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al-azad
May 28, 2009



ChaosArgate posted:

Serious question, what emulator were you using, because Mother 3's timing was kinda off for me on PSP and I gave up trying to play on that and just went back to VBA.

I don't remember other than it required me to have a BIOS file to setup and maybe had a blue menu screen that looked like the PSP port of Snes9x.


Improbable Lobster posted:

Unless the Switch completely bombs in all markets the Wii U and 3DS will be phased out like the Wii, DS, Gamecube, GBA, SNES, Gameboy Colour, Gameboy, Virtualboy and NES were.

I think Nintendo is saying the 3DS isn't going anywhere but they literally said the same thing about the GBA when they announced DS so I take everything Ninty says about their platforms with a grain of salt.

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ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

If the DS is anything to go off of, the third pillar thing is just Nintendo having a fall-back plan in case the new system doesn't actually take off.

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

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Improbable Lobster posted:

Unless the Switch completely bombs in all markets the Wii U and 3DS will be phased out like the Wii, DS, Gamecube, GBA, SNES, Gameboy Colour, Gameboy, Virtualboy and NES were.
Sooner than that for Wii U; production's being stopped on Friday.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

Monitor Burn posted:

Pretty sure someone else asked about this a few weeks ago; I picked up a copy of Lagrange Point and I'd like to install an EPROM with the English translation. Is there anyone who sells flashed EPROMs themselves, or anyone here with a programmer that could make one? I'm not quite ready to drop a couple hundred bucks on a programming setup myself.

http://nesreproductions.com

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

The sad thing is with production stopped, they could probably continue selling their existing stock at a normal rate for the next 2 or 3 years.

Captain Rufus
Sep 16, 2005

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The Switch doesn't fit in a pants pocket the way the 3ds or your average smart phone does. (Even the Bougie ones.)

It seems more the size of a Kindle Fire original, maybe a tad bigger. That isn't exactly going to appeal to the same market or consumer need I don't think. Especially in Japan. With the controllers it kind of won't work for travel gaming. It pretty much looks to be a thing you need dedicated space in a backpack for.

It's tablet sized so it is basically going to be in the tablet sphere of use. I don't know if said sphere will accept it, the Nintendo faithful will join that group in usage of their device, or if it could properly replace what the 3DS does now which no other portable device except maybe the Vita (if you even count it as an active machine..) actually does.

I sure as gently caress don't see a need for it. I've been needing pants pocket fitting game devices since 98 or so. The Switch is not that. And I already have a good tablet for tablet computery things which it's not gonna do well if Nintendo even bothers to make it do such things. gently caress, a cheap modern Android tablet is probably BETTER for every day use and some retro gaming with a Bluetooth controller! (And some have video out capability so you can have your briefcase retro games device when you don't want to pay for hotel porn or something..)

absolutely anything
Dec 28, 2006

~As for dreams, she has enough and more to spare~
people who don't know about good emulation talking like they do and saying things like "well mario 64 ran on my pentium 3" and "* worked perfectly on my psp" is extremely my poo poo

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

al-azad posted:

I don't remember other than it required me to have a BIOS file to setup and maybe had a blue menu screen that looked like the PSP port of Snes9x.

That's GPSP, and it's actually really terrible at emulating the GBA even half decently. Even the improved versions still have random frame drops and lag on better systems than the PSP, and the PSP version pretty much demands 2 frame skip for everything.


Nintendo could probably do the GBA "alright" on the original 3DS system without bypassing the OS, but do you really want to pay $10 for "alright"? It's a bit different downloading a free emulator and a rom and having it be finicky and paying money for something that doesn't work right.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Captain Rufus posted:

The Switch doesn't fit in a pants pocket the way the 3ds or your average smart phone does. (Even the Bougie ones.)

It seems more the size of a Kindle Fire original, maybe a tad bigger. That isn't exactly going to appeal to the same market or consumer need I don't think. Especially in Japan. With the controllers it kind of won't work for travel gaming. It pretty much looks to be a thing you need dedicated space in a backpack for.

It's tablet sized so it is basically going to be in the tablet sphere of use. I don't know if said sphere will accept it, the Nintendo faithful will join that group in usage of their device, or if it could properly replace what the 3DS does now which no other portable device except maybe the Vita (if you even count it as an active machine..) actually does.

I sure as gently caress don't see a need for it. I've been needing pants pocket fitting game devices since 98 or so. The Switch is not that. And I already have a good tablet for tablet computery things which it's not gonna do well if Nintendo even bothers to make it do such things. gently caress, a cheap modern Android tablet is probably BETTER for every day use and some retro gaming with a Bluetooth controller! (And some have video out capability so you can have your briefcase retro games device when you don't want to pay for hotel porn or something..)

If it fits into a randoseru then Nintendo is on the right path. I can comfortably carry a 3DS XL in my pants pocket but I know few people who don't bring around some kind of bag wherever they go.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

Captain Rufus posted:

The Switch doesn't fit in a pants pocket the way the 3ds or your average smart phone does. (Even the Bougie ones.)

It seems more the size of a Kindle Fire original, maybe a tad bigger. That isn't exactly going to appeal to the same market or consumer need I don't think. Especially in Japan. With the controllers it kind of won't work for travel gaming. It pretty much looks to be a thing you need dedicated space in a backpack for.

It's tablet sized so it is basically going to be in the tablet sphere of use. I don't know if said sphere will accept it, the Nintendo faithful will join that group in usage of their device, or if it could properly replace what the 3DS does now which no other portable device except maybe the Vita (if you even count it as an active machine..) actually does.

I sure as gently caress don't see a need for it. I've been needing pants pocket fitting game devices since 98 or so. The Switch is not that. And I already have a good tablet for tablet computery things which it's not gonna do well if Nintendo even bothers to make it do such things. gently caress, a cheap modern Android tablet is probably BETTER for every day use and some retro gaming with a Bluetooth controller! (And some have video out capability so you can have your briefcase retro games device when you don't want to pay for hotel porn or something..)

Nintendo is 100% replacing the 3DS and Wii U with the switch and Sony is never making another handheld. Devs won't have to split resources between a console and handheld anymore because for the vast majority of people a cellphone fits the pocket gaming niche.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Elliotw2 posted:

That's GPSP, and it's actually really terrible at emulating the GBA even half decently. Even the improved versions still have random frame drops and lag on better systems than the PSP, and the PSP version pretty much demands 2 frame skip for everything.


Nintendo could probably do the GBA "alright" on the original 3DS system without bypassing the OS, but do you really want to pay $10 for "alright"? It's a bit different downloading a free emulator and a rom and having it be finicky and paying money for something that doesn't work right.

This definitely wasn't my experience with it but it was 8 years ago and I just don't remember what the software was. I think it was some kind of custom emulator because I downloaded it with a Japanese version of Snes9x that ran Secret of Mana at stable speed.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Improbable Lobster posted:

Nintendo is 100% replacing the 3DS and Wii U with the switch and Sony is never making another handheld. Devs won't have to split resources between a console and handheld anymore because for the vast majority of people a cellphone fits the pocket gaming niche.

loving Sony, the Vita was amazing and they just let it die. If they hadn't done the stupid loving proprietary memory thing, granted it would've possibly/maybe exposed them earlier to hacking, but maybe they would've sold enough to actually care about the console.

Also lol back touch pad

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Are there any phone bluetooth controllers that connect to the sides like the Vita/Switch's controls, that aren't horrible garbage? I want that I think, I like my SFC30 but I love how I can just pick up my Vita and the controls are attached to it, and while it's powerful enough to emulate most things, my phone is way more powerful and has a bigger / higher res screen

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Yeah, the 3ds is effectively dead when the switch hits market. Nintendo always hedges their bets. See also: GBA and DS coexistence, and the fact that the n64 was a standard dpad controller with a joystick added on

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

Code Jockey posted:

loving Sony, the Vita was amazing and they just let it die. If they hadn't done the stupid loving proprietary memory thing, granted it would've possibly/maybe exposed them earlier to hacking, but maybe they would've sold enough to actually care about the console.

Also lol back touch pad

The Vita died because portable gaming is dead except children and Monster Hunter and they missed both boats.

Also on the SFC30 you can just buy the clip thing for it, if you have a normal sized phone. They also finally make one for the NES30 Pro model.

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave
Jan 9, 2006

Popping up from out of nowhere...




This happened last night. Bought an $8.50 TV dinner tray, and it was perfect for Typing Of The Dead.

Best thing to occur during the game was at the final boss. The question: "What is the biggest lie you've ever told?" And one of the answers was "They are... just cold sores!"

Also, for those of you, like Rufus who roll hardcore old, the TV dinner tray also works well for this:

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Elliotw2 posted:

The Vita died because portable gaming is dead except children and Monster Hunter and they missed both boats.

Also on the SFC30 you can just buy the clip thing for it, if you have a normal sized phone. They also finally make one for the NES30 Pro model.

Oooooo nice, thanks! I didn't know they had this for the SFC30.

Also Typing of the Dead owns, I was watching people play it at Magfest, and I need to get around to it myself.

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave
Jan 9, 2006

Popping up from out of nowhere...


Code Jockey posted:

Also Typing of the Dead owns, I was watching people play it at Magfest, and I need to get around to it myself.

The algorithms in that game maximize repeated playthroughs, which is a very Sega thing to do. I'd like to think I'm a great typer, but my wife blows me away -- this is what you get when you marry a police dispatcher.

UnhandledException
Jun 27, 2016

Not enough memories.

Elliotw2 posted:

The Vita died because portable gaming is dead except children and Monster Hunter and they missed both boats.

Also on the SFC30 you can just buy the clip thing for it, if you have a normal sized phone. They also finally make one for the NES30 Pro model.

Speaking of both Monster Hunter and 8bitdo, is there an unofficial firmware that lets those controllers pretend to be MFi controllers? I'd like to play MHFU on my iPhone without buying $100 controller for a game that may not work with new iOS versions for months at a time.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

UnhandledException posted:

Speaking of both Monster Hunter and 8bitdo, is there an unofficial firmware that lets those controllers pretend to be MFi controllers? I'd like to play MHFU on my iPhone without buying $100 controller for a game that may not work with new iOS versions for months at a time.

Yeah I'd love to know too.

Electromax
May 6, 2007
Here, have a README I found while going through some ancient CD-R spindles from the early 2000s. I wonder if DOSBOX would run this, looks like I have all the contents of the floppy disk on here as well as others - can't believe the CD is even still readable.

PC gaming wasn't so casual friendly back then... this is a game for 1st graders, keep in mind.

code:
Dear Super Munchers User,

Thank you for purchasing Super Munchers!  The following information was too
late to be included in the User's Guide.  Please take the time to read it
so that you can receive maximum enjoyment from your software package.

Register Now
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A REGISTRATION CARD is included in the package.  Please complete it and
return it to us so that we can notify you of new, exciting IBM/Tandy
products as they become available.


Make a Backup Copy
==================
Before you begin playing Super Munchers, be sure to make yourself a copy
and put the original disks in a safe place.


If You Don't Have a Mouse
=========================
If you are not using a mouse with your computer, Super Munchers will
operate normally using only the keyboard for input.  However, some
older computers may have trouble when Super Munchers tries to find a
mouse and none is present.  If you do not have a mouse and Super
Munchers is behaving strangely (or not running at all), try typing 
SM NOMOUSE to start the program.


Sound and Music Support
=======================
Super Munchers supports Adlib and compatible sound boards.

If a sound board is detected by the program, Super Munchers will use
the board to play sound effects and music.  You may choose to use the
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sound effects between the sound board and the internal speaker of
your PC, hold down the Alt Key and press P.

Remember, to start the program, type SM at the DOS prompt.  We hope
you like using Super Munchers as much as we enjoyed creating it!

Polly Toodle
Apr 21, 2010

CHARIZARD used SMOKESCREEN
It doesn't affect GEORDI THE BLASTOISE!

Monitor Burn posted:

Pretty sure someone else asked about this a few weeks ago; I picked up a copy of Lagrange Point and I'd like to install an EPROM with the English translation. Is there anyone who sells flashed EPROMs themselves, or anyone here with a programmer that could make one? I'm not quite ready to drop a couple hundred bucks on a programming setup myself.

I can program one for you, email me at chortleatjokersboner@gmail.com if you want it. I think I charged the last guy $6, shipping included.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

UnhandledException posted:

Speaking of both Monster Hunter and 8bitdo, is there an unofficial firmware that lets those controllers pretend to be MFi controllers? I'd like to play MHFU on my iPhone without buying $100 controller for a game that may not work with new iOS versions for months at a time.

If you have a jailbroken device, apparently there's something called Controllers For All that will fix it for you.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Electromax posted:

Here, have a README I found while going through some ancient CD-R spindles from the early 2000s. I wonder if DOSBOX would run this, looks like I have all the contents of the floppy disk on here as well as others - can't believe the CD is even still readable.

PC gaming wasn't so casual friendly back then... this is a game for 1st graders, keep in mind.

More like DOS wasn't casual friendly. But going through old PC manuals I'm really impressed by how much effort people put into different control schemes. Like Doom has full support for gamepads, joysticks, keyboard and mouse. 10 years ago people threw a fit when a game said "best with a controller." 20 years ago every PC gamer had 5 different control schemes on their desk.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

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al-azad posted:

More like DOS wasn't casual friendly. But going through old PC manuals I'm really impressed by how much effort people put into different control schemes. Like Doom has full support for gamepads, joysticks, keyboard and mouse. 10 years ago people threw a fit when a game said "best with a controller." 20 years ago every PC gamer had 5 different control schemes on their desk.

Ehhh it's more like the average PC gamer had 1, maybe 2 control methods, but game developers had no clue what their customers would have besides the keyboard.

So you either just supported keyboard and told people to deal, or you tried to support all th other control schemes you could think of.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Even if that was the motivation the end result was a better state than PC games were around 2005-2010.

Captain Rufus
Sep 16, 2005

CAPTAIN WORD SALAD

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Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:



This happened last night. Bought an $8.50 TV dinner tray, and it was perfect for Typing Of The Dead.

Best thing to occur during the game was at the final boss. The question: "What is the biggest lie you've ever told?" And one of the answers was "They are... just cold sores!"

Also, for those of you, like Rufus who roll hardcore old, the TV dinner tray also works well for this:



drat. The best Atari 8 bit with a Lotharek drive? Nice. Not a fan of Atari sticks though. I generally rock an Epyx 500xj or one of my Genesis pads or sticks. I should probably get one of those SMS Alan 9000 sticks on eBay but 70 bucks is pricey even using bat handle sticks the way God intended. Ed Laddin sticks are up there in price too. And are CV and 7800 compatible. I don't have a CV and the 7800 isn't a thing I use a ton since the machine in your picture is the superior classic Atari games experience IMHO. (Until I magically have time and money and talent to both buy an XEGS, HDMI mod it, replace the command buttons with microswitch ones, and mod the detachable keyboard into a Model M clicky bad rear end. I would not hold my breath for this.)

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.
Here's a retroUSB AVS update.



Valkyrie No Bouken and Ganbare Goemon! arrived via slow mail tonight.

Both work fine on the AVS. According to JNES, Error:Unsupported Mapper #75 when I try to play the Ganbare Goemon! ROM, so the retroUSb can handle at least some famicom mappers too.

There is some bad news, no game genie codes autoload, and famicom carts are about an eighth of an inch too tall to fit two in one of my NES sleeves. I'm sure I'll be fine.

Edit: Oh, yeah, and the lid hangs up really awkwardly when you put a famicom cart in because they insert vertically.

DalaranJ fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Nov 2, 2016

SeductiveReasoning
Nov 2, 2005

382 BC - 301 BC

DalaranJ posted:

Edit: Oh, yeah, and the lid hangs up really awkwardly when you put a famicom cart in because they insert vertically.

I love the idea of the AVS and hope to see more FPGA-based HD clone systems but drat if it's not only ugly but also awkward hell. I guess that had to have a lid on order to cash in on those sweet nostalgia bucks but every inch of its design just seems like the worst compromises.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:
I got bored a couple weeks ago and watched all 3 videos on Gametech's YouTube channel of Kevtris critiquing the AVS. I found it mildly interesting, but a lot of dead air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc4JcYDEico

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxrYjL6f_wQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXmf37bBMRI

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Code Jockey posted:

loving Sony, the Vita was amazing and they just let it die. If they hadn't done the stupid loving proprietary memory thing, granted it would've possibly/maybe exposed them earlier to hacking, but maybe they would've sold enough to actually care about the console.

Also lol back touch pad

The Vita died because it turns out "hey it plays the exact same games as PS3, but portable with a $250+ buy-in" was a terrible business strategy to build a sales base on. Especially without any actual mainstream-market exclusives to prop it up past launch.

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave
Jan 9, 2006

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Captain Rufus posted:

drat. The best Atari 8 bit with a Lotharek drive? Nice. Not a fan of Atari sticks though. I generally rock an Epyx 500xj or one of my Genesis pads or sticks. I should probably get one of those SMS Alan 9000 sticks on eBay but 70 bucks is pricey even using bat handle sticks the way God intended. Ed Laddin sticks are up there in price too. And are CV and 7800 compatible. I don't have a CV and the 7800 isn't a thing I use a ton since the machine in your picture is the superior classic Atari games experience IMHO. (Until I magically have time and money and talent to both buy an XEGS, HDMI mod it, replace the command buttons with microswitch ones, and mod the detachable keyboard into a Model M clicky bad rear end. I would not hold my breath for this.)

While not pictured, I totally rock a Genesis pad when I'm not trying to take fancy pictures. I'm still sad that the Lotharek doesn't emulate cassette tapes, so I can't quite get ALL the games. I wish the same Genesis pad worked in the Vectrex, but I can't seem to get it working right. I've cut the plastic enough, but it won't register.

I have an XEGS that I wouldn't mind letting go of, including the light gun and a near-mint grey-capped controller (only non-mint about it is that it's not in the bag it used to be in). Feel free to drop me a PM.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
When Nintendo says they're supporting 3DS through 2018 they mean it - it's Japan's biggest hardware market and the audience there isn't desperate to move on like they are elsewhere, and there are still a lot of big games scheduled for the platform. They'll squeeze another year out of it without too much trouble and then they'll drop it like a rock.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

Neddy Seagoon posted:

The Vita died because it turns out "hey it plays the exact same games as PS3, but portable with a $250+ buy-in" was a terrible business strategy to build a sales base on. Especially without any actual mainstream-market exclusives to prop it up past launch.

No, the steep price coupled with the aforementioned proprietary obscenely expensive memory cards right when the price of Micro SD started to drop like a rock, modern cell phones doing the exact same things for a cheaper price (for the average consumer on contract) and no real AAA system sellers anywhere near the launch spelled it's doom.

I think that if they had changed to Micro SD when they came out the revision and pushed the platform as a indie dev/game wonderland it very well might have had a real second life. But, there was no way to get people on board with the same problems no matter what was coming out on it. The Vita is actually a pretty impressive system but completely bungled and mismanaged it's entire life. Part of me would love to see what Sony would do with another handheld but I am as aware as they are that the handheld market, especially in Japan, is either cell phones or Nintendo.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

When Nintendo says they're supporting 3DS through 2018 they mean it - it's Japan's biggest hardware market and the audience there isn't desperate to move on like they are elsewhere, and there are still a lot of big games scheduled for the platform. They'll squeeze another year out of it without too much trouble and then they'll drop it like a rock.

That's about normal for any console, because even at the exact moment a company says their machine is going out of production there are probably like a dozen projects still a year away from release across various publishers.

Monitor Burn
Nov 29, 2001
No clever to be found here

Miles McCloud posted:

I can program one for you, email me at chortleatjokersboner@gmail.com if you want it. I think I charged the last guy $6, shipping included.

Thanks, sent you an email

Caitlin
Aug 18, 2006

When I die, if there is a heaven, I will spend eternity rolling around with a pile of kittens.

Djarum posted:

No, the steep price coupled with the aforementioned proprietary obscenely expensive memory cards right when the price of Micro SD started to drop like a rock, modern cell phones doing the exact same things for a cheaper price (for the average consumer on contract) and no real AAA system sellers anywhere near the launch spelled it's doom.

I think that if they had changed to Micro SD when they came out the revision and pushed the platform as a indie dev/game wonderland it very well might have had a real second life. But, there was no way to get people on board with the same problems no matter what was coming out on it. The Vita is actually a pretty impressive system but completely bungled and mismanaged it's entire life. Part of me would love to see what Sony would do with another handheld but I am as aware as they are that the handheld market, especially in Japan, is either cell phones or Nintendo.

You speak truth, the storage prices for that thing are loving ridiculous. I have one and I can barely store any games on it because that media is so god drat expensive.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


What are the pros/cons of the AVS and the analogue nt?

And if I have a framemeister, is it just better to go get the HDMI upgrade for the NES (pricewise) instead of a hdmi enabled clone system?

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

Ineffiable posted:

What are the pros/cons of the AVS and the analogue nt?

And if I have a framemeister, is it just better to go get the HDMI upgrade for the NES (pricewise) instead of a hdmi enabled clone system?

AVS:

Pro: Out now
Pro: Cheaper of the two at $185
Con?: Max resolution is 720p
Pro or Con depending on your needs: Uses USB for power
Con: No controllers, you're expected to already have one.

FPGA core developed by bunnyboy, depends if you care or not.

Analogue NT Mini:

Con: Won't be out until Jan 2017
Con: More expensive of the two at $449
Pro: 1080p output on HDMI due to higher end FPGA
Pro: If HDMI is not your thing, you can use RGB/S-Video/Composite :psyduck: instead.
Pro: Comes with an 8bitdo NES controller with wireless receiver
Pro: Aluminium looks cool I guess?
Pro: Proper EDID support. Kevtris was kind of a stickler for this.

FPGA core developed by Kevtris, creator of the Hi-Def NES board the NT uses as its base.

Between the two they have most of the same features and accessory support from what I can tell.

A Framemeister would do nothing for you with either system or modding your NES/Famicom with a Hi-Def NES board. They were intended to be used directly with the TV though with the NT's RGB support you could still use a Framemeister if you wanted to.

8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Nov 2, 2016

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falz
Jan 29, 2005

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I'm sure that Nintendo will make a smaller portable only non switching switch that fits in one's pocket if a) it's successful and b) they kill off the 3ds.

And then 3 more revisions of the same thing like always.

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