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Maxwell Lord posted:She's been under investigation for decades and never even indicted, so she's either not corrupt or she's so good at corruption that we should put her in charge just to benefit from her expertise. This is the part that confuses me, honestly. She's either clean or so god damned good at hiding it that nothing has ever been found. Either way, what more could you ask for in a modern politician?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I'm surprised I haven't heard much from the Cold War generations about all this Trump and Russia stuff. He's looking to be about as close to an actual Manchurian Candidate as possible in reality, and nobody seems outraged enough.
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This is kinda petty and childish but who are some ardent Trump supporters on Twitter I should follow on election night? I wanna see the meltdown.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:liz mair is basically tearing her hair out right now that dems/media haven't found the holy grail of trump oppo that she claims is totally out there To be fair, there probably is quite a bit out there that Clinton's team could find. Like, there's pretty much no way he hasn't, like, cannibalized a child in a Satanic ritual at some point or other. But they probably won't find out about it in time for the election, regrettably.
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cult member at airport posted:In private, Burr quips about gun owners shooting Clinton So like is making death threats on public figures just not secret service visit-worthy anymore?
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I'm surprised I haven't heard much from the Cold War generations about all this Trump and Russia stuff. He's looking to be about as close to an actual Manchurian Candidate as possible in reality, and nobody seems outraged enough. "If it takes a Russian stooge to bring down KKKlinton, then so be it." - A True Patriot
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The actual cutest.  https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/793272062529839104
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Kro-Bar posted:Trump getting some solid newspaper coverage. I have posted this article before but it really is worth a read - "White Noise" from The American Prospect on the organized white supremacist currents in conservative media and politics. The "intellectual" wing of American white supremacy was grouped around the small journal The Occidental Review, and found its political expression in Tom Tancredo's convention maneuvers to promote anti-immigrant policies in the GOP platform. The article is from 2004.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:So like is making death threats on public figures just not secret service visit-worthy anymore? Keep in mind how well they've been performing over the past few years... 
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I'm surprised I haven't heard much from the Cold War generations about all this Trump and Russia stuff. He's looking to be about as close to an actual Manchurian Candidate as possible in reality, and nobody seems outraged enough. 
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axeil posted:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/north-carolina-early-vote-tracker.html this is good and encouraging but there isn't a ton of evidence that hillary is beating aggregate polling by 4.5 points across a variety of states OH and IA both look worse for dems than in 2012 for example (GA too i think), and FL has been somewhat mixed. NC/NV/CO have looked pretty good and AZ has been better than 2012 but not clear if it'll be good enough to flip it in other news i don't believe this for one minute but file it into the "lol if true" pile https://twitter.com/AndreaChalupa/status/793263468447236096
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Yaws posted:This is kinda petty and childish but who are some ardent Trump supporters on Twitter I should follow on election night? I wanna see the meltdown. Bill Mitchell is the first name that comes to mind.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I'm surprised I haven't heard much from the Cold War generations about all this Trump and Russia stuff. He's looking to be about as close to an actual Manchurian Candidate as possible in reality, and nobody seems outraged enough. That part of the American electorate has spent the last 30 years listening to right-wing talk radio. It's why even back in the Bush days we had a Bush spokespeep deriding "the reality-based community".
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Nessus posted:You got a source for this? I've been hearing it's both up generally, and significantly up with Democrats, in various locations. I mean if you're saying "worse in some" to mean it's worse in like, Wyoming, I guess you're technically accurate - the best kind of accurate - but not, you know, truthy. https://twitter.com/electproject Nevada seems to be the only state that shows the disparity in GOTV operations between Dems and Republicans that the media reporting would lead you to believe.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I hope it's stuff like this: to be honest i'm not sure why the hillary campaign wasn't doing this from day 1
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TyrantWD posted:https://twitter.com/electproject
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sexy loving muskrat posted:nonsense, that's an economic frustration newspaper a newspaper for stutterers
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:this is good and encouraging but there isn't a ton of evidence that hillary is beating aggregate polling by 4.5 points across a variety of states There is no secret Trump sex tape. I both believe this and also desperately want it to be true because dear god do I not want to see or hear about a Trump sex tape.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:this is good and encouraging but there isn't a ton of evidence that hillary is beating aggregate polling by 4.5 points across a variety of states To be fair if we win NC/NV/CO we kinda win the election, don't we?
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TyrantWD posted:https://twitter.com/electproject Yeah, this has me worried. On the other hand, I feel like GOTV most makes its presence known on E-Day itself, since the sort of people coming out for early voting tend to be motivated hard-partisans. Anyway. we'll see, but my gut feeling is that this is not anything more than a 4-5 point race and that Senate control is basically a coinflip. Not ideal, certainly.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I'm surprised I haven't heard much from the Cold War generations about all this Trump and Russia stuff. He's looking to be about as close to an actual Manchurian Candidate as possible in reality, and nobody seems outraged enough. Casimir Radon posted:The party that invented McCarthyism sold out to the Russians. McCarthyism was first and foremost anticommunist. Putin is not a Communist.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:There have been plenty of oppo bombs, they just never stick for more than a week True. I was thinking more in terms of hoping for something between now and the election that will flip the house and give Trump the crushing defeat he deserves.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:this is good and encouraging but there isn't a ton of evidence that hillary is beating aggregate polling by 4.5 points across a variety of states Oh yes that's an excellent point. We only have really detailed info on early voting in North Carolina due to the way they report it so it's a bit spurious to extrapolate things out to other states. Still. If Clinton does win NC then Trump's winning maps are:  A crazy collapse of Clinton support in the Midwest or  Clinton somehow losing PA. That's it. Those are pretty much the only scenarios you can lay out where Trump wins if Clinton wins NC and they are already pretty loving unlikely. I mean this is it, this is the POST A MAP for this election. Yes, Trump could win in this scenario but I have no loving idea how he manages to win MI+WI+IA OR PA+NH+IA+ME-2. It's a really tall order. axeil fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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Duscat posted:That part of the American electorate has spent the last 30 years listening to right-wing talk radio. It's why even back in the Bush days we had a Bush spokespeep deriding "the reality-based community". That was Cheney, and the quote was more him fellating himself about being powerful enough to change reality than about right wing epistemic closure.
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GalacticAcid posted:McCarthyism was first and foremost anticommunist.
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smug n stuff posted:I just want to say I love your avatar--one of the most bizarre governmental ""scandals" of recent memory. Well clearly I did not give it to myself.  I am somewhat serious about this "Illuminati" question. Evidence in the Saville case suggests that similar things were happening in association with a Catholic Boy's Town charity in Iowa and a black dude named Larry King with close ties to Capitol Hill and a gay escort ring that visited the White House multiple times. I was really surprised at all this because I researched the whole Project Monarch conspiracy theory and its various threads in order to write a comic book some ten years ago, but the Saville thing has confirmed at least some of this stuff is real. And it has to do with Jeffery Epstein. Who is both Trump and Bill Clinton's personal friend. So..
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axeil posted:Oh yes that's an excellent point. We only have really detailed info on early voting in North Carolina due to the way they report it so it's a bit spurious to extrapolate things out to other states. Still. If Clinton does win NC then Trump's winning maps are: Bastard ain't gettin' Michigan, I can tell you that.
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GalacticAcid posted:McCarthyism was first and foremost anticommunist. A friend of mine asked me when the democrats started caring about the Russians and I told him when the United States became more left wing than Russia did
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Periscope of the White House halloween party - Barry starts doing some classic dad-dancing to "Thriller" about a minute in.
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axeil posted:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/north-carolina-early-vote-tracker.html How did Obama do in the early voting in 2012?
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Night10194 posted:Bastard ain't gettin' Michigan, I can tell you that.
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I don't understand 538 sometimes- their last update had two solid polls for Hillary- B+ rated in New Hampshire, D in Michigan. But her percentage dropped by .8%. But it's almost okay. We're almost there. We just have to hold on.
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Casimir Radon posted:He operates like a Soviet, probably because that's where he got his start. Authoriatiarian impulses do not make someone a Communist. Authoritarians are very popular on the American Right.
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parcs posted:Realistically what will happen if Trump wins? Best case scenario is 4 years of dumb Republican policies getting rubberstamped
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axeil posted:Oh yes that's an excellent point. We only have really detailed info on early voting in North Carolina due to the way they report it so it's a bit spurious to extrapolate things out to other states. Still. If Clinton does win NC then Trump's winning maps are: I think we can safely eliminate the 1st map. The ONLY map I can see that won't get someone predicting a Trump win laughed right out of the room is the second one, and thats pretty drat unlikely.
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Night10194 posted:Bastard ain't gettin' Michigan, I can tell you that. Yep. Way too many minority voters in MI to make it possible. WI is a maybe but even then he still loses. Which is why I think that first scenario is completely out and the only chance is playing for a 269-269 tie and swinging it to the House. I'm pretty confident in saying that NC is in the bag for Hillary at this point along with VA. With that you don't need much to win the election and in many scenarios it's already won.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I hope it's stuff like this: yes but they are both equally bad because emails
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