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GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


I bought a mac mini for all my TV media needs in 2011 and it's still working great.

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qirex
Feb 15, 2001

GATOS Y VATOS posted:

I bought a mac mini for all my TV media needs in 2011 and it's still working great.

I tried that but couch mousing was too shameful

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news
i have the old apple tv and use it to watch netflix and this is pretty great apart from the locale restrictions from netflix

this dumb opinion brought to you by me, forums poster mister super awesome

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Shaggar posted:

so do most other commands that will be up there. also apple keyboard shortcuts for cut/copy/paste are unusable

actually the command key is positioned better than the control key for commonly used shortcuts and i wish windows had swapped alt and ctrl either on the keyboard or in the software at some early stage.

ctrl is a very awkward key to use on a regular basis

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Sagebrush posted:

actually the command key is positioned better than the control key for commonly used shortcuts and i wish windows had swapped alt and ctrl either on the keyboard or in the software at some early stage.

ctrl is a very awkward key to use on a regular basis

beos was right

bone app the teeth
May 14, 2008

my old apple tv doesn't support 2fa so it's basically bricked to me

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



bone app the teeth posted:

my old apple tv doesn't support 2fa so it's basically bricked to me

you can't use one-time passwords?

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

bone app the teeth posted:

my old apple tv doesn't support 2fa so it's basically bricked to me

yes it does

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Sagebrush posted:

actually the command key is positioned better than the control key for commonly used shortcuts and i wish windows had swapped alt and ctrl either on the keyboard or in the software at some early stage.

ctrl is a very awkward key to use on a regular basis

alt is a terrible key for shortcuts that do not also involve other modifiers.

alt+c alt+x are unusable while control+c control+x are very comfortable

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Shaggar posted:

alt is a terrible key for shortcuts that do not also involve other modifiers.

alt+c alt+x are unusable while control+c control+x are very comfortable

shagger was right

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Shaggar posted:

alt+c alt+x are unusable while control+c control+x are very comfortable

alt and cmd are in the perfect spot for your thumb
....do you not have thumbs?

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

r u ready to WALK posted:

alt and cmd are in the perfect spot for your thumb
....do you not have thumbs?

shagger has thumbs for business r2 365 enterprise

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

qirex posted:

I tried that but couch mousing was too shameful

you can palm the old magic pad and still use 1 or 2 fingers :quagmire:, but in addition to tripling its price, apple, in their infinite wisdom, made the force touch version 16:9 format and now it's impossible unless you have Shaq hands

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

i dont normally keep track or care what apple does but uh they replaced the function row with a touch thing and stripped out everything but usb-c ports? like no video out either?

though i gather they left the 3.5mm in still lol

Tiny Bug Child
Sep 11, 2004

Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror
the startup noise is silly. lots of times when I turn my computer on I think, what if there was a life and death situation where I had to use my computer but also stay quiet, like hiding from a terrorist or something

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

r u ready to WALK posted:

alt and cmd are in the perfect spot for your thumb
....do you not have thumbs?

Thumb index is not as comfortable as pinky index/middle/ring

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

LethalGeek posted:

i dont normally keep track or care what apple does but uh they replaced the function row with a touch thing and stripped out everything but usb-c ports? like no video out either?

though i gather they left the 3.5mm in still lol

it still does everything the last macbook did, you just need a dozen $25 adapters to do it

bone app the teeth
May 14, 2008

Last Chance posted:

yes it does

how so? https://support.apple.com/en-us/ht205075

i have a 3rd gen

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Tiny Bug Child posted:

the startup noise is silly. lots of times when I turn my computer on I think, what if there was a life and death situation where I had to use my computer but also stay quiet, like hiding from a terrorist or something

it seems like something that would be easy to turn on or off in a preference pane

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




r u ready to WALK posted:

alt and cmd are in the perfect spot for your thumb
....do you not have thumbs?
you must have baby hands on hinges if alt and especially cmd is a comfortable key to press with thumb repeatedly

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

cinci zoo sniper posted:

because it's normal thing to care about


:cawg:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




attitude like that killed moocow

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004


i dont remember, but i know i had to turn on two factor in the last month and had to re-sign into my devices including an old apple tv in my bedroom and it worked

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

quote:

What if I use two-factor authentication on a device running older software?
If you use two-factor authentication with devices running older OS versions, you might be asked to add your six-digit verification code to the end of your password when signing in. Get your verification code (https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204974)from a trusted device running iOS 9 and later or OS X El Capitan and later, or have it sent to your trusted phone number. Then type your password followed by the six-digit verification code directly into the password field.

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

Sagebrush posted:

actually the command key is positioned better than the control key for commonly used shortcuts and i wish windows had swapped alt and ctrl either on the keyboard or in the software at some early stage.

ctrl is a very awkward key to use on a regular basis

do you not have a pinky finger or something?

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

huh

quote:

The Federal Aviation Administration has capped the maximum allowable size of laptop batteries on flights to 100 watt-hours. That explains why Apple’s 2015 pro model contains precisely a 99.5 watt-hour battery.

so they couldn't have made a thicker laptop with more battery

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

Pinterest Mom posted:

so they couldn't have made a thicker laptop with more battery
The 2016 15" MBP has a 76 Wh battery though

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

USSAr posted:

those things already exist in the keyboard though

some of them even exist in the function keys the touch bar replaces

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

touch bar is dumb. esc key and function keys are good

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Linguica posted:

The 2016 15" MBP has a 76 Wh battery though

oh, right

the 2015 has 99.5 Wh

make the laptop thicker jony

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

cinci zoo sniper posted:

you must have baby hands on hinges if alt and especially cmd is a comfortable key to press with thumb repeatedly

i have normal length fingers so sliding the thumb over a little bit is easy

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




carry on then posted:

i have normal length fingers so sliding the thumb over a little bit is easy
width of my palm makes it feel slightly odd to me

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"
from the depths of albinoblacksheep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zCLwDXj89k

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
apples to crappies

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004


lol i remember this vid

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

a guy at my work once devoted tens of minutes in a row to trying to convince me the apple keyboard is inherently superior to all others

At one point he was showing me how to use the shortcuts as though I didn't know how the command key worked and this would be a revelation to me and went, "doesn't that just feel natural" with the biggest :smug:face I have ever seen

confirmation bias is a hell of a drug

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

osx puts ctrl and alt in the wrong place.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die
tim cook?... more like tim reheat :smug:

wide stance
Jan 28, 2011

If there's more than one way to do a job, and one of those ways will result in disaster, then he will do it that way.
ctrl + c and ctrl + v is pretty much biomechanically perfect

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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



i really like the macbook keyboard and the white keyboard; not a fan of the clacky mechanical things with giant buttons

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