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Captain Oblivious posted:Like or dislike is not a concept relevant to the argument being made. Captain Oblivious posted:I don't care if you're trying to reach out and convert people or not. I'm trying to convince you that you shouldn't discard symbols because facts are less important than narrative in achieving any kind of cultural change, rightwards or leftwards. sorry if i used 'like' as glib shorthand for telling people it's imperative they parade under symbols they find hollow because ~~~*~it's just leaving narrative power on the table, man~~~~*~ It's no less a trash argument. e.  lookin' good, new page 
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remusclaw posted:Yeah, because on election day, when they still thought they might win, they definitely knew where they were heading the next day. You don't move to DC the day after the election. It's not like most staffers except the higher level ones would need to be headed anywhere with Mitt. In reality it's not like anyone from the campaign needed to go anywhere with Mitt because LOL he was terrible.
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Spacebump posted:I don't know as much about national campaigns, but state and county level ones that I've been around almost never pay for staffer's gas. That's the reality of working on many political campaigns. I dunno. Someone posted a story last time this came up explaining that it was unprecedented in relation to other modern campaigns and uniquely lovely of them to do. Admiral Ray posted:Yeah but they were working for Mitt "I Shut Down Companies for Fun and Profit" Romney. Romney is still a shitbird and to blame for making GBS threads on his employees.
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Captain Oblivious posted:She's got Che on one boob and...I think an Anarchy symbol on the other? I am now fairly sure that's an anarchy symbol with the A replaced with a marijuana leaf. So 
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quote:EXCLUSIVE: SECOND UPDATE #JewSA Nazi for Trump Likes Include "Jews Did 9/11" and "#Putin Says Obama Created ISIS" 2016 please just never ever end
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Spacebump posted:You don't move to DC the day after the election. It's not like most staffers except the higher level ones would need to be headed anywhere with Mitt. You also aren't necessarily going home the day after if you win, whereas if you lose, what's the point in sticking around?
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Mercrom posted:The circular firing squad is necessary because leftism isn't an ideology it's a testing ground for really stupid progressive ideas and some good ones. Yeah boo on me for taking the words and actions of white people for hundreds of years and historical facts into account. Yep, all generalization with no basis in fact. You're right on the ball there chief, especially with the "a PoCs view on things should be valued at the same level as a PoC Trump supporter", because who would want us darkies messing up this traditionally white space, amirite?
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GalacticAcid posted:Ok I've avoided weighing in on this but I think the time has come for my Statue of Liberty take. Here it is. Eyyy, I'm postin' 'ere!
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Will this actually have repercussions? http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/30/former_bush_ethics_lawyer_richard_painter_files_complaint_against_fbi_director.html quote:The former chief ethics lawyer at the White House during George W. Bush’s presidency has filed an ethics complaint against FBI Director James Comey. In an op-ed published in the New York Times on Sunday, Richard W. Painter writes that he filed a complaint against the FBI for violating the Hatch Act, "which bars the use of an official position to influence an election." He filed the complaint with both the Office of Special Counsel and the Office of Government Ethics.
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alpha_destroy posted:Do I like the Statue of Liberty. Yea. But I am also 50% Italian American and 50% Irish American. So, my family was the huddled masses that America (reluctantly) accepted. Do I like the DoI? Ya. But that is cause I think it has a good message despite what the original authors intended. True. My grandfather was a literal concentration camp survivor before he came to the U.S., so I hold good feelings for the statue personally. I can understand seeing it as a huge symbol of hypocrisy too, though, because, welp, American history.
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Admiral Ray posted:So it's like working for a start up. Why get paid when you'll have the satisfaction of knowing you helped change the country for the better! It's more like it looks pretty good on a resume. And almost all staffers get paid, the only ones not paid are literally at the lowest rung of the ladder. (They're called Fellows now instead of unpaid interns.) But, you're right in that the enthusiasm and belief in your candidate/party is what helps grease the wheels vis-a-vis pay.
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remusclaw posted:You also aren't necessarily going home the day after if you win, whereas if you lose, what's the point in sticking around? Post Campaign Staff meeting for upper level staff, making sure you get your last pay check for lower level staff. thetoughestbean posted:It's more like it looks pretty good on a resume. And almost all staffers get paid, the only ones not paid are literally at the lowest rung of the ladder. (They're called Fellows now instead of unpaid interns.) But, you're right in that the enthusiasm and belief in your candidate/party is what helps grease the wheels vis-a-vis pay. Everyone gets paid, except the unpaid interns and fellows but a significant amount of people get paid poo poo for the hours they are expected to work.
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shut UP shut UP shut UP!!! trash
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Spacebump posted:Everyone gets paid, except the unpaid interns and fellows but a significant amount of people get paid poo poo for the hours they are expected to work. Oh absolutely. One point of clarification, though, is that unpaid interns and fellows are one and the same.
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Avshalom posted:shut UP shut UP shut UP!!! trash Lol if you think Union Pacific is going anywhere
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Avshalom posted:shut UP shut UP shut UP!!! trash nah Squeegy posted:Eyyy, I'm postin' 'ere! Lol (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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farraday posted:You guys are fooling yourselves if you think a Republican political operative who also happens to be female will get black listed for being on the Trump campaign. Just look at how long Sarah Palin was able to stay relevant despite being utterly incompetent.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Just look at how long Sarah Palin was able to stay relevant despite being utterly incompetent. Sarah Palin was more of a curiosity, as in "how could someone achieve power being that stupid?" on top of the whole Alaska thing so she was almost like "oh poo poo I forgot people lived there!" sorta thing. And a lot of 40+ white dudes wanted to take her to pound town.
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gfsincere posted:Sarah Palin was more of a curiosity, as in "how could someone achieve power being that stupid?" on top of the whole Alaska thing so she was almost like "oh poo poo I forgot people lived there!" sorta thing. Also some people mistook her for Tina Fey doing a publicity stunt.
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Sarah Palin was just a warm up act for Michelle Bachmann bringing the super saiyan crazy.
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GalacticAcid posted:Ok I've avoided weighing in on this but I think the time has come for my Statue of Liberty take. Here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u0mKh_m0Rc&t=60s
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gfsincere posted:And a lot of 40+ white dudes wanted to take her to pound town. This is prejudice....
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Potato Salad posted:Missed page 1488 Don't worry, we'll reach 8814 before the end of the month
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Tom Guycot posted:Sarah Palin was just a warm up act for Michelle Bachmann bringing the super saiyan crazy. As a Minnesotan, I feel compelled that this particular state shame was elected in 2006. Minnesota! We try to keep our poo poo together but all we get remembered for is Jesse Ventura and Michelle Bachmann...
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thetoughestbean posted:As a Minnesotan, I feel compelled that this particular state shame was elected in 2006. Minnesota! We try to keep our poo poo together but all we get remembered for is Jesse Ventura and Michelle Bachmann... What about Al Franken?
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Spatula City posted:I wouldn't chalk up the most recent argument as a leftist circular firing squad. The civil rights movement has been tied to progressivism, but they're uneasy allies, and that's really what this argument seems to be showing. The Democratic primary was worse. I don't know if they were trolls, but a few people were pushing pretty hard "no war but class war" and calling civil rights issues "distractions" perpetrated by the corporations to occupy the progressive movement's time. I think most of the people now posting in USPOL are some shade of progressive, but some are much less interested in civil rights than others, and many have spent absolutely no effort learning about their own privilege and trying to avoid doing the lovely things that white people do to non-white people all the time. Never trust a leftist who dismisses civil rights. That mother fucker will be voting R the second their student loans are forgiven or they bump up a tax bracket. 9 times out of 10.
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I've made it a point to bring her up to any Republican acquaintances who acted baffled about Trump's uprising. If Palin becoming outrageously popular in your party wasn't a huge red flag then you're hopeless. It seemed to have caused some sort of a 'oh poo poo' spark in many of them as they realize that their party really has lost its marbles.
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Pastrymancy posted:What about Al Franken? And Amy Klobuchar!  EDIT: and Keith Ellison, too bhsman fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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ParliamentOfDogs posted:Never trust a leftist who dismisses civil rights. That mother fucker will be voting R the second their student loans are forgiven or they bump up a tax bracket. 9 times out of 10. Well, it's been said that people get more conservative as they age.
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NewMars posted:Also some people mistook her for Tina Fey doing a publicity stunt. I have a story about this! Back in the day, I was living in NoVA, and it so happened that Gorbachev was scheduled to give a lecture at GMU, where my girlfriend-at-the-time was going to school. So we went. When we got there they gave everyone an index card and had you write a question on it, and the deal was that they'd collect them during the lecture and pick the best ones for a Q&A session at the end. So I wrote my question, and they collected it. And that's the story of how Mikhail Gorbachev, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and the last General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, was asked the question "can you see Sarah Palin from your house?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayWsbCqKhMw Gorby posted:Well, I liked her performance, isn't she an actress?
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Squeegy posted:Well, it's been said that people get more conservative as they age. Pretty sure that's a "common sense" myth that's been debunked by actual stats by now? My recollection is that most people's political leanings become fairly locked in by around 16-20. Key word being most, of course.
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Squeegy posted:Don't worry, we'll reach 8814 before the end of the month We'll reach it before Statue chat ends.
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thetoughestbean posted:As a Minnesotan, I feel compelled that this particular state shame was elected in 2006. Minnesota! We try to keep our poo poo together but all we get remembered for is Jesse Ventura and Michelle Bachmann... At least Ventura, for all his crazy got the light rail system off the ground.
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flashman posted:This is prejudice.... I'd cheat on my girlfriend for one night with Katrina Pierson, so here we are.
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I wonder how many seniors can't deal with the new voting machines that are rolling out.
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I just realized, that's a plothole. Mr. Poopypants wasn't a parasite, the only parasite was the uncle, but he was dead at that point. So where did Cousin Nicky come from?
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Spatula City posted:I wouldn't chalk up the most recent argument as a leftist circular firing squad. The civil rights movement has been tied to progressivism, but they're uneasy allies, and that's really what this argument seems to be showing. The Democratic primary was worse. I don't know if they were trolls, but a few people were pushing pretty hard "no war but class war" and calling civil rights issues "distractions" perpetrated by the corporations to occupy the progressive movement's time. There was a lot of this in YCS at the time. I remember when I argued against this attitude, one person's response was "I'm a literal Communist, but I'm voting Trump because of people like you."
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bhsman posted:And Amy Klobuchar! Can't mention the great Keith Ellison without an obligitory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6M_2fTACeI
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