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an adult beverage posted:Does Tennessee dump Butch and hop back on the carousel for the 4th time in the past 8 years? They should. Kiffin would be good at a mid level P5 school where they'll be happy with good recruiting making them decent - meaning he can be Greg Schiano. Rich Rodriguez is going to start generating speculation, although I imagine they give him another year.
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Oct 30, 2016 18:58
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If Tennessee fans could go back in time, would they fire Fulmer again?
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:If Tennessee fans could go back in time, would they fire Fulmer again? A change needed to happen but knowing what I know now, no, probably not. Just like now a change needs to happen but I'm not sure it's Butch. Definitely DeBord. I'll wait and see what happens the rest of the season before I'm ready to call it quits on Butch.
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Oct 30, 2016 19:23
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Kim Jong Il posted:They should. Kiffin would be good at a mid level P5 school where they'll be happy with good recruiting making them decent - meaning he can be Greg Schiano. Come home RichRod we forgive you, deliver us from exposed fraud of offense dana holgorsen! 
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Oct 30, 2016 19:31
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https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/792738444137078784 If Petrino is moving he should go to the richer UT with weaker rivals on schedule.
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Oct 30, 2016 20:02
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Yeah but gently caress Clay Travis
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First, gently caress Clay Travis, but I was wondering where Butch stands -- I assume the current level is will return but officially in danger next year but is it hot enough that any more losses this year could be the end? I know their schedule is so soft that another loss would necessarily be a bad one.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:First, gently caress Clay Travis, but I was wondering where Butch stands -- I assume the current level is will return but officially in danger next year but is it hot enough that any more losses this year could be the end? I know their schedule is so soft that another loss would necessarily be a bad one. Yeah he'll stick around at least another year unless we drop one to Kentucky or mizzou. Or got forbid Vandy. I don't know if it would be an immediate firing but his seat would heat up considerably.
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Oct 30, 2016 20:09
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Lasagna Pilot posted:https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/792738444137078784 Counterpoint: Petrino should move in front of a speeding pack of 3-ton mopeds. Also, how likely is Houston's middling season going to affect Herman's marketability?
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Oct 30, 2016 20:10
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What UNLV needs to become decent in the two major sports 1. An AD with a track record of turning around dumpster fires 2. A football HC with college experience and a track record of turning around dumpster fires 3. A basketball HC with a track record of turning around dumpster fires Instead will just get crony and/or cheap hires and continually wonder why everything is poo poo
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Lessail posted:Instead will just get crony and/or cheap hires and continually wonder why everything is poo poo Ah, the Mizzou strategy.
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Oct 30, 2016 21:26
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Scarf posted:Also, how likely is Houston's middling season going to affect Herman's marketability? It might be hurting his price tag, but he'll still be gone after Thanksgiving.
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Oct 30, 2016 21:32
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Joey Freshwater posted:Yeah he'll stick around at least another year unless we drop one to Kentucky or mizzou. Or got forbid Vandy. I don't know if it would be an immediate firing but his seat would heat up considerably. I'd agree. It's hard to fire a coach who goes 9-3, even if the expectation was 11-12 wins. It'll be a 9-3 with a number of people thrown under the bus, mind you. Now with how weak the remaining schedule is, any other L's might be enough for Tennessee to dump him and make a run at P.J. Fleck/Jeff Brohm. I don't think they'd be in the Tom Herman lottery since that seems to be Texas' to lose, but I think Tennessee might be able to outbid LSU and push that they only, well "only", play Bama from the West instead of all of them. If Tennessee opens up it's the second best job on the market after Texas, imo.
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Oct 31, 2016 00:09
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Is it? They turned to Jones after pretty much everyone turned them down, and something similar happened with Dooley. I know Jones has recruited very well, and the east is weak - a good coach would win right away.
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Kim Jong Il posted:Is it? They turned to Jones after pretty much everyone turned them down, and something similar happened with Dooley. I know Jones has recruited very well, and the east is weak - a good coach would win right away. Well that's the difference right? After Kiffin and Dooley UT was a tire fire that had next to zero talent. Coffers are pretty full with talent now so in the hypothetical situation of looking for a new HC, it's an easier sell. And I don't remember the search for before Butch being that bad. I think our #1 target was Charlie Strong? Or maybe that was the Dooley search, I can't remember. I think the only person to flat out say no was Kirby Smart and I think we dodged a bullet there anyway.
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Joey Freshwater posted:Well that's the difference right? After Kiffin and Dooley UT was a tire fire that had next to zero talent. Coffers are pretty full with talent now so in the hypothetical situation of looking for a new HC, it's an easier sell. 2009 and 2010 saw Tennessee have two top 10 recruiting classes. Hardly "next to zero" talent.
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Oct 31, 2016 02:03
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I think one player from the 2009 class finished his eligibility.
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Oct 31, 2016 02:07
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Spacebump posted:2009 and 2010 saw Tennessee have two top 10 recruiting classes. Hardly "next to zero" talent. After Dooley there was zero talent. The 2010 class Kiffin pulled in went to poo poo because he was telling them all not to go to class so they could transfer when he left. The 2009 class two of the top three kids transferred and the third, Jansen Jackson, transferred after a year and had recently been tried for murder. Yeah we had next to zero talent when Butch got here.
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Joey Freshwater posted:After Dooley there was zero talent. The 2010 class Kiffin pulled in went to poo poo because he was telling them all not to go to class so they could transfer when he left. In 2011 they had a top 12 class, 2012 a top 20. At a school like TCU (or MOST schools), these would be some of the best recruiting classes in school history.
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Oct 31, 2016 02:13
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Butch has also somehow been offering like 33 scholarships a year for five years straight it's not like he hasn't had a chance to reload
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Oct 31, 2016 02:14
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I think it was Dooleys last year (or the year previous) he didn't bother to recruit a single offensive lineman
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Raku posted:Butch has also somehow been offering like 33 scholarships a year for five years straight it's not like he hasn't had a chance to reload It's already been said that's what's happened though? There's talent NOW. The conversation is that there wasn't any when he got there.
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Oct 31, 2016 02:16
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When are we going to talk about Bob Shoop as a head coach? He left Penn State to go to Tennessee for one year to build his stock on a 11-12 win team that he could parlay into a head coaching job in the SEC.
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Oct 31, 2016 02:19
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Louisville is ranked 5, 0 top 30 recruiting classes. You just can't compete without top 10 classes every year.
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Tennessee's defense has been pretty bad, although having half the starters out for most games hasn't helped. If Shoop came here to pad his resume, he has failed so far.
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C. Everett Koop posted:I'd agree. It's hard to fire a coach who goes 9-3, even if the expectation was 11-12 wins. It'll be a 9-3 with a number of people thrown under the bus, mind you. Tough call, LSU is a significantly better recruiting location but expectations might be too high there and the schedule is tougher like you say. Tennessee might be better if the East remains bad for the next 5 years. I think they would need a Petrino though, P.J. Fleck isn't going to walk in there and start going undefeated in the East every year. Spacebump posted:Louisville is ranked 5, 0 top 30 recruiting classes. You just can't compete without top 10 classes every year. They have the best offensive coach in college football and a cheat code QB.
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Oct 31, 2016 02:31
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And needed a miracle to beat UVA
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Spacebump posted:Louisville is ranked 5, 0 top 30 recruiting classes. You just can't compete without top 10 classes every year. Yeah man it's super easy just hire all the Bobby Petrino's out there and beat out Florida, Florida State, Texas, and Nebraska for the version of Marcus Mariota that can actually do quarterback things in a not-gimmick offense. Also just graduate a bunch of pizza chain magnates and sports apparel CEOs
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Oct 31, 2016 02:59
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I would be shocked if Petrino left Louisville again.
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Oct 31, 2016 03:05
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I am a Bobby Petrino clone hire me Tennessee
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Spacebump posted:Louisville is ranked 5, 0 top 30 recruiting classes. You just can't compete without top 10 classes every year. Right now, CU is balling out while most of our starters are from recruiting classes that were ranked in the 60s.
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Oct 31, 2016 07:19
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Is Barry Odom fired yet? Please fire Barry Odom. Thanks
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Oct 31, 2016 07:36
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Recruits matter and good coaching matters more, happy?
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tactlessbastard posted:I would be shocked if Petrino left Louisville again. I would be shocked if a human being turned his back on Louisville after they took a chance on him when nobody else would but we're talking about Bobby Petrino, not a human being.
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https://twitter.com/alexmarvez/status/794965462123708421
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/795049827885162497
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Nov 6, 2016 20:48
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I mean, the only coaches in the nation who are pretty much guaranteed to get you titles would be Saban and Meyer.
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kayakyakr posted:I mean, the only coaches in the nation who are pretty much guaranteed to get you titles would be Saban and Meyer. And I'd imagine Ohio State or Bama would do whatever it took to keep them, even if it is some huge amount of cash. So if you take those two off the table who would you go after? Dabo? Jimbo maybe? Try to steal Petersen from Washington?
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