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Cingulate posted:If this was in reference to me: that's the opposite of what I wrote. Obama is right; America is doing better socially than it ever has. Okay. Cool. I agree with that. And? Captain Oblivious posted:I agree. But any endeavor of nation building is necessarily an exercise of writing fiction, so I would still say that refusing to employ the myth of the Statue of Liberty is actively unhelpful and just liable to create antagonism with people you could otherwise reach. We who? Rewrite how? I don't think anyone has trouble reading the words. The myth isn't being lived up to now. So what do you mean?
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Endorph posted:the worst part of that is the 75 twitter replies with that anti-dem malcolm x quote, as if malcom x would pop up and go 'yeah sure im for the guy who wants to institute stop-and-frisk nationwide' Is there anything the GOP likes to quote more than dead (and therefore safe) black people
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FadedReality posted:Is it like this everywhere? Does every DEC and Dem Club have a huge majority of old people who pat themselves on the back for being so involved and informed when the reality is they're just low information cheerleaders? Or is my county crazy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng_-HgRfGBY In terms of Emailgate (take 15), I can't help but feel that for every reluctant Trump supporter that decides to vote because of this, there's someone else thinking "holy poo poo Trump might actually win I have to vote now" so hopefully it's all a wash in the end.
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Northjayhawk posted:There's never been a better time to be a black Republican in a swing state. As long as you dress the part and bring signs to show everyone that you are "one of the good ones", you are assured a night of adoration, probably with a callout and public recognition from your orange God. Or you'll get called a protester and a thug and thrown out.
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Squeegy posted:I agree that America is founded on unspeakable genocide and racism What's interesting to me (and I agree with this country being founded on racism and genocide) is how little I hear about how it wasn't exactly the Americans who first came in, started slavery, and in general, hosed everything up. Columbus was an Italian working for the Spanish, African slaves were first brought by the Spanish, what would become America was colonized and ruled by the Spanish, French, and English. I'm absolutely not saying that America is blameless, we definitely carried on the terrible, terrible, tradition, and Americans do have the responsibility to improve the lives of minority citizens (and non-citizens, for that matter), but it gets frustrating to me that our terrible legacy is a uniquely, well, American one.
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OgreNoah posted:It was an architectural thesis, so it's not something you read, unfortunately. I've got an 80pg thesis prep book with all my research, and I've got 16x8 feet of board space and 3d-printed models of the design of my antimonument, and vague memories of the actual presentation, which I mostly blocked out because I was happy to finish, but I did get a very good reception. I'll see if I can pull something together, but I'm in the middle of studying for a professional exam and shouldn't have even taken the time to type that last post. Thanks a lot, and good luck with your exam. Just had dinner tonight with a friend who was MIA for a couple months studying for his architecture license test haha
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Blue Footed Booby posted:
 Endorph posted:gfsincere is a moron, but also people who are constantly making the exact same points but with more mild sauce racism, are freaking weirdos Aww, gently caress you too, with respect. Captain Oblivious posted:The argument is, was, and always has been that the Statue of Liberty has no meaning but what we assign to it and that it has a history that can be used to advocate the hope and freedom of all. At the time of the statue's creation, slavery had only been ended in name. And once again, how the gently caress is that any comfort to the black people that are constantly getting hosed over by the white people that categorically praise the Statue and its ideals? You keep trying to say the Statue represents ideals, and I'm telling you for others it represents reality, and no one gives a poo poo about your or that symbol's ideals if you're still gonna be a racist shitbag at the end of the day. You've had 100+ years to attempt to live up to those ideals and let me tell you from the perspective of a PoC that has to live with yall everyday: you've categorically failed and looking to the Statue of Liberty looks like a circlejerk about how awesome yall think you are, and the response of calling people "morons" who call you out on that fact proves even more that you and the symbol are full of poo poo. negromancer fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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As a white, I would ask my fellow whites to shut the gently caress up. Goddamn.
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Northjayhawk posted:There's never been a better time to be a black Republican in a swing state. As long as you dress the part and bring signs to show everyone that you are "one of the good ones", you are assured a night of adoration, probably with a callout and public recognition from your orange God. No. You just get called a thug and escorted out.
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Election Day will be a day of inclusiveness for me. Gin, bourbon, scotch, rum, cognac, vodka, tequila, ale, stout, and whatever mixers I pick up. Hopefully the Gatorade binge the day before will hold off the hangover.
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My mom voted today, and she told me that there was a old white lady also trying to vote but didn't know how to work the machine so she started yelling out loud that she wanted to vote for Trump and all the republicans. So, in conclusion, at least my mom cancelled out a Trump vote in TX.
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ImpAtom posted:Or you'll get called a protester and a thug and thrown out. Hasn't that happened like 5 times.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there anything the GOP likes to quote more than dead (and therefore safe) black people
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gfsincere posted:I take it this is the tone policing part of your argument. It's not tone policing if you're getting called out for genuinely acting like a jerk. 
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there anything the GOP likes to quote more than dead (and therefore safe) black people
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Mel Mudkiper posted:she would probably be more insightful than the normal hosts She replaces Wolf by end of December. Dick Wolf and Speed Weed hire him on for Law and Order PhazonLink posted:Would Donnie try to get grabby? Considering the alt-right's love of anime porn, yes. It will be a monumental case about digital being's rights. PenguinKnight fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there anything the GOP likes to quote more than dead (and therefore safe) black people
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https://twitter.com/politicalwire/status/792914126221807616 I love watching Christie get owned. It should be a sporting event.
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The logical thing would be, after you vote, you receive a general anesthetic and are woken up when it's all over. Granted there are many medical science reasons you can't do this but hey, just thinking. Also everyone who voted for the loser gets like a gift card or something as a consolation prize.
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ImpAtom posted:Or you'll get called a protester and a thug and thrown out. well, thats only if you are dumb enough to, you know, dress in blue jeans and a T-shirt and stand silently looking at the stage. Clearly you are going to disrupt the speech at any moment, we can't take the chance, and so you'll get thrown the gently caress out. Thats why you need to wear the uniform: a dumbass anti-hillary/Dem T-shirt and carry a tasteless sign.
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Pastrymancy posted:https://twitter.com/politicalwire/status/792914126221807616 I want Bruce Springsteen to invite Christie live on stage and then call him a worthless piece of trash and encourage the fans to throw fruit at him
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Star Man posted:https://twitter.com/kenbone18/status/792907212565929986 Can't tell if she's pregnant, not sure what the *Ken Bone Appeal* is.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there anything the GOP likes to quote more than dead (and therefore safe) black people Women knowing their place.
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Symbols that cannot have their interpretation changed in light of a new context, norms, or audience are dead symbols. Merely pointing out that the ideal a symbol appeals to is not truly universal as it has been experienced in the world does not mean that, that symbol is a dead and empty one. It's dead if the people who participate in it cannot adequately respond, in a real sense by changing that situation, where the symbol is experienced as dead and empty by others in the world. Which is to say if something like "God drat America" is upsetting to one, the useful response is to try to change America, not to be upset that someone else doesn't participate in the symbol you do. Most other routes of responding end up denying the experiences of others.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I want Bruce Springsteen to invite Christie live on stage and then call him a worthless piece of trash and encourage the fans to throw fruit at him
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Majorian posted:It's not tone policing if you're getting called out for genuinely acting like a jerk. Being intolerant of subtle racism is being a jerk. Got it. Any more gems you'd like to add or have you finally found the vaunted proof that I said I speak for all black people or people with melanin?
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[KellyAnne] DONALD! DONALD! IXNAY ON THE USSIA-RAY HOLY gently caress! https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/792908651581235200 Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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I objectively and sincerely want Chris Christie to put a gun in his loving mouth and pull the trigger and if it could be on television so I could TiVo it that would be cool
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https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/792906005965180928 oh, gently caress! Where are we gonna put them?!? I guess the high plains and/or the midwest has plenty of room? Maybe Wyoming, Montana, and western Kansas though, we don't need many more people here in Iowa.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there anything the GOP likes to quote more than dead (and therefore safe) black people Supply-side Jesus? Mel Mudkiper posted:I objectively and sincerely want Chris Christie to put a gun in his loving mouth and pull the trigger and if it could be on television so I could TiVo it that would be cool stop angryposting you goony gently caress.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there anything the GOP likes to quote more than dead (and therefore safe) black people Margaret Sanger and her views on race.
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gfsincere posted:The Statue of Liberty was given as a gift for the US winning the civil war and finally treating black people as people, except the latter didn't happen and still hasn't, so its an empty symbol, and white people seeing it as a beacon of hope and freedom when the black people its supposed to give that to still can't even be treated as people from the aforementioned white people, shows the odds at which people will perceive seemingly unassailable symbols of Americana. While I think your issue with the symbol is legitimate I don't agree with you trying to take away the comfort that it brings others for whom its message resonates. That's where this argument started, not from a self-congratulatory poo poo White People Say place. You told Mel Mudkipper that you wanted White people to start living up to the ideals the country claims it's founded on. I would argue that finding the message of the Statue of Liberty inspirational is vital to that, because regardless of the circumstances of the actual object, the poem is unambiguously positive.
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