know what, I think in this time of bounty we tend to fail to remember just how much TV used to be pretty bland to awful as a rule, and how shows specifically for lovers of genre television were few and far in between. Even my favorite shows of the 90's back have awful episodes or even whole seasons where now I would likely just quit watching. You wanted to like what few scraps were being fed you, and hey sometimes they were even decent to pretty good!
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remusclaw posted:You know what, I think in this time of bounty we tend to fail to remember just how much TV used to be pretty bland to awful as a rule, and how shows specifically for lovers of genre television were few and far in between. Even my favorite shows of the 90's back have awful episodes or even whole seasons where now I would likely just quit watching. You wanted to like what few scraps were being fed you, and hey sometimes they were even decent to pretty good! As a kid, I was just fascinated and thrilled to have new Star Trek (and any sci fi in general) on my tv that I happily shoveled up whatever they put out every week. It was always New Ships! New Aliens! New Stories! every week. But I also remember about halfway through the third season saying to my mom (who got me into Star Trek and watched TNG with me) "wow, suddenly this show has gotten really, really good!" It was probably the first time I noticed and saw what "good directing" and "good writing" really meant.
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MikeJF posted:It has no... shape to it. Couldn't agree more. Really wanted to like it, but it's just dominated by clutter.  Everyone seems angled towards an empty space in the middle. Everyone is on a different level. Riker and Troi look really awkward. Picard looks lonely. The consoles look tiny and unimportant which seems an odd choice when this set's sole function is to sell this room as the nerve centre of the ship.  Ugh. It's like they had absolutely no vision for how it should look. Nothing looks important, not even the people.
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TNG had a good bridge, kinda reminded me of a stage and TOS you really got the sense that kirk was the center of the universe
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Oct 29, 2016 14:50
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Starfleet must have great anti-fatigue mat technology. Standing in one spot for even a single hour makes my feet go numb and a whole shift cashiering is a great way to wind up with aching feet. gently caress standing stations. If you're manning a single panel for hours, you should have a chair.
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Dirty posted:
What are those banana monoliths supposed to be exactly? Internal shields? Holoprojectors for the ECH? Surround Sound?
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Starfleet must have great anti-fatigue mat technology. Standing in one spot for even a single hour makes my feet go numb and a whole shift cashiering is a great way to wind up with aching feet. gently caress standing stations. If you're manning a single panel for hours, you should have a chair. They can't, because the Ds9 crew bitched a ton about jem hadar ships having no chairs.
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Dirty posted:Couldn't agree more. Really wanted to like it, but it's just dominated by clutter. it looks like Picard, Riker and Troi are game show contestants. the entire set feels like some kind of Space Who Wants to be a Millionaire wait no, it's weakest link. Picard swivels his chair around asking people on the outer edges of the bridge questions. cheating in space weakest link is so rampant, Riker and Troi are this week's rotating panel judges. PenguinKnight fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Oct 29, 2016 |
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The E bridge looks like it was designed with the purpose of being easily turned into a playset for your action figures. Which is interesting, as a cursory search finds me no evidence that the E ever got one.
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remusclaw posted:The E bridge looks like it was designed with the purpose of being easily turned into a playset for your action figures. Which is interesting, as a cursory search finds me no evidence that the E ever got one. Considering the figures they released for First Contact were friggin' huge (I think they were almost 7" tall), that would have been one big-rear end playset.
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Timby posted:Considering the figures they released for First Contact were friggin' huge (I think they were almost 7" tall), that would have been one big-rear end playset. I read that as 7 foot tall at first. Now slightly disappointed I can't have a 1.25x life-size Picard
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Timby posted:Considering the figures they released for First Contact were friggin' huge (I think they were almost 7" tall), that would have been one big-rear end playset. It's kind of weird they would make them that big, as playsets are kind of a big thing for Star Trek toys, no? Any series where there is a prominent spaceship, kids are gonna want to have something to represent their figures kicking around in it.
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The E-E's bridge is literally cobbled together from pieces of whatever older bridge sets they had laying around, hence it never gels as a design properly
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Also the Romulan Warbird bridge from Nemesis is the E Bridge redressed after it was trashed to look vaguely Romulan. Still looks like crap but less crowded.
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Phimosissy posted:What are those banana monoliths supposed to be exactly? I also just realized Picard's chair is like six inches from that step, he must stumble on that thing every time he stands up.
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Knormal posted:I think they connect to the ceiling , so they're not monoliths but rather awkwardly placed support columns. Jesus, all those little loving ledges all over the bridge. People likely get hurt all the drat time just walking around the thing, not even taking into account when they get into a fight and get thrown around that fucker.
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remusclaw posted:Jesus, all those little loving ledges all over the bridge. People likely get hurt all the drat time just walking around the thing, not even taking into account when they get into a fight and get thrown around that fucker. I'm pretty certain the only Trek bridge that is wheelchair-accessible is the Galaxy class. Defiant comes a close second but there's a little raised section under the captain's chair.
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Drone posted:I'm pretty certain the only Trek bridge that is wheelchair-accessible is the Galaxy class. Just use the transporter, silly goose.
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Tunicate posted:Just use the transporter, silly goose.  No, I refuse to use technological solutions to my problems, and will instead be extremely tedious about things. God, that episode could have kept the same premise and been so much better.
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What was the impetus behind the First Contact costumes, anyway? Aside from the TOS pilots they're the most boring Starfleet uniforms in the entire franchise.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:What was the impetus behind the First Contact costumes, anyway? Aside from the TOS pilots they're the most boring Starfleet uniforms in the entire franchise. The Motion Picture's uniforms are pretty goddamn boring, albeit more "sci fi" in a retro Buck Rogers/Lost in Space sort of way. Honestly, the ones I hate and think are dull are the WoK ones. First Contact makes thinks appropriately 90s dark with the collars bringing just enough a splash of color to keep it interesting.
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Phimosissy posted:What are those banana monoliths supposed to be exactly?
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WickedHate posted:The Motion Picture's uniforms are pretty goddamn boring, albeit more "sci fi" in a retro Buck Rogers/Lost in Space sort of way. Honestly, the ones I hate and think are dull are the WoK ones. The color on the FC uniforms almost seems perfunctory though, like they were thinking "uggghhhh the fans will whine at us if we ditch the color altogether, i guess we can make the undershirts have the colors." Aside from that they're just black jumpsuits with gray shoulders. At least the TMP uniforms had some variety (like at least an attempt at protective gear, and rank braids on the sleeves, and those "belt buckle" biomonitors). The TWOK uniforms might be all red but they at least have flaps and a jacket/pants thing going and some attempt at lines and shapes.
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The FC uniforms have the a ring of the departmental colour on the cuffs too. I like the Ent-E bridge, as it changes up the USS Holiday Inn West Palm Beach look finally, but looking at photos, there are way too many steps and levels all over the place. Someone's going to twist their ankle if they're not paying attention all the time.
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Dirty posted:Couldn't agree more. Really wanted to like it, but it's just dominated by clutter. So many interesting ways to trip on things in this bridge.
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That mood lighting underneath the steps just means more sparks and rocks during explosion time. Same goes for those columns.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The color on the FC uniforms almost seems perfunctory though, like they were thinking "uggghhhh the fans will whine at us if we ditch the color altogether, i guess we can make the undershirts have the colors." I dunno, I think they fit the dark lighting aesthetic of later DS9 and the TNG movies perfectly. The color might technically be "minimal" but it's in just the right spot.
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