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If you're a progressive in a battleground shithole state and itching to leave, can you hold the fort for us for at least one more electoral cycle? Think of yourself as a soldier keeping the peace in a third world country.
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spacetoaster posted:I don't think anyone is super excited to get out and vote for Hillary. At least not anything like we saw for Obama in either of his presidential elections.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:23
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? are you really employing the Trump-endorsed method of using rally sizes as a proxy for likelihood of victory
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computer parts posted:Incidentally if anyone's interested in how political calculus will change in the future, here's a map on how apportionment will happen in 2020: Well the way I see it, then, these are the net EC changes: Democratic: -2 Republican: +2 Swing: +1 Presuming PA is Dem, AZ is Rep, and CO, VA, NC, OH and FL are swing states. Might be a good sign for Dems in terms of demographic shifts, but doesn't seem to offer the Dems any immediate help with the EC map. EDIT: Sorry, that's house seats, not Electoral College. Ignore me. Blurred fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? Hillary Clinton is going to win Florida, and the presidency.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Is there any indication of what that hispanic turnout splits into? I keep reading that the cuban turnout is mostly Trump, but that's just off the top of my head. Statewide it was around 55-35 for Hillary across several multiple polls (Trump is doing better than Romney).
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computer parts posted:Incidentally if anyone's interested in how political calculus will change in the future, here's a map on how apportionment will happen in 2020: I'll die in this state if it doesn't flip. It's been such a long time coming.
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? Would be convincing if the exact same thing didn't happen in the primary.
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BTW why is Wisconsin stagnant on population and it gets to keep a rep and my state of Minnesota has seen a steady gain in population and lose one? Finally I must ask again why not expand the House? Implement the Wyoming Rule? Is this just because they'd have to expand the building or something?
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? Hm, yes, two completely cherry picked pictures of two completely different situations DO say a lot. Edit: Especially one that,based on pictures, is not Florida. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:are you really employing the Trump-endorsed method of using rally sizes as a proxy for likelihood of victory the next line will be "oh so hillary is nixon huh, what a GREAT analogy, VERY ENCOURAGING bernie stein/socialist paragon
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? The rally sizes don't mean anything. Even the shittiest bands can fill arenas if their fans are willing to drive far enough, but it's hardly a mark of quality. Clinton just prefers intimate club gigs
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Nov 1, 2016 20:26
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spacetoaster posted:I don't think anyone is super excited to get out and vote for Hillary. At least not anything like we saw for Obama in either of his presidential elections. They are excited to block Trump. Not many people are excited about Hillary. As for crowd size, Romney and Mondale drew big crowds, too. I'm not really interested in the size of Trump's hate rallies.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:27
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i'm being told that the whole email thing was dropped because Bill had a conversation with Loretta Lynch. this loving election
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Link doesn't work. What was it? *edit* NVM, seems to work now Koyaanisgoatse posted:are you really employing the Trump-endorsed method of using rally sizes as a proxy for likelihood of victory Guy Goodbody posted:Hillary Clinton is going to win Florida, and the presidency. computer parts posted:Would be convincing if the exact same thing didn't happen in the primary. ImpAtom posted:Hm, yes, two completely cherry picked pictures of two completely different situations DO say a lot. Crow Jane posted:The rally sizes don't mean anything. Even the shittiest bands can fill arenas I if their fans are willing to drive far enough, but it's hardly a mark of quality. Clinton just prefers intimate club gigs You all can just ignore the photos if they upset you. My question still stands though.
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if rally size mattered, Sanders would have beat Clinton i think 
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:are you really employing the Trump-endorsed method of using rally sizes as a proxy for likelihood of victory Also endorsed by Walter Mondale in 1984! "We have bigger rallies" has been the rallying cry of the losing campaign for decades.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:28
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? So Rally size wins you electoral votes? You do realize that Trump has made zero effort to convert rally turnout into early voting, right?
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Nov 1, 2016 20:28
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I am shocked, just shocked, that a school basketball court doesn't hold as many people as a stadium
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Nov 1, 2016 20:28
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Northjayhawk posted:They are excited to block Trump. Not many people are excited about Hillary. Not fifteen van loads, which would probably still be kind of lackluster. Fifteen voters, period. bencreateddisco posted:i'm being told that the whole email thing was dropped because Bill had a conversation with Loretta Lynch.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:28
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Edit: you know, nevermind.
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LinYutang posted:Michigan doesn't have early voting, why are absentee ballots so high? We've been trying to send out a lot of absentee ballots. Still, I had no idea we'd sent so many.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:28
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Northjayhawk posted:They are excited to block Trump. Not many people are excited about Hillary. Which is a shame, because I think she offers a lot to be excited about. She's just not "cool" and doesn't have the "change" message like Obama
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Nov 1, 2016 20:29
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? Ok Bill Mitchell. Also,  time:https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/793531272622592001
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Crowsbeak posted:BTW why is Wisconsin stagnant on population and it gets to keep a rep and my state of Minnesota has seen a steady gain in population and lose one? Finally I must ask again why not expand the House? Implement the Wyoming Rule? Is this just because they'd have to expand the building or something? Sometimes states lose congressional seats despite having higher population growth rates, it's a real paradox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apportionment_paradox quote:After the 1880 census, C. W. Seaton, chief clerk of the United States Census Bureau, computed apportionments for all House sizes between 275 and 350, and discovered that Alabama would get 8 seats with a House size of 299 but only 7 with a House size of 300.[1]:228–231 In general the term Alabama paradox refers to any apportionment scenario where increasing the total number of items would decrease one of the shares. A similar exercise by the Census Bureau after the 1900 census computed apportionments for all House sizes between 350 and 400: Colorado would have received three seats in all cases, except with a House size of 357 in which case it would have received two.
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spacetoaster posted:So you actually think Hillary has energized everyone to go vote? Google Image Search says both of these images are from mid September...hardly "recent."
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someone post thar Dukakis article
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Crowsbeak posted:BTW why is Wisconsin stagnant on population and it gets to keep a rep and my state of Minnesota has seen a steady gain in population and lose one? Finally I must ask again why not expand the House? Implement the Wyoming Rule? Is this just because they'd have to expand the building or something? Wisconsin is projected to grow in population. Minnesota is also projected to grow, but not as much. Wyoming rule is dumb, but we should expand the house.
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I remember when Ron Paul was elected president because his rallies were so big and also they made this the new national anthem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVjfa0Alz5o
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Rabble posted:Google Image Search says both of these images are from mid September...hardly "recent." More than mid-september. https://twitter.com/_BScarb/status/687727520163229696/photo/1 January 2016.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:30
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Night10194 posted:We've been trying to send out a lot of absentee ballots. Still, I had no idea we'd sent so many. It could easily be snowbirds heading south for the winter. Also really conveniemt.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:30
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spacetoaster posted:You all can just ignore the photos if they upset you. My question still stands though. Hillary also tends to hold a lot of small, relatively narrow-cast events which aim at particular groups, and are apparently effective, if with less of a Hitlerian air
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ImpAtom posted:Edit: you know, nevermind. There was no location in the description of the hillary one so I just said it was one over her rallies.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:31
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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/793528686507134980 Regardless of the outcome of this election, this is unabashedly a good thing. A higher voter turnout means more people participating in a democracy, and that more people care enough to vote early shows that more people are thinking about the future and emboldened to cast their vote. (Don't know what's going on with Iowa, though)
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spacetoaster posted:You all can just ignore the photos if they upset you. My question still stands though. what's your permabanned username spacetoaster posted:They perma banned me a long time back and don't reply to any emails I send them.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:31
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spacetoaster posted:You all can just ignore the photos if they upset you. My question still stands though. I am really looking forward to not having to interact with Trump supporters after next week
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Nov 1, 2016 20:32
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What if Trump just does rallies for the next 4 years? Perhaps he's addicted to them.
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computer parts posted:Wisconsin is projected to grow in population. Minnesota is also projected to grow, but not as much. They should have never capped it in the first place  . If only the house had thousands of members....
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Nov 1, 2016 20:32
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spacetoaster posted:There was no location in the description of the hillary one so I just said it was one over her rallies. "Here's Trump's Rally in Florida, here's Hillary's Rally" isn't really honest, no. I was actually wrong, it was a Trump Rally in Florida. From January. And "Clinton Rally" is a pretty dishonest description of the stop that picture came from.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:what's your permabanned username I hope it's the "fyad made me mentally ill" guy
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