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BiohazrD posted:All the Republican Party has to do is stop making GBS threads on immigration. Latino voters are extremely socially conservative. Latinos also overwhelmingly support the ACA, so welp.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:11
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MattD1zzl3 posted:This cannot be overstated. Calling it the alt right ties this new political movement in with traditional economic conservatism when it should really be seen as a social conservative movement. I haven't seen much evidence at all that the so-called "alt right" is a low taxes small government thing. More a response to the democratic party adopting increasingly radical social progressivism. When this trump bullshit is shaken it needs a new name. This supposes that they care about economics at all, which so far they don't. The world can explode in hellfire as long as their social spite is sated.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:13
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MattD1zzl3 posted:This cannot be overstated. Calling it the alt right ties this new political movement in with traditional economic conservatism when it should really be seen as a social conservative movement. I haven't seen much evidence at all that the so-called "alt right" is a low taxes small government thing. More a response to the democratic party adopting increasingly radical social progressivism. When this trump bullshit is shaken and there is no more republican party (i hope) it needs a new name. Can't we just call it "Stormfront leakage"
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Nov 2, 2016 04:16
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bencreateddisco posted:has that outlier poll saying 28% of registered republicans voted clinton in early voting in florida been discussed yet?
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Nov 2, 2016 04:16
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LinYutang posted:Enjoy that outlier poll, it's probably not true Idgi
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Nov 2, 2016 04:15
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RuanGacho posted:This supposes that they care about economics at all, which so far they don't. The world can explode in hellfire as long as their social spite is sated. Right, it's white supremacy. It's why conflating The Alt-Right with generic dipshit Trump supporters is incorrect. They're Super Extra Dipshits that don't even necessarily support Trump.
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RuanGacho posted:This supposes that they care about economics at all, which so far they don't. The world can explode in hellfire as long as their social spite is sated. The Bernie and Trump movements this election cycle have proved that nobody knows a drat thing about economics
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Nov 2, 2016 04:17
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Nov 2, 2016 04:17
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HannibalBarca posted:IN is one of six remaining competitive Senate races - the others are NV, NC, PA, NH, and MO (and that's if you give Feingold the benefit of the doubt in WI). Outlook is grim. Grim is a strong word in this case. I want what I most likely can't have and that's a +6 or +7 shift in the senate. It will most likely squeak by and I bet it will turn out 50/50 split with Kaine being the tie breaking vote for the first two years of his term (followed by GOP dominance again in the midterms) What I care about right now are Judicial vacancies. The GOP have kicked that can down the road long enough and they need to be filled. The GOP swearing up and down that they will not confirm anyone, SCOTUS included, for years is drat sickening to me and made it personal. I could give two shits about Bayh overall at this point but as long as he is pulling his weight I will give him a loving pass. God this election and country... 
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Nov 2, 2016 04:18
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I love the conservative news sites that just make up quotes for their articles. From another one there - Kaepernick stupidly says that he can’t salute the flag because “the U.S. is evil and filled with white racists.”
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Nov 2, 2016 04:19
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Nov 2, 2016 04:19
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So what the hell is the deal with this FBI foia twitter account suddenly springing back into life after a year and tweeting some puff piece about Fred Trump, and documents about Marc Rich/Clinton Foundation?
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Nov 2, 2016 04:20
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computer parts posted:Latinos also overwhelmingly support the ACA, so welp. Support, or supported? Uninsured rates among latinos has gone from 29% to 40% since 2013. http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2016/aug/who-are-the-remaining-uninsured
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spacetoaster posted:Support, or supported? Uninsured rates among latinos has gone from 29% to 40% since 2013. That is not what that article says.
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Nessus posted:Dude has a checkmark next to his name so he gets to decide what is and isn't real I mean if the +7 Trump poll is an outlier then so is that.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:21
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:The Bernie and Trump movements this election cycle have proved that nobody knows a drat thing about economics Yo, I'm gunna help yall out. If you build infrastructure in ways that increase military readiness, it also happens to improve civilian economics through logistical improvement. Ergo you make the country safer, more economically vibrant and more free if the costs of business are socialized. This is why the Ike man is the greatest.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:22
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BiohazrD posted:All the Republican Party has to do is stop making GBS threads on immigration. Latino voters are extremely socially conservative. Nah, turns out that's not actually true at all. And to the extent it is true, Hispanic and Asian immigrants tend to put a much lower emphasis on socially conservative issues in comparison to economic issues, where they're way more liberal than the Republican Party. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/417799/myth-socially-conservative-immigrant-mark-krikorian http://prospect.org/article/myth-buster-latinos-are-not-natural-conservatives https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...m=.c58761abd5a8 http://latinainstitute.org/es/2012/12/10/the-unraveling-of-the-latino-conservative-myth
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Nov 2, 2016 04:22
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Spiffster posted:Grim is a strong word in this case. I want what I most likely can't have and that's a +6 or +7 shift in the senate. It will most likely squeak by and I bet it will turn out 50/50 split with Kaine being the tie breaking vote for the first two years of his term (followed by GOP dominance again in the midterms) Having a political party as a whole openly saying that they'll prevent the government from doing anything solely because they feel entitled to own it all would get them totally disqualified in a sane world. Unfortunately, we live in a world where doing something this selfish and childish gets celebrated by a base radicalized by decades of media increasingly detached from reality and treated as normal by the rest of the media too intimidated to dare question it for fear of said base's wrath. I really do want to believe that we will someday improve, but it's looking increasingly unlikely so long as the GOP is allowed to continue to exist as it is.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:23
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Susan Sarandon is really goddamn stupid and just endorsed Stein.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:22
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spacetoaster posted:Support, or supported? Uninsured rates among latinos has gone from 29% to 40% since 2013. Like I'm going to quote this post again because it's incredibly dumb and reeks of "googled first result and posted blindly".
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Nov 2, 2016 04:23
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spacetoaster posted:Support, or supported? Uninsured rates among latinos has gone from 29% to 40% since 2013. Did you actually read what you posted or just grab a random link that had a convenient quote that sounded good?
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Nov 2, 2016 04:23
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Susan Sarandon decided to go full Bernout.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:25
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PT6A posted:Susan Sarandon is really goddamn stupid and just endorsed Stein. El Pollo Blanco posted:So what the hell is the deal with this FBI foia twitter account suddenly springing back into life after a year and tweeting some puff piece about Fred Trump, and documents about Marc Rich/Clinton Foundation?
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computer parts posted:Like I'm going to quote this post again because it's incredibly dumb and reeks of "googled first result and posted blindly". Ok, make me smarter. I did google for studies on latino involvement with the ACA. I read this report, then went to the read along and interactive explanation. Are you saying there is a better source? Or is the Commonwealth Fund some bad org that nobody should listen to? ImpAtom posted:Did you actually read what you posted or just grab a random link that had a convenient quote that sounded good? Of course I read it. What's wrong with it?
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Nov 2, 2016 04:27
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Winchester, Virginia is Trump Country. But it's principled, funny enough - once enough people heard about Q1 messing with the constitution, they became interested and attentive. We've been saying it a lot in this thread today - conservatives are not, by and large, evil people. You get out into the country, and there's a lot of folks who just wanna go to work and feed their kids, and they don't give a sweet drat about much else. They're not belligerent systemic racists, because systemic racism mostly runs into Not My Problem. But the housing crisis is everyone's problem. And for conservatives, the constitution is everyone's problem. When you hit them on that angle, they listen. Basically what I'm saying is that we don't have to destroy everyone. Just the ones spoiling for a fight. Most people don't seem to want to fight. They want to be heard, and they want action. So we listen and act. Fifty doors and 277 miles today. More tomorrow. Five days left.
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Northjayhawk posted:Susan Sarandon decided to go full Bernout. Her scowl during the DNC was totally my poo poo.
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Winchester, Virginia is Trump Country. But it's principled, funny enough - once enough people heard about Q1 messing with the constitution, they became interested and attentive. Thank you for your service.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:30
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Gorelab posted:I mean if the +7 Trump poll is an outlier then so is that. And? Even if it's 10%, Hill's got FL. If she has FL it's over. Besides the thing reporting that stat isn't a hypothetical. It actually happened.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:32
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Northjayhawk posted:Susan Sarandon decided to go full Bernout. “Fear of Donald Trump is not enough for me to support Clinton, with her record of corruption,” Sarandon’s letter reads. “Now that Trump is self-destructing, I feel even those in swing states have the opportunity to vote their conscience.” 
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Nov 2, 2016 04:35
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spacetoaster posted:Of course I read it. What's wrong with it? Okay. So why did you take "less Latinos are supporting the ACA" away from it? Because that isn't what it says. One, the numbers you quoted are the percentage of uninsured people which is influenced by the fact that more people are insured. The second is that the increase in that percentage among the Latino population isn't because of significant lack of support but nearly half of the Latinos were undocumented immigrants who are specifically excluded from the ACA. Hell, here is a quote right from it: quote:Finally, the growing share of Latinos in the shrinking number of uninsured people reflects both the growth of this population in the United States in general and the explicit exclusion of undocumented immigrants from the law’s coverage expansions. Immigration reform would help increase the numbers of people who are eligible for coverage, as would a loosening of the law’s restrictions on the eligibility of undocumented immigrants.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:36
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The ACA is awful. Don't defend it.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:37
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spacetoaster posted:Ok, make me smarter. The abstract you linked says that Hispanics went from 29% of the uninsured population to 40% of the uninsured population. That is different than the uninsured rates for the Hispanic population rising from 29% to 40%. Since the rest of the abstract talks about the share of uninsured Whites dropping and poverty being the issue, the takeaway isn't that Hispanics are dropping out of the insurance marketplace. Rather the takeaway is that the rising tide is lifting white people's boats and flooding everyone else's boats. Gyges fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Nov 2, 2016 |
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I've also noticed that when the candidates, and not just pundits talking about them, are in the news then Clinton does much better and Trump does much worse. She did great in polling during the debates and Trump did terrible, same with right after the convention. She has done poorly when there are lulls and people seem to forget that Trump is a complete idiot. So basically if she wins there is a good probability that the country, seeing here every day, begins to support her more and more. If Trump wins, I'd expect his approvals to tank quickly and we end up with a huge D wave in 2018 (good timing for redistributing!) So basically if Trump doesn't get everyone on the planet killed things will be okay.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:38
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TheBigAristotle posted:“Fear of Donald Trump is not enough for me to support Clinton, with her record of corruption,” Sarandon’s letter reads. “Now that Trump is self-destructing, I feel even those in swing states have the opportunity to vote their conscience.” What record of corruption? No seriously.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:39
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im gay posted:The ACA is awful. Don't defend it. You're wrong.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:39
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Is the alt-right the same thing as neoreactionaries? One spews overt racism and the other one just has casual racism so it's hard to tell the difference.
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Nov 2, 2016 04:40
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bewilderment posted:Is the alt-right the same thing as neoreactionaries? One spews overt racism and the other one just has casual racism so it's hard to tell the difference. Why "neo"?
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Nov 2, 2016 04:41
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im gay posted:The ACA is awful. Don't defend it. It's not great but it's better than what we had before.
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TheBigAristotle posted:“Fear of Donald Trump is not enough for me to support Clinton, with her record of corruption,” Sarandon’s letter reads. “Now that Trump is self-destructing, I feel even those in swing states have the opportunity to vote their conscience.” Dammit, Janet.
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