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mcmagic posted:You can have all the moral bravery you want while you lose. Good for you. I care about winning and winning by the largest margins possible. That would have a much more positive impact on people's lives and on the issues that I and I expect most progressives care about than one person's accomplishments. So no fucks about governance after the win? Or about the fact that you've handed the opposition a winning strategy for sinking more careers at will?
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Northjayhawk posted:Hypothetically, if on election night the polls are where they are now, we expect Clinton to get a close win maybe a 50/50 senate, and..... inexplicably Clinton just cruises to a 12-point wipeout and the Dems take all of congress. It'd likely show that ground game matters and GOTV operations have a significant effect on who actually ends up voting, so it wouldn't be that the polls were wrong, it would mean the likely voter screens the pollsters create were wrong.
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Northjayhawk posted:Hypothetically, if on election night the polls are where they are now, we expect Clinton to get a close win maybe a 50/50 senate, and..... inexplicably Clinton just cruises to a 12-point wipeout and the Dems take all of congress. If the polls are wrong, there are lots of potential explanations, ranging from land line bias to lack of Spanish language polls to poor expected voter estimations.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:19
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iospace posted:The understanding is that account is a bot, and is publishing FOIA requests to the public. It didn't autonomously pick the timing nor choose the material to publish.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:19
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CascadeBeta posted:Why is it every time I look at USPol, I see your stupid garbage polluting the thread. We get it, you think you're smarter than everyone and Bernie should be the dark messiah for 1000 years of liberal darkness but now because everyone (read: white men) hate Hillary, the cheeto's going to win. Either Toxx for Trump or stop posting, jesus. Man, I dunno, I think it's time you put him on ignore.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:19
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Also the average of polls I thought was closer to a 2012 level win than a super close Bush v Gore affair.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:20
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This election has really turned me into a hardline partisan. At this point it is clear that I cannot get along with the kind of psychopath who would vote for Trump. Kinda scary that around 40% of the electorate might as well be aliens to me now. I don't even want to engage in discussion with them. Scorched earth. I'd be pruning my Facebook heavily if I had not quit it years ago because of the conservative bully pulpit there. Anyone else feeling the same way?
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Nov 1, 2016 22:20
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Full on arzy mode now. Full on. FBI is rigging the election for Trump because Comey is a partisan fucker violating the limits of his own power. We're all hosed forever.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:21
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Doctor Butts posted:Man, I dunno, I think it's time you put him on ignore. Ignoring mcmagic only made me notice his posts more
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Nov 1, 2016 22:21
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Munkeymon posted:So no fucks about governance after the win? Or about the fact that you've handed the opposition a winning strategy for sinking more careers at will? You should probably just give up if you are trying to get mcmagic to honestly consider the consequences of his position.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:21
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FWIW, that SurveyUsa poll of NC had Trump at 14% afro-american vote and 43% 18-35 vote which seems a bit off.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:22
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Tir McDohl posted:This election has really turned me into a hardline partisan. At this point it is clear that I cannot get along with the kind of psychopath who would vote for Trump. Kinda scary that around 40% of the electorate might as well be aliens to me now. I don't even want to engage in discussion with them. Scorched earth. I'd be pruning my Facebook heavily if I had not quit it years ago because of the conservative bully pulpit there. Covok posted:Full on arzy mode now. Full on. FBI is rigging the election for Trump because Comey is a partisan fucker violating the limits of his own power.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:23
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Instant Sunrise posted:"Not only are we going to New Hampshire, Tom Harkin, we're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma And Arizona.. And North Dakota And New Mexico! We're going to California and Texas and New York! And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan! And then we're going to Washington D.C. to take back the White House! Yeah!!!" At least it's more energy than Kerry showed. Speaking of candidates from bygones past: https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/793453371000705024
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I, for one, am arzying. Tir McDohl posted:This election has really turned me into a hardline partisan. At this point it is clear that I cannot get along with the kind of psychopath who would vote for Trump. Kinda scary that around 40% of the electorate might as well be aliens to me now. I don't even want to engage in discussion with them. Scorched earth. I'd be pruning my Facebook heavily if I had not quit it years ago because of the conservative bully pulpit there.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:24
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How badly is Obama regretting his Comey appointment right about now?
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Nov 1, 2016 22:24
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How much is that due to there being more early voting precincts? That's a good question, but I doubt there's an accurate way to measure that effect before early voting actually ends.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:25
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Cingulate posted:I, for one, am arzying. I've also moved significantly toward the center. Mostly as a reaction to seeing how foolish and impractical the far left is.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:25
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Gyges posted:So I got texted to help with GOTV here. Anyone know what all I'll be doing for that? Hillary's website has a super-quick quiz that guides you through the various options and helps you choose: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/page/volunteer-quiz-start/ E: This should probably be in the OP or something.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:26
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How badly is Obama regretting his Comey appointment right about now?
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Nov 1, 2016 22:26
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Tir McDohl posted:This election has really turned me into a hardline partisan. At this point it is clear that I cannot get along with the kind of psychopath who would vote for Trump. Kinda scary that around 40% of the electorate might as well be aliens to me now. I don't even want to engage in discussion with them. Scorched earth. I'd be pruning my Facebook heavily if I had not quit it years ago because of the conservative bully pulpit there. Yep. I've never voted straight Democrat. Federally, Governor, and the state legislature sure, but at the state and local level I do my research and usually find at least 1 or 2 Republicans somewhere that look more competent (or their opponent is a crazy-rear end) running for what is basically a non-partisan non-legislative office. This year, I'm doing no research except for races where party is not listed and not known, then I guess I'll figure those out. This year, if you have a D next to your name, you got my vote. If a Republican is running unopposed, I'll leave that race blank.
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Maybe democrats will learn that appointing republicans to positions of power is stupid and will always gently caress them over. ... and I can quietly feel vindicated for supporting Bernie while president trumps fucks up everything. Ogmius815 posted:I've also moved significantly toward the center. Mostly as a reaction to seeing how foolish and impractical the far left is. please define far left and how they are foolish and impractical.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How badly is Obama regretting his Comey appointment right about now? Luther is being deployed as we post.
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Northjayhawk posted:Hypothetically, if on election night the polls are where they are now, we expect Clinton to get a close win maybe a 50/50 senate, and..... inexplicably Clinton just cruises to a 12-point wipeout and the Dems take all of congress. GOTV E: beaten like Ted Strickland Trade Chat Troll fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Nov 1, 2016 |
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Tir McDohl posted:This election has really turned me into a hardline partisan. At this point it is clear that I cannot get along with the kind of psychopath who would vote for Trump. Kinda scary that around 40% of the electorate might as well be aliens to me now. I don't even want to engage in discussion with them. Scorched earth. I'd be pruning my Facebook heavily if I had not quit it years ago because of the conservative bully pulpit there. Mostly the same. It's hard to get along with someone when they get their news from infowars, breitbart, or whatever dumb smaller websites they read. You can't argue with them. They're not reasonable and will never admit a story isn't true, no matter how much evidence you give them. Except for a couple of my friends that were educated at good schools and learned how to do research, but still lean conservative. Unfortunately, that is a small subset of the Republican party these days and they still read the sketchy sources.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:27
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Is this freakout over that one NC poll? For that to be indicative of a national trend it requires pretty much everyone in this country to go "welp Trump is alright I guess" combined with Democrats suddenly caring about emails. Even then NC isn't required. I'm guessing more and more embarrassed Republicans are coming home to daddy Trump instead of being principled and voting third party or abstaining but that still isn't enough. The FBI seemingly going all in on Trump support regardless of effect is a lot more creepy especially if after the election everyone treats it like it was cute.
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canepazzo posted:FWIW, that SurveyUsa poll of NC had Trump at 14% afro-american vote and 43% 18-35 vote which seems a bit off. Thats 43% of 18-35 who had no Halloween weekend plans, stayed home sober and watched TV. So, good young Republicans.
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iospace posted:I live in Milwaukee County and Ryan is my congressman lol, I didn't realize they'd hosed with the district boundary that much in the last redistricting. I take it you're in the white flight zone of Milwaukee County then? for thread's reference: The outskirts of Milwaukee county are 1.5 hours from Janesville (which used to be the center of Ryan's district) and you have to drive through 1-2 other counties in between depending on your route. Also Rock County (Ryan's original district center) is one of the poorest and most minority-heavy in the state, and the outer part of Milwaukee County is one of the richest and whitest areas in the state. The two areas have basically nothing in common.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Hillary's website has a super-quick quiz that guides you through the various options and helps you choose:
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Harrow posted:Yeah, the media bubble thing is absolutely a part of it, too. It's why people like my dad are all-in on Clinton body count bullshit, while other people believe that Trump's accusers have been fully discredited (when they haven't). Conspiracy theory echo chambers are only getting stronger and stronger. This post is pretty ironic considering the thread is full of stuff like this: Tir McDohl posted:This election has really turned me into a hardline partisan. At this point it is clear that I cannot get along with the kind of psychopath who would vote for Trump. Kinda scary that around 40% of the electorate might as well be aliens to me now. I don't even want to engage in discussion with them. Scorched earth. I'd be pruning my Facebook heavily if I had not quit it years ago because of the conservative bully pulpit there. Most places in the country are like a 40/40 split with the independent 20 deciding who wins. Everyone who lives in the United States knows somebody supporting both candidates, full stop. If you've disowned any of your friends and family for their vote I don't know what to tell you, neither one of these candidates are worth that kind of loyalty at all. This whole election has just been wrought with individual grandstanding.
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So, one thing for sure is that the Director of the FBI is now a partisan position and will likely not be appointed across party lines from now on.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:lol, I didn't realize they'd hosed with the district boundary that much in the last redistricting. I take it you're in the white flight zone of Milwaukee County then? project REDMAP strikes again
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Radish posted:Is this freakout over that one NC poll? For that to be indicative of a national trend it requires pretty much everyone in this country to go "welp Trump is alright I guess" combined with Democrats suddenly caring about emails. Even then NC isn't required. I'm guessing more and more embarrassed Republicans are coming home to daddy Trump instead of being principled and voting third party or abstaining but that still isn't enough. What makes it hilarious is that there were other post email polls of NC and they had Clinton ahead, except for one tie, and one by Remington which was Trump +2. Trump +7 is almost certainly a massive massive outlier.
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Libertine posted:This post is pretty ironic considering the thread is full of stuff like this: It's not so much loyalty to Clinton as it is if you're voting for Trump you're a goddamn psychopath.
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Nov 1, 2016 22:31
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Northjayhawk posted:Thats 43% of 18-35 who had no Halloween weekend plans, stayed home sober and watched TV. So, good young Republicans. Man, I don't know what Republicans you know who are the sober type.
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remusclaw posted:So, one thing for sure is that the Director of the FBI is now a partisan position and will likely not be appointed across party lines from now on. Seriously any Democrat that appoints a Republican to any office unless there's no alternative whatsoever after Obama's term is an absolute fool.
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Northjayhawk posted:Thats 43% of 18-35 who had no Halloween weekend plans, stayed home sober and watched TV. So, good young Republicans. ...that's honestly a really good point
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:How badly is Obama regretting his Comey appointment right about now? Considering he endorsed him less than 24 hours ago, probably not much.
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remusclaw posted:So, one thing for sure is that the Director of the FBI is now a partisan position and will likely not be appointed across party lines from now on. Has a Republican ever appointed a Democrat as Director of the FBI?
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ImpAtom posted:Man, I don't know what Republicans you know who are the sober type. Does meth count?
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