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Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

BiggerBoat posted:

Oh, well, since you put it that way I guess I better vote for Trump just in case. Kidding aside, I don't see the story here; like at all. Or is it just "heh heh Weiner is a scumbag and his penis"?

Too late. +1 in Florida early voting - straight Democratic ticket.

No, you got it. The maddening thing is that despite the fact that there IS NO STORY, it will nonetheless have an adverse effect on the election because the media, in concert, shouting "EMAILS! CLINTON BAD!" for a few days will likely have a measurable effect on polling in Trump's favor.

Hopefully it's no more than a few days, and hopefully the effect is really small, but we aren't in control of any of that.

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skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Seems like good news to me unless I am missing something

Ya this is kinda what I hoped/expected. The election is already decided - this is largely the media trying to milk all the money they can out of it before it's over.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Ogmius815 posted:

New poll from NYT showing Trump up by 4 in Florida. But Trump can't possibly win right? No need to worry.

Even if Trump manages to win Florida he is still behind a huge deficit everywhere else and Florida was already getting a red Senate seat

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

BiggerBoat posted:

Too late. +1 in Florida early voting - straight Democratic ticket.

My area in Florida is sort of annoying because there's a heap of county/city positions that seemingly only have Republicans running in them.

also why do we elect circuit court judges again? Nobody knows who any of the state/circuit judges are outside of some Roy Moore-esque fuckup.

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

Saeka posted:

Because if you put Clinton and Emails in a headline, you get paiiiiiiid

Now I'm imagine that Family Guy skit on undecided voters and 9/11 only it's 'emails'

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Ogmius815 posted:

New poll from NYT showing Trump up by 4 in Florida. But Trump can't possibly win right? No need to worry.

As a Florida resident, we are loving awful and deserve Donald Trump, I hope we are the only swing state that goes red to make ever more apparent how loving awful we are

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


sweart gliwere posted:

This, plus simple time factors. If someone is excited to vote and wants to share their vote, they can write about it, talk about it, share their list of candidate choices, etc. Trying to make a ballot selfie look cool or interesting is pretty much impossible, so they'll definitely waste time and possibly violate someone else's privacy, trying to get a 'good' pic.

My early voting site had a wait over half an hour. Other locations that week in the same state had waits over four hours. Ballot selfies are some :jerkbag: poo poo when your state is run by Republicans who are doing everything legally possible (and more!) to suppress voters.

Go back to bed, grandpa.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

deadwing posted:

As a Florida resident, we are loving awful and deserve Donald Trump, I hope we are the only swing state that goes red to make ever more apparent how loving awful we are

If we go blue again it'll basically be because of Orlando/Miami voting until past midnight (because we hosed up making ballots/making sure polling places are staffed again probably).

Reminder: in 2012 the polls closed at around 7. People were still voting in Miami-Dade at 2 am.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Ogmius815 posted:

New poll from NYT showing Trump up by 4 in Florida. But Trump can't possibly win right? No need to worry.

he'd still have to win three or four other states he isn't gonna win.

Northjayhawk
Mar 8, 2008

by exmarx
New poll by the Salt Lake Tribune

UTAH

Trump 32 (+2)
Egg McMuffin 30
Clinton 24
Johnson 4

Northjayhawk
Mar 8, 2008

by exmarx

Ogmius815 posted:

New poll from NYT showing Trump up by 4 in Florida. But Trump can't possibly win right? No need to worry.

Post your map showing Trump's path to victory.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
Reminder, this currently the absolutely worst case scenario for Clinton right now.

She still wins

http://www.270towin.com/maps/oJOm7

Princeton has it as 99% for a reason

Northjayhawk
Mar 8, 2008

by exmarx
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/792734426912337920

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Mel Mudkiper posted:

Reminder, this currently the absolutely worst case scenario for Clinton right now.

She still wins

http://www.270towin.com/maps/oJOm7

Princeton has it as 99% for a reason

Metamargin dropped to +3.8%, but we don't have post Comey polls yet.

That said, remember, Clinton has a ground game in Florida. Trump does not.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Kekekela posted:

Yeah, being affluent/retired affording you more scheduling flexibility than the working poor is the main thrust I think.

Retired I can see. But from the perspective of a pretty well off working professional, I see early voting (if available) as the obvious and only way to go for people like me regardless of your politics. Most affluent people aren't in the zone of affluence where you completely make your own schedule, own the company etc. and are in complete control of your time. Even among the affluent that's a much smaller minority.

Since most people with money are making the money by working, and often working reasonably long hours, Early Voting would seem like the obvious way to go simply because you can fit it into a busy schedule somewhere over the course of a week or two.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Nessus posted:

OK, so - assuming this drat email file actually does contain a couple of emails Huma sent from Weiner's computer, as opposed to "emails Huma sent to Weiner from work, possibly about dinner or returning the netflix DVDs" - she did not in fact commit perjury, as she very likely legitimately forgot about tapping out a couple of emails in 2011.

Now I realize that she was already guilty due to being associated with Killary Hitlerton, but I just wanted to double check that this isn't like the Bill/Monica thing.

Oh no, it's even dumber than you're expecting. Huma testified to the FBI that she would forward specific files that Hillary wanted printed out to herself, print them out, and give them to her. Hillary apparently doesn't like reading off a screen and prefers paper, because she's old. So the FBI expects that Huma would have State Department emails on her personal devices.

The FBI found a cache of emails on a computer owned by the estranged husband of Huma. The emails are Huma's and thus need whole new warrants in order for the FBI to open and read them. The FBI fully expects that Huma would be looking at State emails on a non-State computer because that is completely in line with her answers during questioning. All the FBI really knows is that these are Huma's emails and can range in DASTARDLY content from "hey, wanna grab drinks Tuesday?" to "FW:FW:Please Print -H".

Given the absolute 6th Degrees of Keven Bacon way in which you must tie these emails, that absolutely no one but Huma has even opened, to Hillary, Director Comey felt it was just his gosh darn duty to send a vaguely worded and opaque memo to a Congress that was in recess about possible facts that may exist after the election happens.

We're all just very lucky that Chaffetz appears to have at least had the self control not to tweet out "FBI reopens the investigation!!!!!" after Comey's first series of memos that detailed how it was theoretically possible that we're living in the Matrix and Hillary was simply colluding with the machines to hide her emails. Just want to keep you in the loop -Jim.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038



Yes, openly pick a fight with the media again. And McMullin. Do it.

Speaking of McMuffin, does he have a ground game in Utah?

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Reminder, this currently the absolutely worst case scenario for Clinton right now.

She still wins

http://www.270towin.com/maps/oJOm7

Princeton has it as 99% for a reason

And that reason is that they don't understand how shifts in polls are correlated across states.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


lol he lashes out at the media even when they're helping him. simply amazing.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Ogmius815 posted:

New poll from NYT showing Trump up by 4 in Florida. But Trump can't possibly win right? No need to worry.

You know what you are right. Trump is gonna win so you might as well get in your bunker or drink yourself to oblivion.

Groovelord Neato posted:

lol he lashes out at the media even when they're helping him. simply amazing.

Trump is like some sort of white privledge god. He fucks over everyone and they still trip over themselves desperate to help him.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Zwabu posted:

Retired I can see. But from the perspective of a pretty well off working professional, I see early voting (if available) as the obvious and only way to go for people like me regardless of your politics. Most affluent people aren't in the zone of affluence where you completely make your own schedule, own the company etc. and are in complete control of your time. Even among the affluent that's a much smaller minority.

Since most people with money are making the money by working, and often working reasonably long hours, Early Voting would seem like the obvious way to go simply because you can fit it into a busy schedule somewhere over the course of a week or two.

Salary can sometimes just say "hey I'm gonna go vote see ya" and make up the time. Shift work cannot due to coverage.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Ogmius815 posted:

And that reason is that they don't understand how shifts in polls are correlated across states.

Whatever happened to you going outside and not constantly panicking

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Party Plane Jones posted:

If we go blue again it'll basically be because of Orlando/Miami voting until past midnight (because we hosed up making ballots/making sure polling places are staffed again probably).

Reminder: in 2012 the polls closed at around 7. People were still voting in Miami-Dade at 2 am.

I'm pretty sure this was all completely by design to gently caress over the Dem rich areas and suppress Dem votes.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Reminder, this currently the absolutely worst case scenario for Clinton right now.

She still wins

http://www.270towin.com/maps/oJOm7

Princeton has it as 99% for a reason

Trump would also get Maines second district. But I agree that nothing would actually happen unless new Hampshire, or Pennsylvania falls.
Amusingly, he could aim for a tie, if he gets Maine statewide and the second district, but not the first.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Ogmius815 posted:

And that reason is that they don't understand how shifts in polls are correlated across states.

Seriously, how do you imagine Clinton loses Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, or Maine at this point?

Clinton has to lose Colorado to lose the election. Give me an explanation for how it happens at this point.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Zwabu posted:

I'm pretty sure this was all completely by design to gently caress over the Dem rich areas and suppress Dem votes.

Why do you think they want to limit early voting?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Ogmius815 posted:

New poll from NYT showing Trump up by 4 in Florida. But Trump can't possibly win right? No need to worry.

Polls showed Romney up by as much as 5 or 6 points, with an average of 1.5, in Florida at the time of the election in 2012. Obama won Florida. Also the polls showed that Romney was ahead in Florida for most of the race. Hillary will not lose the nation's phallic sandbar.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



+2 for Hillary here in FL (wife and I)...straight Dems as our GOP is awful.

We picked a good time to go as we were literally in and out in like 10 minutes at most. I was very surprised. I guess everyone else was still at church or something.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


it'd be interesting to see obama's approval numbers if we weren't so stupidly polarized.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

FlamingLiberal posted:

+2 for Hillary here in FL (wife and I)...straight Dems as our GOP is awful.

We picked a good time to go as we were literally in and out in like 10 minutes at most. I was very surprised. I guess everyone else was still at church or something.
As opposed to the not awful GOP in the rest of the country?

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Facebook already stopped having humans curate trending news stories because the easily-disprovable bullshit the RWM revels in didn't make it past them. Now they're going entirely by an algorithm, which very frequently picks up extremely dubious and even provably false stories. And now THAT'S not good enough for you? gently caress off, Donald. This wouldn't piss me off so much if it wasn't for the fact that there's a huge portion of the population that doesn't know how to evaluate the trustworthiness of news sources and take everything they see posted on facebook that goes along with their pre-existing beliefs at face value.

Kawabata
Apr 20, 2014

You plebians just don't know what epic literature is. You should try reading Stephanie Meyer, E.L. James, Dan Brown, or Ayn Rand.
European goon here.

Most of us are wondering why Weiner and Abedin weren't politically ripped apart after the first pornstar sexting scandal and banned from ever being within a 20 mile radius of another living democrat. We're also wondering why there aren't more serious consequences to what is a blatant attempt at influencing the result of a presidential election by none other than the loving FBI director, an individual that clearly can't legally push a political agenda, 11 loving days before said election.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
You guys are forgetting that Trump's superior ground game combined with the silent white majority are going to lead him to victory!

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Kawabata posted:

European goon here.

Most of us are wondering why Weiner and Abedin weren't politically ripped apart after the first pornstar sexting scandal and banned from ever being within a 20 mile radius of another living democrat. We're also wondering why there aren't more serious consequences to what is a blatant attempt at influencing the result of a presidential election by none other than the loving FBI director, an individual that clearly can't legally push a political agenda, 11 loving days before said election.

Why should Huma suffer because her husband sent dick pics to someone?

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
Can we, as a thread, agree to stop engaging Ogmius? It's time to break the cycle.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

cant cook creole bream posted:

As opposed to the not awful GOP in the rest of the country?

Our GOP won't even let us say the words Climate Change despite being perhaps the state with the most to lose from Climate Change.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Meet the Press today said that Comey will not be able to brief the nation on the contents of the emails before election day.

Get ready for a cloud of ambiguity and accusations that can't be verified until it is too late to matter!

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


Kawabata posted:

European goon here.

Most of us are wondering why Weiner and Abedin weren't politically ripped apart after the first pornstar sexting scandal and banned from ever being within a 20 mile radius of another living democrat. We're also wondering why there aren't more serious consequences to what is a blatant attempt at influencing the result of a presidential election by none other than the loving FBI director, an individual that clearly can't legally push a political agenda, 11 loving days before said election.

any attempt to discipline comey or whatever is going to be taken as a partisan attack, which means it's up to the media to apply pressure and ahahahahahahahahahaha

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Meet the Press today said that Comey will not be able to brief the nation on the contents of the emails before election day.

Get ready for a cloud of ambiguity and accusations that can't be verified until it is too late to matter!
Which is as intended, I would imagine.

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MrFlibble
Nov 28, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Fallen Rib

Pakled posted:

Why should Huma suffer because her husband sent dick pics to someone?

Because she shared a device with him. Committing criminal acts means he was susceptible to blackmail. This is pretty simple poo poo.

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