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acumen posted:I know it's possible to beat things without wall but for most people it's a must-have for every high-end fight since it came out. I'd sooner drop shout than wall - never leave home without it. I've got a native Shout but not Wall, so usually I do RW it, but for this fight Lightning's SSB was so good at melting the Azers that I couldn't really afford to give that up or I wouldn't have enough killing power to get rid of them before their AoE and single-target damage started piling up. I'm just underequipped for this one either way, I think.
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# ? Oct 31, 2016 23:44 |
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SageAcrin posted:
You'd probably have an easier time dropping the double cuts for breakdowns. Move the banishing to Basch, stick one of Power/Magic Breakdown on Ramza and the other on Vaan.
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# ? Oct 31, 2016 23:46 |
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Waldean posted:You'd probably have an easier time dropping the double cuts for breakdowns. Move the banishing to Basch, stick one of Power/Magic Breakdown on Ramza and the other on Vaan. Nah, 800-850~ attack depending on the phase+break resistance says "screw your breaks unless you have like three separate types of them". Gotta love bosses that slam hard into the softcap. Trust me, it only matters for the ITD move. (I originally had Faris up there where Rosa was-Rosa was far more effective due to MBlink, the Medica and, sadly, Diaga doing more damage than Faris. ) (You might be also assuming I have R4 levels of Breakdowns. I don't-they're more like R2. My file is amazingly new, but I have great SBs at least. )
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:08 |
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loving finally Lenna can ditch her white robes
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:17 |
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For those wanting to crush the U fight, I set my RW to level 80 Lightning with FF12 synergy and a Kaiser Shield. Will take out all the little adds in 2 casts and do about 2/3 of the bosses health to boot. QKq6
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:18 |
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Swift Bolt is the easiest way of dealing with the U IMO, especially if you can't mitigate the damage without wall. A 3* ability with a fast cast time that hits for like 6-8k aoe? Yes please. Two ninjas isn't the worst idea either, as we should be fighting Omega again in a few weeks, so having two Swift Bolts will be handy there.
KnoxZone fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Nov 1, 2016 |
# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:27 |
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Boogaloo Shrimp posted:For those wanting to crush the U fight, I set my RW to level 80 Lightning with FF12 synergy and a Kaiser Shield. Will take out all the little adds in 2 casts and do about 2/3 of the bosses health to boot. QKq6 Same, have a XII sword and ATK accessory along with the Kaiser on my Lightning at qcqe If you're looking through your inventory/vaults for ice resistance, the Arctic Armlet (no RS), Gigas Armlets (II) and Skybreaker Earrings (III) are the best options and well-worth sacrificing some +Atk or +Res boosts.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:30 |
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KnoxZone posted:Swift Bolt is the easiest way of dealing with the U IMO, especially if you can't mitigate the damage without wall. A 3* ability with a fast cast time that hits for like 6-8k aoe? Yes please. Two ninjas isn't the worst idea either, as we should be fighting Omega again in a few weeks, so having two Swift Bolts will be handy there. Man I need to level up some other ninjas apparently, I've got Ramza at level 83 with that and it was hitting for 3k. I also need to get some more resistance gear. It sucks because there's an ice resistance armlet behind one of the nightmare dungeon bosses, but it's on the one record I can't make any headway in, of course. My synergy for this realm is nonexistent though, all I've got is 3 of Balthier's Aldebarans which are...not very useful for me right now. One or two more sundailies should get my mage team up to a decent level, and then it's just a matter of grinding out orbs to get the skills and hones up to snuff. Still need to get some better mage SBs though, I've somehow ended up with 8 physical BSBs and only 1 magic one. And half of my magic-related SSBs overwrite each other.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:38 |
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Posted on the last page the 7* Witch's Hat without Synergy, but I'll post it side by side with the Synergy'd Witch's Hat. So...uh yea, that hat has some decent stats with Synergy. Not that I really run mages to begin with.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:40 |
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Something else to remember; Even if you don't run mages in general, if you haven't done the mage Nightmares, that hat'll get synergy bonuses from Nightmare Synergy. So, there's that. We haven't even gotten the last of those yet.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 00:47 |
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What the actual gently caress is maser eye
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:25 |
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Fresh FF9 soul breaks: Garnet levels up her Ramuh into a BSB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ErLtF8KaI Quina's BSB involves food and kitchen utensils: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLiiJtMrro Kuja plays with his balls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t0H1JwFkbs Beatrix has a very shiny sword: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZKAQFgW0Hk ... and has no problem swinging it around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTx3J_FZixc
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:29 |
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Is there a reason they have Ramuh so involved with Garnet's Relics? Three of them involving summoning him.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:40 |
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Inge posted:What the actual gently caress is maser eye Also for the guy saying earlier that Mateus is made for mage meta, please remember that mateus resists all elements but lightning and the ice azers NULL all elements but lightning. Mages are much, much more beholden to elemental resists than physical teams, and the fight basically makes all mage BSBs/SBs without a lightning or nonelemental component useless. It definitely favors phys teams unless you're an actual crazy person and honed up multiple copies of thundaja or something.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:42 |
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Dr Pepper posted:Is there a reason they have Ramuh so involved with Garnet's Relics? He's the only eidolon to actually have a conversation with Garnet, so there's that
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:47 |
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Dr Pepper posted:Is there a reason they have Ramuh so involved with Garnet's Relics? Ramuh is the first Summon Garnet meets and the first Summon she can use (because of plot/MP requirements). Probably just a small call back to FF6 when Ramuh is the only who reveals the stuff about Terra since IX is all about the small references. Hope stole Alexander is the real answer. Varance posted:Quina's BSB involves food and kitchen utensils: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLiiJtMrro The split second of Steiner in the background of the OSB behind Garnet and Beatrix, the best. Also, Quina, the Halloween BSB. Inge posted:What the actual gently caress is maser eye A Laser eye, but with microwaves.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 01:54 |
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Dr Pepper posted:Is there a reason they have Ramuh so involved with Garnet's Relics? Ramuh is the first summon that Garnet gets after having all of her eidolons forcibly extracted from her. He talks with her at length about what her power is and what that means, so it's the one summon that has significant meaning other than "I can summon this".
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 02:05 |
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giving gabranth a Gigas Armlet (moderate I/F/L resist) and Draw Magic kinda clowned the U+ CMKnoxZone posted:Swift Bolt is the easiest way of dealing with the U IMO, especially if you can't mitigate the damage without wall. A 3* ability with a fast cast time that hits for like 6-8k aoe? Yes please. Two ninjas isn't the worst idea either, as we should be fighting Omega again in a few weeks, so having two Swift Bolts will be handy there. Yuffie with Swift Bolt, +30% ninja damage RM, and Heathen Frolic Sarabande was definitely MVP for me on that fight. and that's putting her up against Crushing Blow Lightning. Prav fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Nov 1, 2016 |
# ? Nov 1, 2016 02:06 |
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Ultimate++ downed. PCecil (LV84) | Battleforged | Excalibur (FF4)/Armguard (5* RS)/Fateful Coin | Banishing Strike R4/Saint Cross R3 (BSB: Paladin Force) Faris (LV80) | Viera Virtuoso | Yoichi Bow (5* RS)/Heavy Coat+++ (3*+++ RS)/Vossler's Gauntlet (5* RS) | Magic Breakdown R4/Thief's Revenge R3 (SB: Sea Lord's Barrage) Exdeath (LV80) | Devotion | Holy Rod (5* RS)/Exdeath's Cuirass/Silver Pinion | Memento Mori R3/Curaga R5 (SBs: Grand Cross, Neo Almagest) Ramza (LV85) | Dr. Mog's Teachings | Hammerhead+++ (4*+++ RS)/Chanter's Djellaba (5* RS)/Aries | Power Breakdown R4/Full Break R2 (SBs: Shout, Tailwind) Y'sholta (LV74) | Mako Might | Judicer's Staff (5* RS)/Chanter's Djellaba (5* RS)/Cat's Bell | Curaja R4/Protectga R1 (SB: Stoneskin II, Medica II) RW: Divine Judgment (Hope BSB) Yeah this fight is brutal as hell, but my successful run had Y'sholta get stopped and I didn't even notice. Each burst command from Exdeath was doing about 30k a shot (the Holy Rod having +Holy Damage was a nice bonus), which was particularly amazing considering by the end even PCecil wasn't hitting for 9999x2 with EnHoly Saint Cross. It did get close to a wipe once SSII inevitably wore off (Ramza and Y'sholta had dropped and one more big AOE would have killed off everyone else), but an EnHoly Paladin Force finished the last 40k HP off by itself and got me the win. Just ignoring his gimmicks and crushing him beneath as much raw damage output as I could muster to avoid him overwhelming me with stopped party members or the like.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:A really strong, scripted physical darkness attack Keep a dark resist accessory on your healer (you do have one, you just got it from Mateus and it boosts res with synergy to boot) and make sure protect and wall are up and you should be fine...for a whole. Yeah figured out that it was physical, and that's why I was getting smashed. Couldn't bring protect so used trueblade of legend to take the edge off. Now I'm trying to deal with daedalus! This guy are the hardest U++ boss so far, I think
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 02:44 |
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I've got a native Shout but not Wall, so usually I do RW it, but for this fight Lightning's SSB was so good at melting the Azers that I couldn't really afford to give that up or I wouldn't have enough killing power to get rid of them before their AoE and single-target damage started piling up. I'm just underequipped for this one either way, I think. Yeah, multi-boss Ultimates are almost always the hardest. Just wait until 4 months from now when we get the Vayne event when we have to fight U+ Mandragoras. That fight is utterly loathesome for anyone. Even long-term JP players had trouble with it.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 02:46 |
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Zurai posted:Yeah, multi-boss Ultimates are almost always the hardest. Just wait until 4 months from now when we get the Vayne event when we have to fight U+ Mandragoras. That fight is utterly loathesome for anyone. Even long-term JP players had trouble with it. Anything we should do to prepare for that battle, relic- or ability-wise?
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 02:50 |
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https://twitter.com/FFRK_Official/status/793269685106073600 Don't worry guys, the FFRK Twitter is on the case.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 02:55 |
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Zurai posted:Yeah, multi-boss Ultimates are almost always the hardest. Just wait until 4 months from now when we get the Vayne event when we have to fight U+ Mandragoras. That fight is utterly loathesome for anyone. Even long-term JP players had trouble with it. Ahriman I managed to get through with Indomitable blade and attacking the clones to build gauge before his 50% slowga, so I could bust out Shout on top of it and nuke him down. I'm struggling with Daedalus, actually - his HP stock and stop proccing is ridiculous and I don't have any Holy SBs except intercession (Penelo is level 1)or stop resistance accessories. I might try a one character damage mage meta with a Hope BSB RW, in 200 more greens I'll have at 8* Stoneblade which should give me about 540+ Mag on a fully dived Maria, and have literally everybody else mitigating, which should free some space for someone to run Stop for low mind overwrites.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 03:00 |
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Alxprit posted:https://twitter.com/FFRK_Official/status/793269685106073600 Yeah, I just sent a support email myself, in case they need those to determine who did and did not receive.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 03:33 |
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Ugh--just don't quite have enough damage to beat the U+ fight CM, but can do it if I get like two SC double-casts. Hate how I'm pretty much forced to use a certain party and the XII relics I currently have mean jack. edit: God I did it. Took a desperate attack command from Vaan with no abilities left, unshouted. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Nov 1, 2016 |
# ? Nov 1, 2016 03:34 |
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Zurai posted:Yeah, multi-boss Ultimates are almost always the hardest. Just wait until 4 months from now when we get the Vayne event when we have to fight U+ Mandragoras. That fight is utterly loathesome for anyone. Even long-term JP players had trouble with it. Yeah, I can imagine. The regular version of the Mandragoras is unfathomably painful already in every concievable way, and the U+ has them all start hasted.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 03:50 |
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the Orb of Zot posted:Yeah, I can imagine. The regular version of the Mandragoras is unfathomably painful already in every concievable way, and the U+ has them all start hasted. That's actually standard to all versions of the fight, because they start with Haste in FF12. ETB posted:Anything we should do to prepare for that battle, relic- or ability-wise? Not really. It's actually possible to do it with a nearly brand new account by that point thanks to Cid Raines's BSB, but it took me more than 4 hours of reloading. The Cid's Mission on my main took longer. It's just a bullshit fight, like every version of the fight, except that they have a stacking all stats (and I do mean ALL stats, including accuracy and evasion) buff and heal every time one dies. I guess you can make sure you have Sleep, Blindga, and maybe Cry honed, because all the Mandragoras are vulnerable to one status, and those three statuses can help neuter three of the five of them for a decent chunk of the fight. Of course, then you have to worry about the Queen whacking the sleeping Pumpkin Star and waking it up then having it immediately turn around and Scream at the party, silencing your healer and/or your Raines BSB user.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:16 |
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Shell / Protect is all I've got, yeah. You need Magic Breakdown for a fight life this. Also Full Break, even rank 1, will probably be a huge help for Mateus if you're bringing a Lightning RW to kill the adds in two rounds. Blizzajas should be much more manageable with proper mitigation applied. Really you should be bringing some sort of defensive breakdown to every Ultimate or higher fight.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:22 |
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Zurai posted:That's actually standard to all versions of the fight, because they start with Haste in FF12. FF12 in FFRK is an abject study of "just because this fight was designed like loving poo poo in the original game doesn't mean you have to be faithful and make the fight terrible in your mobile game". I mean, they won't give us FF5's bosses being cripplingly weak to instant death poo poo to justify making those kinds of skills, so why do they feel like they need to be so goddamn accurate to literally the worst parts of FF12 (examples: mandragoras, elder dragon, god help us if we ever get an actual Ultima fight, it's like Yunalesca but worse)
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:28 |
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KataraniSword posted:FF12 in FFRK is an abject study of "just because this fight was designed like loving poo poo in the original game doesn't mean you have to be faithful and make the fight terrible in your mobile game". Hey, look on the bright side. The Mandragoras in FFRK don't flee at hyper loving speed to five separate corners of the room they're in every 30 seconds after casting their crippling status effects.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:35 |
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KataraniSword posted:FF12 in FFRK is an abject study of "just because this fight was designed like loving poo poo in the original game doesn't mean you have to be faithful and make the fight terrible in your mobile game". This. Holy poo poo FF12's boss design just seems to be such a huge issue, especially since so many bosses resist every element or all but 1 element. It's legit ridiculous.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 04:37 |
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If I don't get my mythril before the 12 banner ends my salt will be at dangerous levels
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:00 |
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IcePhoenix posted:If I don't get my mythril before the 12 banner ends my salt will be at dangerous levels I'm pretty sure you'll get it in time to pull your Danjuro
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:03 |
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ETB posted:Anything we should do to prepare for that battle, relic- or ability-wise? There is a lot that's basically down to RNG and status effects. That said, pulling Larsa's Cloud Staff will help, as it's the only XII Hastega, allowing you to RW Wall. You definitely want to bring a Dancer (so Penelo for CM). While AoE does help, bursting them down too quickly just leads to all of them spamming AoE Headbutt in return. If you're going for Mastery, you need both Holy and Dark attacks; if you have Gabranth's SSB that's an easy way to fill that element, but otherwise your only Dark options for the CM are Gabranth/Vayne using Darkness abilities, or Ashe using Ultima Weapon.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:04 |
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U-DO Burger posted:I'm pretty sure you'll get it in time to pull your Danjuro That would give me a 6+ which would be pretty cool tbh
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 05:47 |
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I pulled on Banner 1 of FF12. I got Gaia Gear(ehn) and Fran's SSB(yay). So I'd say it was good, I needed some good FF12 synergy.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 06:56 |
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Reminder: Overnight server maintenance starts in an hour. Don't hoard stamina for Tuesdaily, spend it all now.
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# ? Nov 1, 2016 07:58 |
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CaptainPsyko posted:Reminder: Overnight server maintenance starts in an hour. Don't hoard stamina for Tuesdaily, spend it all now. Thank for the headsup, I was going to start rolling over my stamina for Tuesdaily. (edit) Datamining is in progress now @ https://www.reddit.com/live/xuz3ahncb1cj Some interesting things like global multiplayer beta, several lucky draw banners, boss revenge event, somekind of boss event that starts today/tomorrow, orbfest in december, etc. Attestant fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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# ? May 16, 2024 18:32 |
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We're translated through Angeal; the XI Grandmasters event isn't translated, so it's anyone's guess when we get Ayame and Curilla. Some Gold Fes-related stuff- the Coliseum starts when maintenance is done, it appears; the orbfest part isn't until December. Rematch dungeon coming. More of these themes. Multiplayer!
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