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From a cursory glance at those new boss battles and their attack patterns, it seems like all three can be blunted to some degree by using a runic ability. (In my case I have Exdeath's Grand Cross.) Are there any limitations about what they cannot block, beyond typing limitations (Grand Cross hits both BLK/WHT) or AoEs (in that the rest of the party still gets hit)? Or are even "unreflectable" abilities still perfectly fine to feed the treewizard?
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Lechtansi posted:Did my half price debuff pull - got Strago's mace, Wakkas ball, and the grand prize Faris BSSB. I normally have perma-Ramza on my team, because I have shout, but now i'm tempted to have two debuffers on my team. I usually run Ramza + Faris. Ramza gets lifesiphon or banishing strike plus a breakdown or full break. RM is Mako Might Faris gets mug bloodlust plus a breakdown or full break. With both shout and mug her BSB hits hard. I've also run Wrath + Steal Power and that works too. RM is Battleforged. With that you can pretty much chain BSBs.
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Oct 31, 2016 06:23
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NGDBSS posted:From a cursory glance at those new boss battles and their attack patterns, it seems like all three can be blunted to some degree by using a runic ability. (In my case I have Exdeath's Grand Cross.) Are there any limitations about what they cannot block, beyond typing limitations (Grand Cross hits both BLK/WHT) or AoEs (in that the rest of the party still gets hit)? Or are even "unreflectable" abilities still perfectly fine to feed the treewizard? Anything BLK is attracted by Magic Lure effects (Magic Lure, Runic Blade). Anything BLK/WHT is attracted by Grand Cross effects (Grand Cross, Indomitable Blade). This doesn't affect AoE targeting, and NAT abilities ignore it entirely. "Piercing x" is coded as BLK so it still runics just fine. The U++ might be better to use Magic Lure on rather than a Runic effect; Piercing Darkra is the guy's least threatening move in a vacuum given that it's single target, on his weaker stat, and has no additional effects, meaning Magic Lure + the 6* dark-resist accessory pretty much totally invalidates it, leaving you to focus on his much more worrisome physical damage. However, Grand Cross/Indomitable Blade is a definite consideration for the U+ CM, especially if you got lucky enough to pull the Cloud Staff on Larsa 2 (it's FF12's only native hastega, and that's a fight that is made much easier with hastega, as well.)
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Oct 31, 2016 06:38
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I am a little miffed I pulled my neato Gabranth SSB and all of the bonus battles resist, null, or absorb dark  Back to the bench with you, physical darkness user. Doesn't even have 5* knight! Pfah!e: U+ was easier than the Ultimate imo. Damage output at the start was way less bananas, and by the time Maser Eye is going out you can have Wall and all your mitigation up, so as long as you know it + the slowga are coming the fight isn't bad at all. e2:  I'm...I'm gonna leave that U++ until reddit finds a better way than "Shout, holy damage, try your best." He's a huge sack of HP, and as soon as I hit the midway point, even if I've been lucky enough up to that point that he hasn't permanently taken someone vital out of the fight, he starts spamming fast AoEs and destroys my whole party. I don't want to leave those crystals behind, but I don't see any way I can win this one. Even synergy Vaan with all synergy gear spamming his BSB doesn't really do enough damage. Panic! at Nabisco fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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Oct 31, 2016 06:45
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U++ wasn't much of a pain for me, but that might be because Minwu BSB is kinda nuts.
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Oct 31, 2016 09:14
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Ultimate was a nail-biter for me, but I one-shot it, albeit with two people dead. U+ I one-shot without even any trouble. I just gave up after my seventh attempt at U++. Every time he decides to do something like stop Y'shtola, which is basically a run-ender.
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Oct 31, 2016 09:21
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  This, for the record, is equivalent to a 6* Vegas + with max augments. This was not worth 3 million gil. This would not be worth a 5* Dark Matter if I had literally any other reason to use a 5* Dark Matter. This is less worth 16000 greens than a pair of Rosetta Stones would have been. I am saying use your extra pumpkin opportunities as Rosettas, here, in case I was not clear. Two 6* Witch Hats are a good deal, though. FF13 mage armor is surprisingly rare considering it's one of the few realms that has all of the mages.
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Oct 31, 2016 10:45
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U++ with Vaan (BSB) Greg (BSB) Kain (SSB) Tyro (SG+BSB) and Eiko (BSB). Hella defense and HP on this guy, and that's even accounting stacking Vaan's BSB and Armor Breakdown command along with Mug Bloodlust, plus Shout, plus Crit+ effect from Eiko. My strat was beatstick until loving dead. Actually worked first try, unlike normal Ultimate which took a couple S/Ls to figure out the optimal opening with the same team. Kept getting picked off early on there before I could get all the mitigation up.
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Oct 31, 2016 11:04
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KataraniSword posted:
OTOH what if combining it up to 8* makes it my strongest XIII synergy weapon?
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Oct 31, 2016 11:06
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paperwind posted:OTOH what if combining it up to 8* makes it my strongest XIII synergy weapon? Then you'll still have problems running it with a CM team as mentioned earlier on. The only person who can use throwers in-realm is Hope, and he's a mage.I mean, if you're at the point where your best options for FF13 stuff is "throw Jecht/Refia/Tidus at a problem until it dies" then it's absolutely worth it, but if you're at that point you might have a few problems coughing up the three goddamn million gil 8* reforge cost.  That's a lot of gil dailies, considering your normal ++ daily run is 90 stamina for about 300k.
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Oct 31, 2016 11:43
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Bartz can use throwing weapons too, and he's my go-to spellblade, so I actually get a decent amount of use out of synergy throwers for realms where I don't have tons of synergy. I'm nowhere near CM-ready in any realm that isn't V.
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Oct 31, 2016 11:51
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Bartz can use throwing weapons too, and he's my go-to spellblade, so I actually get a decent amount of use out of synergy throwers for realms where I don't have tons of synergy. I mean, definitely combine it up to 7*/++. But burning the resources to reforge it is... questionable at best.
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Oct 31, 2016 12:10
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CaptainPsyko posted:I mean, definitely combine it up to 7*/++. But burning the resources to reforge it is... questionable at best.  Don't make the same mistakes I did. I don't actually know the increase from ++ to +++ as far as attack, but it's not going to be enough to bowl you over.
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Oct 31, 2016 12:17
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All bonus battles down, had the chance to pull out my new toys (Zeus Mace and Cloud Staff) for the U+ and U++s too. Had to gamble on Daedalus not using Piercing Darkra, since my only magical mitigation was Ark Blast/Mist Overload and it hits for over 7k. Got very lucky and he never Stopped my party, too. Penelo did about 26k with her commands after the first use, which was pretty nice for a character without EnHoly. Sadly the Zeus Mace is pretty much doomed to become a Rosetta Stone; the Cloud Staff is better all around (except that it's a Staff rather than a Rod), and the Holy Rod trumps it all around as it just trades 7 MND for a +20% Holy damage boost.
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Oct 31, 2016 13:03
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This might be a dumb question but when do we receive the 25 mythril? Didn't get it when the event launched and didn't get it with the morning bonuses.
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Oct 31, 2016 14:03
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Armitage posted:This might be a dumb question but when do we receive the 25 mythril? Didn't get it when the event launched and didn't get it with the morning bonuses. I had to relaunch the app entirely before it gave me the stuff.
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Oct 31, 2016 14:46
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So the Halloween music for the home screen is just Dancing Mad, as cut into Kefka's VGCW intro theme. Not as remix-y as I've come to expect of this game, but I'm down with the clown.
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Oct 31, 2016 14:47
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Attestant posted:I had to relaunch the app entirely before it gave me the stuff. I did and didn't get the 25 mythril. I just emailed support and asked them what's up. Armitage fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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Oct 31, 2016 15:01
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Really digging this version of Kefka's Theme. I wish there were music options in game so I could carry it over into screens I actually spend any time in.
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Oct 31, 2016 16:11
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So I should contact support if I didn't get the mythril and pumpkin/hat when I logged in? I've definitely relaunched the app multiple times since midnight. I guess I'll wait until after work for it to sort itself out just in case before emailing them about it.
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Oct 31, 2016 16:32
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Armitage posted:I did and didn't get the 25 mythril. I just emailed support and asked them what's up. If it makes you feel any better, multiple people are reporting the same issue on reddit.
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Oct 31, 2016 16:33
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Yeah, I didn't get my 25 Mythril or bonus items either. Just gonna have to wait and see what happens. Hey, look on the bright side, maybe we'll get apology Mythril out of this!
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Oct 31, 2016 16:47
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The gyshal shop did update and I grabbed a hat and pumpkin from it.
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Oct 31, 2016 16:52
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Yeah I don't think you get the hat/pumpkin in your gift box, you have to buy them from the greens store.
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Oct 31, 2016 17:15
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bilperkins2 posted:Yeah I don't think you get the hat/pumpkin in your gift box, you have to buy them from the greens store. I would also like to buy that 25 mythril from the greens store please.
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Oct 31, 2016 17:16
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I'm finally at the point where I have enough rosetta stones to think about fully upgrading something, but I'm a little confused about the process. Does fully augmenting something preclude me from fusing or reforging in the future? What is the difference? Also, is it still worth augmenting one of the lower end Excaliburs or should I be holding out for a Lightbringer or something similar instead? bilperkins2 posted:Yeah I don't think you get the hat/pumpkin in your gift box, you have to buy them from the greens store. I got one of each in my inbox and there are two more of each available in my greens store. I wasn't around for last Halloween though, maybe it's a one time thing?
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Oct 31, 2016 17:20
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Sesquiculus posted:I'm finally at the point where I have enough rosetta stones to think about fully upgrading something, but I'm a little confused about the process. Does fully augmenting something preclude me from fusing or reforging in the future? What is the difference? Lower end excaliburs are just fine, as long as you have a decently honed saints cross or holy physical soul break. You can fuse or reforge in the future, no problem. Make sure you augment one stone at a time, it's tedious but there's a chance you'll snag a major augment and save yourself a handful of stones. Never happened to me, mind you. A 5* SSB sword will take 20 augments. Fuse it to 6* and you get 5 more augment slots, as well as five more levels to pump scarletite into. Fuse it again, you get another five augment slots and five levels and so on. Inge fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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Sesquiculus posted:I got one of each in my inbox and there are two more of each available in my greens store. I wasn't around for last Halloween though, maybe it's a one time thing? I also received one of each and 25 mythril in my inbox. I don't think it's supposed to be a one time thing. Probably just a glitch on their end, hopefully, the rest of you get your spooky goodies soon.
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Oct 31, 2016 17:48
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I better get my 25 Mythril so I can pull on Larsa 1
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I lost this one.   (Edit) Ok, won after a few rounds of S/L, then minor party tweaks, then some more S/L so I won't get hosed by confuse. Sheesh, this feels like the hardest CM released on global so far.  Magic Lure + Gigas Armlet feels like almost mandatory, or at least heavily recommended. Otherwise you'll be forced to decide if you wanna get hosed by single target spells, or Maser Eye. Less long time players may have to make due with Magic Lure + Defend, with some lesser elemental resist relic. Medica from Penelo was surprisingly useless for healing, but massively valuable for the 15000 damage it would do. Vaan felt maybe a little wasteful, but none of my other recent FF12 pulls were actually all that useful for the fight, so Lifesiphon + Pyroclasm it was, with Thief's Revenge for self heal. SB's of note: Intercession from Penelo Pyroclasm from Vaan Gallantry from Bach (His default, Low +Wall%, still handy) Attestant fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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Oct 31, 2016 19:14
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U++ wouldn't be too bad... if that motherfucker didn't stop people forever
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Oct 31, 2016 19:57
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What the poo poo is up with this Ultimate fight, it is hard as hell! Those things are just making GBS threads AoE that is doing over 1k with Protectga / Shellga up, and the single target magic is hitting for almost 3k. This is harder than last week's U+ and U++ fights. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Oct 31, 2016 |
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Oct 31, 2016 19:57
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Snazzy Frocks posted:U++ wouldn't be too bad... if that motherfucker didn't stop people forever I'm now there, and christ, this thing is tanky too. I'm really feeling my lack of native Holy-damage soul breaks now. And yeah, eternal Stop or Slow from random attacks is real fun too. Grizzled Patriarch posted:What the poo poo is up with this Ultimate fight, it is hard as hell! Those things are just making GBS threads AoE that is doing over 1k with Protectga / Shellga up, and the single target magic is hitting for almost 3k. That's the easy fight this event!
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Oct 31, 2016 20:06
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:What the poo poo is up with this Ultimate fight, it is hard as hell! Those things are just making GBS threads AoE that is doing over 1k with Protectga / Shellga up, and the single target magic is hitting for almost 3k. Paralyze/Sleep takes them out of the fight. Quezacotl is your best option for Paralyze if you don't want to bring Lullaby or use a Reno RW.
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Oct 31, 2016 20:10
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beat U++ with many layers of mitigation Full breakdown (Fran SSB) MAG+DEF Breakdown (Vaan BSB) ATK+MAG Breakdown (Agrias SB) ATK Breakdown MAG Breakdown DEF Breakdown Shellga Protectga Wall Probably could have used a Mug Bloodlust (ATK+DEF Break) but I haven't gotten around to creating/honing one up
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:What the poo poo is up with this Ultimate fight, it is hard as hell! Those things are just making GBS threads AoE that is doing over 1k with Protectga / Shellga up, and the single target magic is hitting for almost 3k. Attestant posted:I'm now there, and christ, this thing is tanky too. I'm really feeling my lack of native Holy-damage soul breaks now.
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Oct 31, 2016 20:18
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ApplesandOranges posted:Paralyze/Sleep takes them out of the fight. Quezacotl is your best option for Paralyze if you don't want to bring Lullaby or use a Reno RW. I don't have a mage team so that's out the window :/ Basically I have to figure out a way to do it with an all physical team (with one mage that can bring Ramuh and Thundaja) and that's it.
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Oct 31, 2016 20:19
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I beat the U++ by farting Blinks all over the place. Coincidentally how I beat the U+ CM, too, just took a lot of S/L to find the right build and get the timing on Ruin Impendant just right. Turns out Arihman aint poo poo with Basch and Gabranth drawing all their attacks.
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Oct 31, 2016 20:20
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i just blitzed down ahriman prime with a CM team in one go and managed to only lose two guys. i have pretty good SBs and synergy for XII though
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I don't have a mage team so that's out the window :/ Try a Ninja then - they don't need a lot of MAG, and RES isn't a concern with them. Ramza's a solid option since he can also carry Lullaby to Sleep them, and then Bolt Veil once they're out of the fight. Alternatively, any of the Ninjas can carry Phantasm if you don't mind Sleeping them one by one.
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