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Pastrymancy posted:2008 and 2012 were record levels of turnout for obvious reasons, but I don't like that Team Clinton isn't partnering with local groups as much as they could be! wasn't one of the main arguments for hillary over bernie was that she was gonna be able to get lots of black support because of all of the relationships the clintons had with them i say this as someone who wasn't a bernie supporter, it just doesn't make sense why this would be happening based on what we were told before
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:wasn't one of the main arguments for hillary over bernie was that she was gonna be able to get lots of black support because of all of the relationships the clintons had with them
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Nessus posted:I know it takes away the fun but maybe the issue is that there was some receding from a high water mark that was perhaps in part because of Obama's own identity, which may well be compensated for by a Hispanic drove Yeah the real question is how is Clinton doing with the AA vote compared to Kerry or Gore.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:What does the polling say about the close Senate races.rigjt now? 538 has the Dems favored in PA, NH, MO, NV, and IN. Richard "Bullseye" Burr still up in NC
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:wasn't one of the main arguments for hillary over bernie was that she was gonna be able to get lots of black support because of all of the relationships the clintons had with them Bernie and Hillary's shortcomings with engaging with minority voters aren't mutually exclusive. Her team having weaknesses in black voter engagement doesn't mean Bernie's was better.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:wasn't one of the main arguments for hillary over bernie was that she was gonna be able to get lots of black support because of all of the relationships the clintons had with them I don't know that Hillary's minority support was so much a reason to vote for her in the primary as much as Hillary won the primary because minorities voted for her over Sanders. I know that people made that argument; it just seems kinda strange to frame the legitimacy of her candidacy in those terms.
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Nov 2, 2016 01:54
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So tempted to tweet at him with "and if you LOVED it, come visit us in Minnesota!"
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Endorph posted:it never used to be this Yeah, if anything we are doing pretty good on rule of law these days compared to having EVEN MORE lovely personal fiefdoms.
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Tricky D posted:The stated purpose of the twitter account is to publicly release FOIA requests. The massive dump today suggests that they have been sitting on a bunch of them for a while. I have no doubt that that the timing and order of the tweets were politically motivated, but I still think that they represent actual FOIA requests. Yeah probably thousands of people filed FOIA requests for Clinton's bullshit, just like thousands of people filed FOIA requests for Trump's. What's hosed is the FBI is publishing and promoting the anti-Clinton info (if that's even what it is, I haven't seen the release myself) while remaining silent on Trump's.
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Kind of a weird tack to take when Obama's approval rating is higher than most outgoing presidents'
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a lot of pro-trump commentary today has focused around hillary being desperate and out of gas if her closing argument it to trot out alicia machado again and hope trump takes the bait, and then of course he didn't take the bait and gave two of his best speeches of the entire campaign i'm inclined to believe the clinton camp is completely out of gas/oppo and is desperately just trying to run out the clock because the machado poo poo was just flailing wildly imo
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:wasn't one of the main arguments for hillary over bernie was that she was gonna be able to get lots of black support because of all of the relationships the clintons had with them bernie's black turnout would be even worse
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 I already voted, but thank you for confirming my decision with a very sweet picture, Mr Walker.Edit: Obama tall
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Covok posted:He only can do that a number of times per day equal to 1/2 his Paladin level + his Charisma modifier (min 1), he's not going to waste that considering his 6 Charisma. Though, he's probably already fallen and become a Fighter of equivalent level at this point unless he has the most liberal DM ever. Trump playing DnD would call out the DM for rigging the game after rolling a critical failure (1) and then would arbitrarily declare himself the new DM with his own rules so that he never loses. He'd also make his character a cheesemonkey demi-god and play by himself once everyone eventually gets bored of his idiocy.
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disjoe posted:Yeah probably thousands of people filed FOIA requests for Clinton's bullshit, just like thousands of people filed FOIA requests for Trump's. What's hosed is the FBI is publishing and promoting the anti-Clinton info (if that's even what it is, I haven't seen the release myself) while remaining silent on Trump's. Its worse than that because the first tweet of the dump was about how trumps daddy was a great philanthropist. https://twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/792637173937807360
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Tricky D posted:Its worse than that because the first tweet of the dump was about how trumps daddy was a great philanthropist. If only he could have lived to see his son dunked on by a black President.
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Ron Johnson confirmed to a local paper that a GOP controlled Senate will mean endless motions to impeach the Guilty Traitor Clinton. Oh joy.
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I don't get why people are saying there isn't much post-Comery data yet, because why else are Hillary's numbers dropping in the newest polls? What I'm trying to say here is, poo poo, hope she doesn't drop further when full post-Comey polls come out. Her lead has gone from unstoppable to comfy to only 1-3 pts better than Obama in 2012.
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I don't get why people are saying there isn't much post-Comery data yet, because why else are Hillary's numbers dropping in the newest polls? POLLS
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GreyjoyBastard posted:If only he could have lived to see his son dunked on by a black President. Was he the one in the Klan or was that Grandad Trump? I know he was the one who taught Trump how to deny black people housing....
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I don't get why people are saying there isn't much post-Comery data yet, because why else are Hillary's numbers dropping in the newest polls?
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:a lot of pro-trump commentary today has focused around hillary being desperate and out of gas if her closing argument it to trot out alicia machado again and hope trump takes the bait, and then of course he didn't take the bait and gave two of his best speeches of the entire campaign I don't think they're out of oppo in the traditional sense because *gestures to Trump* how the gently caress could they be, but I think they've realized that, at this point, the risk to reward ratio isn't worth it. you can't convince the deplorables. might as well just push where they can and let the chips fall. remind people of the big things - pussygate, Alicia Machado, tax evasion, Russia - and pray it sticks. or maybe they're holding onto video of Trump having sex with Putin for a November surprise who knows
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I don't get why people are saying there isn't much post-Comery data yet, because why else are Hillary's numbers dropping in the newest polls? Trump had been gaining a bit before Comeygate. That said, polls from the last couple of days should be reflecting post-Comey fallout
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Pastrymancy posted:2008 and 2012 were record levels of turnout for obvious reasons, but I don't like that Team Clinton isn't partnering with local groups as much as they could be! 2012 turnout was lower than 2004.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:i'm inclined to believe the clinton camp is completely out of gas/oppo and is desperately just trying to run out the clock because the machado poo poo was just flailing wildly imo The Clinton campaign has been running on fumes for a while now. They assumed that Trump would melt down repeatedly until election day, and that people find him scary enough that they don't have to do much other than stay out of his way while he makes mistakes. They barely even cared about down ballot races until 10 days ago.
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Hey Nate Silver, how are Trump's chances taking the EV while losing the popular vote and the senate and the house? *number machine starts to smoke trying to turn the odds into a percentage that sits between 8 and 10 percent*
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Apraxin posted:Ron Johnson confirmed to a local paper that a GOP controlled Senate will mean endless motions to impeach the Guilty Traitor Clinton. Oh joy. I used to imagine just how the GOP could get worse. This year has answered that question very thoroughly.
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Samuel Clemens posted:IIRC, one of the Bush aides in 2004 called PA "fool's gold for Republicans", which seems like a fair assessment. It looks appealing to the GOP because it awards a lot of electoral votes and the margin is always fairly close, but Philadelphia pretty much ensures it'll remain blue outside of a horribly loopsided election. So, the Asia or Europe of Risk, then?
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lol this is like when that one dude was like "if you vote for clinton there'll be taco trucks on every corner!" not realizing that a bunch of people would be like "gently caress yeah i love taco trucks"
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-yes-donald-trump-has-a-path-to-victory/ We should just link to this the next time someone asks you to "Show the Map."
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NUH UH NOT TRUE - ralph douthat https://twitter.com/DouthatNYT/status/793619325001224192
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'm still having a hard time accepting the idea that Clinton could be up 5+ points. I just don't have that much faith in the American people since it should be C+20 or so because her opponent is a literal fascist surrounding himself with white supremacists. You act like this is surprising or something.   
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theflyingorc posted:WHICH the ones that caused Nate Silver to increase Trump's chances to 30% from 15% in a week do we like 538 here? I know he's less generous to Clinton than Princeton and NY Times and other predictors but still, we need look at data that accounts for "Brexit" level surprises
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I don't get why people are saying there isn't much post-Comery data yet, because why else are Hillary's numbers dropping in the newest polls?
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Are... are the GOP idiots? Moving to impeach HRC would be a catastrophe for them, especially since around 1/2 the Senate, at least, will be Democrats who will just use the opportunity to rail against the GOP publicly for their petty partisanship.
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Geostomp posted:I used to imagine just how the GOP could get worse. This year has answered that question very thoroughly. There's no way that the GoP will get the supermajority needed to actually remove Clinton from office if she were elected, but as Johnson said in the interview 'he's no lawyer.' So I guess just add impeachment proceedings to the the list of poo poo a GoP congress is going to waste everyone's time with over the next four years.
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:the ones that caused Nate Silver to increase Trump's chances to 30% from 15% in a week The polls impacting 538's shift mostly came at the end of last week.
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