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rjmccall posted:it doesn't work. to the extent that it's been successful it's because it's a cheap but functional windows laptop that everyone attaches a keyboard and mouse to use The Surface Book is absolutely 100% not worth the asking price though.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:or u could use wireless headphones remove: lightning splitter dongle add: headphone charging case, second lightning cable
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:or u could use wireless headphones don't make me laugh
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Fabricated posted:We're ordering a lot of them here in Academia-land and people seem to pretty much universally like them. sure, but do they really use the touch screen, or are they just using them as cheap windows laptops because there is definitely a market for portable computers running windows, that is not a position anyone is arguing against
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when nerds are angry about ui changes then you know apple is doing something right. being able to do basic interactions without lifting your hands from the keyboard in the context of the current app is basically all of the benefits of touch screens without all of the stupidity of poking at your windows-based ui with your fingers.
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correct me if i'm wrong about apple's history and future here as i understand it, solely by lurking the 'pos - jobs leaves/gets kicked out of apple - apple ends up with a zillion barely different products and is facing bankruptcy due to irrelevance - jobs comes back, gets rid of the bullshit, and hones the product lines to just a few types, reemphasizes apple's commitment to premium products and innovation over the competition - the ipad and iphone always share cpu generation - jobs dies, and every product line including the cables fragments into a half-dozen items or more each, updating in haphazard fashion, and falling behind every other company in every spec field except build quality, as soon as jobs is deep enough not to dig himself out to kill timb - apple fades into irrelevance or races to the bottom as timb cares more about his ceo bonus than the long term success of the company Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Oct 29, 2016 |
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that's about the size of it, yeah. of course, stymie said as much five years ago, but whatever.
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infernal machines posted:that's about the size of it, yeah. Many people said it
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i figured the beginning of the end was when they updated the memory sizes for their phones, and it went from 16/32/64, to 16/64/128, to force that second tier price purchase
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Oct 29, 2016 23:25
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alternately there's not really anything interesting left to do with the laptop tablet or phone form factor and apple is dumping money into actual r&d to try and figure out something new
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uncurable mlady posted:alternately there's not really anything interesting left to do with the laptop tablet or phone form factor and apple is dumping money into actual r&d to try and figure out something new like watches or cars
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Oct 29, 2016 23:53
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or $185 easilly lost earbuds
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exploding mummy posted:like watches or cars note that I said try, I didn't mean to imply success
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The Management posted:when nerds are angry about ui changes then you know apple is doing something right. being able to do basic interactions without lifting your hands from the keyboard in the context of the current app is basically all of the benefits of touch screens without all of the stupidity of poking at your windows-based ui with your fingers. that'd be fine if they didn't remove keys to make it happen, tactile feedback and muscle memory are still important for laptop keyboards which is why every touch-only laptop keyboard attempted has been a godawful nightmare it could have gone right above the stupidly-large touchpad and had all the same benefits of the current location with none of the drawbacks
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the iPhone and iPad are the only 2 of those devices out there that are honestly worth a poo poo though. I guess the Pixel is supposed to be good but android is terrible. Well more terrible than iOS, but that's not saying much.
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apple is just cornering the future procrastination market with the solitaire bar
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:the iPhone and iPad are the only 2 of those devices out there that are honestly worth a poo poo though. I guess the Pixel is supposed to be good but android is terrible. Well more terrible than iOS, but that's not saying much. i would probably use an android if there was a phone w/a better or more innovative form factor (like that xiaomi phone) and wasn't shitted up software wise, but as many others would probably agree, imessage is what locks me down
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Mister Macys posted:correct me if i'm wrong about apple's history and future here as i understand it, solely by lurking the 'pos then at least the new keynotes would be more exciting
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Oct 30, 2016 01:09
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modern Bluetooth headphones sound as good as wired cans
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yes, in that they sound like cans strung together with wire
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YA BOY ETHAN COUCH posted:modern Bluetooth headphones sound as good as wired cans the last thing i need is another goddamn thing to charge also basically all of them either have proprietary charging cables or use microusb (including beats which apple loving owns) so you can't even use the same cables that your iphone or macbook use
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what are you talking about? my dictaphones sound as good as the day they were recorded
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I've charged my Beoplay h7s once since getting them. I plugged them in when I went to bed and wouldn't you know it they were charged when I woke up. you all spend more time explaining the extra effort it will take to charge them then it actually takes
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sethsez posted:that'd be fine if they didn't remove keys to make it happen, tactile feedback and muscle memory are still important for laptop keyboards which is why every touch-only laptop keyboard attempted has been a godawful nightmare lol no, your hands are covering 70% of where that screen would go when you rest them normally on the keyboard.
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I wonder if we're going to get a cost breakdown of production vs. the previous model for the macbook pro. If it's the chassis improvement that's making it more expensive then I'm totally good with that.
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The previous edition was well built and solid but a bit flexy.
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they got rid of the side vents again so maybe???
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the new macbooks pro are so bad that im unironically looking at those new razer blade stealth/pro laptops e: tho the stealth is a dual core afaik and my 2015 13" mbp is slow as poo poo for compiling triple sulk fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Oct 30, 2016 |
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triple sulk posted:the new macbooks pro are so bad that im unironically looking at those new razer blade stealth/pro laptops the 13" always has a noticeably worse CPU for battery/heat reasons, why would you get it for a dev machine
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when intel was late with broadwell quad cores lenovo shipped a workstation laptop with a dual core processor for some reason
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rjmccall posted:the 13" always has a noticeably worse CPU for battery/heat reasons, why would you get it for a dev machine company gave it to me. i didn't buy it.
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triple sulk posted:company gave it to me. i didn't buy it. same i pick mine up monday lol not the new one, but still
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rjmccall posted:sure, but do they really use the touch screen, or are they just using them as cheap windows laptops Win10 really made the surfaces decent to use because you can switch from a regular desktop feel to the tablet mode easily when the keyboard cover is detached and it works pretty well for what it is. I personally have no need for one at all but they seem to be pretty needs suiting.
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i can see the slides thing, wanting to jot something down during your presentation and then integrate into the slides later is something that happens not sure it really requires a touch screen, probably easier to do with a stylus than a finger, and ofc totally possible with an ipad, but it's nice to not have to move stuff between computers
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Doc Block posted:macvim opens its own window, and while you can use vim controls in it, it also supports the usual OS X stuff like Cmd-S for saving, Cmd-Q for quitting, etc. lmfao
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uncurable mlady posted:alternately there's not really anything interesting left to do with the laptop tablet or phone form factor and apple is dumping money into actual r&d to try and figure out something new lol. sure.
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triple sulk posted:the new macbooks pro are so bad that im unironically looking at those new razer blade stealth/pro laptops get an xps 15
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in one of my art school classes i looked around the circle and it went macbook, macbook, macbook, macbook, macbook, macbook, macbook, my thinkpad with a post-it on it announcing that it's "scrap", macbook
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Shaggar posted:get an xps 15 they haven't updated those to kaby lake yet which i want if i get a new one at some point my concern with something like the razer ones is qc but they basically look like macbook clones in dark aluminum. i've just been looking at the options and it's mostly that, an updated xps. the surfaces pro and book are nice but the former doesn't have enough power and the latter didn't get much of an upgrade beyond the kb base (they're still on 6th gen iirc). tbh i do prefer a 13-14 inch form factor if possible though.
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lmao https://twitter.com/danielpunkass/status/792098187809001472 who the gently caress wants to look at their keyboard when they're using "command line tools including vi, emacs, and others" (lmao)
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