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Cingulate posted:How do you know they're Black Americans? Do they get really pronounced AAVE pronunciation? Or someone who thinks Blacks Rule.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Holy poo poo. How do they reconcile the Hillary super predator thing with the leniency towards drug dealers thing. The two can't exist together. Either she has a hard line stance on criminals in black neighbourhoods or she thinks people in black communities have been unfairly treated.
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Skanker posted:How do they reconcile the Hillary super predator thing with the leniency towards drug dealers thing. The two can't exist together. Either she has a hard line stance on criminals in black neighbourhoods or she thinks people in black communities have been unfairly treated. Ben Carson is a neurosurgeon, you see.
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Going by past elections where high turnout favors Democrats and early voting favors Democrats, the record-high numbers voting early in several states is pretty great news for Democrats, right?
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edrith posted:https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/792795095862870017 Having someone who is willing to straight up say "No, being gay isn't a goddamn disease to be cured, you loving barbarians" is going to be much better than "Well I certainly feel the pain of these inbred hicks and understand the whole christian persecution complex, but the federal government needs to be fair" but I'm dying to hear how this translates into Hillary saying gay kids won't get obamacare coverage anymore.
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Harrow posted:Going by past elections where high turnout favors Democrats and early voting favors Democrats, the record-high numbers voting early in several states is pretty great news for Democrats, right? Sounds to me like your television is stuck on CNN? Consider replacing it.
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Harrow posted:Going by past elections where high turnout favors Democrats and early voting favors Democrats, the record-high numbers voting early in several states is pretty great news for Democrats, right? I believe it is good, if no reason to sit on your rear end. If the story of 28% GOP votes going to Hillary for Pres. are true, well then Trump's stumped.
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Harrow posted:Going by past elections where high turnout favors Democrats and early voting favors Democrats, the record-high numbers voting early in several states is pretty great news for Democrats, right? Probably, although the myriad of changes since 2012 and the fact that only a small percentage of total voters participates in EV makes it difficult to reach any definite conclusions. As best as we know, Clinton is currently doing well in NV, CO, and NC, though FL and OH are still up in the air.
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Kilroy posted:Well for one there are the people who don't watch stuff like a Louis CK or a Dave Chappelle set, and don't count video games among their hobbies because it takes away from range time and handloading and otherwise preparing for the end of the world or RaHoWa or Hillary Clinton being elected President - or all of the above. So for these people yeah you can't call them racist because if they see a black person they have the discipline not to immediately shout racial slurs at them or brandish a firearm, so this makes them Not Racist. Basically this. Also just look at how the media has covered alllivesmatter as a legitimate counter opinion to blacklivesmatter. BLM is mainly concerned with black people not being killed for no reason and the only way to report on that is to act like they are making some sort of attack on the police and that white people who are offended by that are totally legitimate in their opinion. Additionally look at the disparity in reporting of the Trump supporter that murdered two police officers or the white couple that killed people in Las Vegas then draped a Tea Party flag over the bodies after leaving the Bundy ranch. None of that was reported as "white culture" leading to violent extremism but if those people were black there would be no shortage of serious white people making statements about how black culture is to blame or if they were muslim why aren't Islamic leaders denouncing this? Implying racism actually still affects minorities REALLY offends most white people (even a lot of Democrats so it's not just a Republican thing) since they don't want to admit they have structural advantages which means they didn't earn what they have at the expense of others. Culturally bumping against this gets a lot of push back on many levels including politicians and the media both mainstream and social. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Samuel Clemens posted:Probably, although the myriad of changes since 2012 and the fact that only a small percentage of total voters participates in EV makes it difficult to reach any definite conclusion. As best as we know, Clinton is currently doing well in NV, CO, and NC, though FL and OH are still up in the air.
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Potato Salad posted:its a loving tracking poll Do you understand what a tracking poll is? Why should that matter? It's just a normal poll with sample taken over a sliding window of a few days.
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Nessus posted:I get the feeling we may narrowly lose Ohio, but we will know that Satan, Loki, or SOMEONE is looking out for us if they narrowly get Ohio.................... and narrowly lose Texas. Not gonna lie, I'd be okay with a scenario where Clinton loses OH and FL and still wins the election. The tears from all the old white men who realise that they no longer decide elections would be glorious.
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edrith posted:https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/792795095862870017 Things like this makes my heart lift a bit even as I fight the corner of my brain that's going to be Arzying nonstop til Wednesday. gently caress conversion therapy and anyone who advocates for it.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Not gonna lie, I'd be okay with a scenario where Clinton loses OH and FL and still wins the election. The tears from all the old white men who realise that they no longer decide elections would be glorious. She won't lose FL precisely because it has less old white men than it used to.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Not gonna lie, I'd be okay with a scenario where Clinton loses OH and FL and still wins the election. The tears from all the old white men who realise that they no longer decide elections would be glorious.
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AriadneThread posted:"hillary refuses therapy for gays, condemning them to hell" good, hell is probably more fun any way.
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Radish posted:Basically this. Also just look at how the media has covered alllivesmatter as a legitimate counter opinion to blacklivesmatter. BLM is mainly concerned with black people not being killed for no reason and the only way to report on that is to act like they are making some sort of attack on the police and that white people who are offended by that are totally legitimate in their opinion. Additionally look at the disparity in reporting of the Trump supporter that murdered two police officers or the white couple that killed a people in Las Vegas then draped a Tea Party flag over the bodies after leaving the Bundy ranch. None of that was reported as "white culture" leading to violent extremism but if those people were black there would be no shortage of serious white people making statements about how black culture is to blame or if they were muslim why aren't Islamic leaders denouncing this? Implying racism actually still affects minorities REALLY offends most white people (even a lot of Democrats so it's not just a Republican thing) since they don't want to admit they have structural advantages which means they didn't earn what they have at the expense of others. Culturally bumping against this gets a lot of push back on many levels including politicians and the media both mainstream and social. At any rate another thing you touch on is that the media is incapable of just dismissing disingenuous, wrong arguments. As in, not giving them airtime. (Unless they are made by a leftist, in which case they're not going on, disingenuous or otherwise.)
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edrith posted:https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/792795095862870017 Good stuff. This is another "debate" where there is only one legitimate side (torture is bad and lgbt people don't have a sickness) and everyone on the other shouldn't be coddled because it's not PC to imply they are just wrong.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Voter Enthusiasm: Are you very enthusiastic and motivated to vote? This poo poo right here needs to be quoted at mcmagic every time he argues Bernie would be doing better.
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WampaLord posted:She won't lose FL precisely because it has less old white men than it used to. Yeah, probably, but if she did it would be because white voters came out in droves. The fact that their efforts would be in vain is rather comforting.
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I'm the 11% who were fired up by Comey to go vote for Hillary. Also possibly the 1% of Republicans who were. Those people seem like they must be interesting.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:New NYT/CBS National Poll. gently caress first/second year poli sci idiots. Ideological purity is unrealistic, grow the gently caress up.
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WampaLord posted:This poo poo right here needs to be quoted at mcmagic every time he argues Bernie would be doing better. I think the logical response that he would make would be that Bernie would motivate those younger voters more and wouldn't be down that low.
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I thought this may be of interest to this thread: My friend wrote an interesting thing on the rise of Donald Trump from a non-partisan perspective. quote:If you've had the misfortune of getting into some kind of "deep" (inebriated) conversation with me over the past couple of years, you've likely heard me babbling on about some weird thing called "affect". While most of the work I've been doing in school over the past year has focused on aesthetics in music and visual art, I've recently written a piece on how affect pertains to politics, and can be used to understand the growing popularity of Donald Trump in the upcoming presidential elections. In trying to make this piece more accessible in its readership and provide a simpler explanation of affect theory, I've avoided using a lot of academic jargon, and brought Ronald Reagan, Rob Ford, and Homer Simpson into the mix as case studies. http://caughtgettingcaughtinthemotion.tumblr.com/post/152664170618/a-trumped-up-feeling-affect-and-postmodern-power
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Chelb posted:Nevada's looking like it might be a lock for hillary If this is he case, why does 538 have Nevada 50/50? Also, why is Florida red? Urge to arzy rising... 
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Agrajag posted:gently caress first/second year poli sci idiots. lol nobody does that
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Militree posted:If this is he case, why does 538 have Nevada 50/50? Also, why is Florida red? Urge to arzy rising... 538 isnt adjusting its model on early voting, is why.
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Militree posted:If this is he case, why does 538 have Nevada 50/50? Also, why is Florida red? Urge to arzy rising...
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So, umm, is there a reason that the @potus Twitter metadata is in Cyrillic today? Checked to see if Obama had anything to say about the Cubs (he did, and invited them to the White House), and was a little taken aback by that
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comingafteryouall posted:Has 60+% of NV really voted? That number seems insane to me. I wish PA had early voting as far as i know nevada is sort of special in how many people early vote there. might be wrong on that tho
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Chelb posted:as far as i know nevada is sort of special in how many people early vote there. might be wrong on that tho
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Kilroy posted:Who is covering All Lives Matter as a legitimate thing? I don't doubt it for a second I just avoid mainstream news generally so I hadn't noticed. Is it like, you get literal white supremacists from ALM on CNN and poo poo? I have a pretty poor opinion of the national media but that would surprise me. I may be confusing active media support with CNN panels and such like this one: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._and_crime.html where the headline is implying the BLM activist is rejecting statistics and turning the panel into a shouting match so that's possibly my bad. I can't easily find pundit stuff from 2015 when ALM was more popular. Whitelivesmatter was the movement that was explicitly white supremacist with nazi leaders. ALM, as a phrase, initially was more popular than BLM since it sounded inclusive but has recently had push back in the last year so it's not as easy to just say it and claim you care about everyone. There was a lot of initial push for it that has died down a lot thankfully.
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WampaLord posted:This poo poo right here needs to be quoted at mcmagic every time he argues Bernie would be doing better. How does that prove Bernie wouldn't be doing better?
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