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Harrow posted:Yeah, that's the other caveat I forgot. If there somehow actually is fire to go with the smoke for once in Clinton's life, then she could probably be impeached successfully, though to be fair, if she really did do something Watergate-level illegal, she should be. And, on top of that, she'd probably follow Nixon's example and resign if she got caught doing something actually, legitimately bad, so we'd hopefully be spared the impeachment trial altogether. The GOP has had Killary under a microscope for decades and they still couldn't find any wrongdoing on her part aside from EMAIL EMAILS EMAILS. What makes you think she will all of a sudden become some super evil corrupt entity now?
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DeathSandwich posted:Didn't Bill got impeached largely because the Blue Dogs brought out the knives and turned on him? Impeachment requires a supermajority of 67 yeas and the 105th congress only had 55 republicans. With how much more polarized politics has become since then I just don't see 10+ democrats flipping unless some truly gnarly poo poo comes out against her that actually sticks. If the entire 105th Congress only had 55 Republicans, the impeachment would never have happened. You're thinking about the Senate -- they don't decide whether to impeach, but whether to remove from office following an impeachment.
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vyelkin posted:iirc you need two thirds of the Senate to vote for an impeachment and at present there is literally zero chance of either party ever holding 67 out of 100 Senate seats. Well thats good to know. Ein Sexmonster posted:Seriously. The national polling was at +1 to +2 Obama at this time in 2012. Yeah, this whole election is feeling like that movie, the great white hype. Trump is going to get knocked the gently caress out and everyone is going to scratch their heads wondering how when it was so neck and neck the whole time!
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Agrajag posted:The GOP has had Killary under a microscope for decades and they still couldn't find any wrongdoing on her part aside from EMAIL EMAILS EMAILS. What makes you think she will all of a sudden become some super evil corrupt entity now? I don't think that! I was just offering a hypothetical.
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Agrajag posted:The GOP has had Killary under a microscope for decades and they still couldn't find any wrongdoing on her part aside from EMAIL EMAILS EMAILS. What makes you think she will all of a sudden become some super evil corrupt entity now? I honestly don't believe 95% of politicians could undergo the same amount of scrutiny and come out unscathed. Could you imagine Trumps or Ryans entire email history leaking?
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Deified Data posted:In the very least we can rest assured that we're electing the most thoroughly vetted president in American history. There's nothing shocking left to learn about HRC. what we know right now is only the tip of the corruption iceberg. Just wait until they start thoroughly investigating the clinton foundation thats where all the bodies are hidden
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gently caress oyu OP I'll drink responsibly when I'm dead.
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Agrajag posted:The GOP has had Killary under a microscope for decades and they still couldn't find any wrongdoing on her part aside from EMAIL EMAILS EMAILS. What makes you think she will all of a sudden become some super evil corrupt entity now? It's a hypothetical to create a scenario where impeachment and removal from office is possible. The only reason that was gonna work in 1974 (which prompted Nixon to resign after Goldwater basically told him that the game was up) was because a good chunk of the Republican Senatorial delegation was going to vote in favor of removal. That's what would have to happen to sink Hillary, unless there's a catastrophic wipeout of Democratic Senatorial candidates in 2018. Even in the 1999 impeachment, though, you had 5 or so Republicans voting against removal (including the noble senator John Chafee of Rhode Island, father to a martyred son, Lincoln Chafee, who would be beating Trump by 20 points now).
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http://www.bizbucksguy.com/index.cfm?pID=6816 This guy is teaching a two day course. gently caress this guy. Of course my boss signed me up. gently caress this, back to my desk.
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Wyld Thang posted:The media wins no matter if Trump or Clinton win. Both are revenue generators. You'd think this, and it's true for at least this election cycle, but IIRC CNN's overall ratings are in the toilet and the way they've conducted themselves this year isn't gonna help. For a brief moment they found their balls and had a moment of self-realization, but only after Trump dared to insult one of their own* and stiff them during meetings. Once the rage wore off, they went right back to EMAILS EMAILS HORSE RACE EMAILS at first opportunity, and the narrative was not once "jesus loving christ this again why." It is not biased reporting to say that. She defended herself without issue in front of a nothingburger panel for hours. She was cleared of wrongdoing (not incompetence, though) by the FBI. The mail Comey sent could not have possibly been a vaguer fishing expedition. This has been going on for a year plus, and nothing has come of it. There is no excuse to post main page headlines taking the loving emails seriously. * I like Andersoon Cooper though, he's awesome They have been actively complicit in enabling the rise of the Fascist Yam Man from the non-stop coverage of any time Clinton sneezes, and any headway they made towards respectability during the last few months is gone. They've learned nothing. I look forward to watching them wilt away on the vine.
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Augus posted:gently caress oyu OP I'll drink responsibly when I'm dead. we don't have a drinking problem we have a drinking solution 
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I bet there's going to be lots of impeachment threats constantly but even the GOP has to know they can't gently caress that chicken without 2/3 of the Senate and not looks like the idiots they were in the 90's.
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also, in coming from the future, im laughing my rear end off at these threads because all the concern about hillarys health was actually justified because we ended up with 7 years 10 months of president tim kaine, which of course led to the technological singularity and our colonization of the moons of jupiter
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Koirhor posted:Tracking Poll! oh god did the one black guy LA Times bothers to sample change his mind again 
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Koirhor posted:Tracking Poll! Packing Troll. Makes you think.
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Radish posted:I bet there's going to be lots of impeachment threats constantly but even the GOP has to know they can't gently caress that chicken Let me stop you right there.
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Spoondick posted:also, in coming from the future, im laughing my rear end off at these threads because all the concern about hillarys health was actually justified because we ended up with 7 years 10 months of president tim kaine, which of course led to the technological singularity and our colonization of the moons of jupiter Well, that's what happens when we're all in harmony-ca.
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Spoondick posted:also, in coming from the future, im laughing my rear end off at these threads because all the concern about hillarys health was actually justified because we ended up with 7 years 10 months of president tim kaine, which of course led to the technological singularity and our colonization of the moons of jupiter Tim Kaine would be winning this race by 12 points.
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Tashan Dorrsett posted:Clinton's inner circle knew FIVE YEARS AGO that Anthony Weiner was messaging an underage girl on Twitter - but did nothing about it I'm a Clinton voter, but I have to admit that it'd actually be pretty funny if Carlos Danger caused her to lose the election.
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Tim Kaine could not have beaten Trump in a debate and wouldn't have enjoyed a post-debate bump.
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Yeah, the lowest of lows when CNN/everyone pissed about, speculating on Killery getting sick from pneumonia, and trying to work through it, as if it were a bad thing.
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mcmagic posted:Tim Kaine would be winning this race by 12 points. Oh my god would you gently caress off with these hypotheticals? Hillary is the candidate. She's not the worst one ever, because she's going to win.
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The daily mail is a tabloid rag. Also Hillary's "inner circle" is seemingly thousands.
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mcmagic posted:Tim Kaine would be winning this race by 12 points.
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Deified Data posted:Tim Kaine could not have beaten Trump in a debate and wouldn't have enjoyed a post-debate bump. Ugh, now I'm imagining Kaine debating Trump, and after his VP debate performance I can't imagine that going well. I mean, Trump would still probably look worse, but it'd have just been an incredibly unpleasant experience all around.
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Endorph posted:yeah yeah, anybody with a dick would be beating the Nasty Woman hillary I wouldn't want to run anyone with 59% unfavorability. Dick or no dick.
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WampaLord posted:Oh my god would you gently caress off with these hypotheticals? I wonder if the repubs would be calling bernard sanders out for his honeymooning in the soviet union alongside trump sucking putin's dick
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WampaLord posted:Oh my god would you gently caress off with these hypotheticals? To go down this tangent: who was the worst presidential candidate ever? Let's say worst Democratic one, and then expand to worst ever as a secondary. Limit it to candidates who actually ran in a general, maybe leave out candidates not from major parties. I feel like McGovern's gotta be in the running for worst Democratic candidate, at least going by his performance. How bad do you gotta be to be the only Democratic candidate to lose Minnesota since before Kennedy? (Though, to be fair, Mondale probably only won Minnesota because he was from there.)
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mcmagic posted:I wouldn't want to run anyone with 59% unfavorability. Dick or no dick. 'but she's winning by more than obama did in 2012' 'BUT UNFAVORABILITY' 'but she's winning' 'but wahhhh i dont wanna have a bad lady president with a vagina between her legs wahhhh EMAILS'
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mcmagic posted:I wouldn't want to run anyone with 59% unfavorability. Dick or no dick. I still want to know why you are obsessed with this, you mention this several times a day in multiple versions of this thread now.
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mcmagic posted:I wouldn't want to run anyone with 59% unfavorability. Dick or no dick. How do you feel about making jokes about car bombing government officials?
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Any reason to worry over Hillary not doing as well with black people as in 2012? Or just unfounded due to her not being Obama?
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mcmagic posted:I wouldn't want to run anyone with 59% unfavorability. Dick or no dick.
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kaleedity posted:I wonder if the repubs would be calling bernard sanders out for his honeymooning in the soviet union alongside trump sucking putin's dick Yeah they'd be calling Bernie a commie pinko while saying that Putin is a great leader of a proud people in the same sentence. They have no issues redefining reality on the fly and have no concrete ideology other than FYGM and bigotry. It's what makes campaigning on actual issues incredibly difficult since nothing matters to a chunk of the population.
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socialsecurity posted:I still want to know why you are obsessed with this, you mention this several times a day in multiple versions of this thread now. You gotta have a gimmick
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Any reason to worry over Hillary not doing as well with black people as in 2012? Or just unfounded due to her not being Obama? Don't forget the increase in voter disenfranchisement thats gone on since 2012.
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