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Combed Thunderclap posted:gently caress gently caress gently caress how are we going to get our hands on those sweet sweet Trump tears now Y'all Qaeda had a pretty good stream setup going, since they got acquitted just invite them over, it'll be the most tremendous election coverage Especially when they refuse to leave Inferior Third Season posted:The best Final Fantasy is Galaxy Quest. That is simultaneously nonsense and a correct statement. I applaud you.
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Rangpur posted:Ogre Battle provides the best blueprint for implementing political change. Specifically, you appoint a weak, dumb but charismatic leader and use shiny, happy staff at all public appearances while the bulk of your campaign consists of soul-sucking liches, vampire assassins leading werewolf hit squads, and literal Dark Ones. You make a great show of taking the rigteous path, while quietly doubling back and cutting deals with pumpkin witches once you can afford the hit to your reputation, and the important alliances are secured. So Deneb is Putin?
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Fart Amplifier posted:Hey America, don't loving elect Donald Trump. We're loving trying not to! 
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Apraxin posted:I bet he's watching Obama speaking in Miami as he tweets. It's been glorious, he's absolutely unloading on Trump; I've never seen him this angry at a person (rather than an issue) before.Went through all Trump's personal failings, called out his racism, sexism, and said nothing about his horrible character would change by being elected except that he'll 'have more power to carry out (his) twisted notions than (he) had before"! It was really powerful. I know Hillary's taking the 'go high' approach, but it was great to hear someone throw Trump's poo poo back at him. This is the bit I was talking about, if anyone wants to watch. Apraxin fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I think it's incredibly unlikely he pulls off that trick as I've said all year, but I think we're looking at 322-216-ish. It wouldn't be a shitshow at all. They would elect Trump in 2 seconds.
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theflyingorc posted:No, he does not. He doesn't have him winning NH. Well aren't I dumb?
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mcmagic posted:It wouldn't be a shitshow at all. They would elect Trump in 2 seconds. From an optics perspective and the media circus around it. Obviously I know how it would end, there buddy. SamuraiFoochs posted:Nate has Trump winning all of those right now though. He's not going to win NV and prolly not NC or FL
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1. Why is Trump now leading in Ohio? Did Romney have that state at this point in time 4 years ago? 2. Can we still hope for a dem senate majority?
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Nate has Trump winning all of those right now though. He can't win that route without getting NH, which is still moderately strong blue on 538 (it's about as blue as Arizona is red.) Meanwhile, their projection gives him barely more than a coinflip in multiple must-win states. If he drops FL, NC, or NV, it's basically over (especially FL.) mcmagic posted:It wouldn't be a shitshow at all. They would elect Trump in 2 seconds. Sounds like a shitshow to me!
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mcmagic posted:It wouldn't be a shitshow at all. They would elect Trump in 2 seconds. It's 1 state= 1 vote, right? So he'd crush Hillary since the Democratic reps are largely concentrated.
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Straight White Shark posted:Electoral tie gets decided by Congress, which is pretty Republican-heavy and is a pretty safe bet for Trump. lozzle posted:A tie is effectively a Trump win but yeah you're right. An electoral tie with Clinton losing a few swing states by less than 0.5 percent, while winning the popular vote, only for Trump to get the presidency from Congress would be the perfect finale to this goddamn election season. Your Democracy would literally be over after that.
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Inferior Third Season posted:The best Final Fantasy is Galaxy Quest. You mean mystic quest?
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Grouchio posted:1. Why is Trump now leading in Ohio? Did Romney have that state at this point in time 4 years ago? 1. Ohio is a terrible place filled with terrible people. 2. Yes but don't hold your breath.
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Mister Adequate posted:Yeah, but I have an encyclopedic knowledge of Dragon Age to make up for it! Being able to quote video games and obscure shows means I'm fun, right?
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Grouchio posted:1. Why is Trump now leading in Ohio? Did Romney have that state at this point in time 4 years ago? Currently a dem senate is still likely.
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Grouchio posted:1. Why is Trump now leading in Ohio? Did Romney have that state at this point in time 4 years ago? 1: Ohio is about demographics shifting away from Dems and basically a bunch of white assholes empowered by Trump that weren't by Romney. 2: Yes, polling continues to look like Dems have a good chance to flip the Senate.
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If the last two elections are an example, Nevada will break for the dems by 4-6 points more than the RCP average. That's at T+2 right now. So yeah, likely a Clinton victory there
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Grouchio posted:1. Why is Trump now leading in Ohio? Did Romney have that state at this point in time 4 years ago? 1. White people or something? Trump took the lead there a while back and hasn't really let go. 2. Yes. That's still the most likely outcome, but a number of the races are within margin of error.
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Straight White Shark posted:He can't win that route without getting NH, which is still moderately strong blue on 538 (it's about as blue as Arizona is red.) Meanwhile, their projection gives him barely more than a coinflip in multiple must-win states. If he drops FL, NC, or NV, it's basically over (especially FL.) I'm not Arzying hard here, I'm more just baffled that its possibly tightened THIS much.
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Mr. Belding posted:That is not the argument that I'm making. What I am saying is that if a weak candidate should lose to a strong candidate by a large margin and Donald Trump does not lose to HRC by a large margin, then either he is not a weak candidate or she is not a strong candidate. I believe he is a weak candidate therefore I am likely to believe that another Democrat would have been better. You would still be welcome to believe that they are both strong candidates or that they are both weak, but there is not another democrat who is stronger out there. You could not reasonably believe that he's a weak candidate and she is a strong candidate, if you accept that a weak candidate should lose to a strong one by a large margin (which is basically the only way those words are meaningful). Right, and I'm saying you have no justification for this. A 'weak' candidate isn't going to necessarily lose by a large amount when there are other factors in play. There is a not-insignificant part of the electorate who will vote R no matter WHO is on the ticket because they are trained to, or because there is a Supreme Court Justice available or because while Donald Trump is terrifying to everyone outside of his base he is legitimately energizing to a specific segment of his base. The biggest landslide in any recent election was 58% for Saint Reagan and we're unlikely to see any candidate (especially a democrat) replicate that anytime soon.
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Admiral Ray posted:Being able to quote video games and obscure shows means I'm fun, right? This Troper thinks that we should be asking more questions about Hilary's email serv-- 
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I'm not Arzying hard here, I'm more just baffled that its possibly tightened THIS much. Republicans basically came home because they're terrible people who would vote for loving Hitler.
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This is a local issue, but it might speak to national problems. I'm really concerned with how ballot measures are presented. For example in Missouri we have a ballot measure that is presented more or less like this: should we raise a tax on tobacco and use that money to fund education? First reaction: hell ya. Slam dunk, sounds like a great idea. Yesterday I got an email from the MNEA telling me to vote that tax down because what it does it set up a unelected board to oversee the allocation of education funding ( i assume only the funding related to the tax) and also allows public tax money (I hope only that specific money but who knows) to go to private and religious schools. I know people will be like "it's on the voter to inform themselves" but... I'm just annoyed because it feels dishonest to hide poo poo parts of these things when we're voting to amend our Constitution.
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Kilroy posted:Well for one there are the people who don't watch stuff like a Louis CK or a Dave Chappelle set, and don't count video games among their hobbies because it takes away from range time and handloading and otherwise preparing for the end of the world or RaHoWa or Hillary Clinton being elected President - or all of the above. So for these people yeah you can't call them racist because if they see a black person they have the discipline not to immediately shout racial slurs at them or brandish a firearm, so this makes them Not Racist. Well, the coping mechanisms they use on this board is trolling, reporting, then getting a mod that tacitly approves of the aforementioned two methods to then probate/ban you for dating to not want to be dehumanized. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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theflyingorc posted:Ross up FOUR? Quinnipiac from yesterday had Clinton +3 in NC so v  v
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My Linux Rig posted:I don't get it, trump is winning now? Should I start building a bunker? lol, "start"? If you aren't almost done by now you're screwed
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Grouchio posted:1. Why is Trump now leading in Ohio? Did Romney have that state at this point in time 4 years ago? Historically, Ohio votes for the candidate which promises to make the most change, so Ohio becomes less like Ohio.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Am I too late for JRPG chat? I really liked Septerra Core! Holy poo poo, I was convinced I had imagined this game and that it didn't actually exist.
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I lived in Haverhill for the past two years before moving back to Boston, and I don't find it difficult to believe at all that New Hampshire would vote Trump. It's a nightmarish state filled with the conservative/libertarian idiots that commute 90+ minutes to Boston every day rather than live in TAXACHUSETTS. I'm almost surprised it was polling as far toward Clinton as it had been. Still doesn't matter, but seriously gently caress New Hampshire. Except the white mountains and the state liquor stores.
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cant cook creole bream posted:I knew that, but still.
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alpha_destroy posted:This is a local issue, but it might speak to national problems. In Jersey we have something like this in regards to a gas tax and I have no real clue how to vote for it.
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Mazed posted:So Deneb is Putin? Trump's campaign represents a newbie playing Ogre Battle, trying to overcome everything with the central figurehead, which seems like a strong option as you sweep the field clean of early, lesser would-be leaders but ultimately sows the seeds of its own destruction because it undermines broader support and robs you of the power alliances bring. Meanwhile, nobody trusts Hillary because you just know she's going to trade the holy blade to a demon lord when she gets the chance. We're well on our way to the darkest ending by now.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Republicans basically came home because they're terrible people who would vote for loving Hitler. loving Republicans.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Historically, Ohio votes for the candidate which promises to make the most change, so Ohio becomes less like Ohio. If people in Ohio think it's turned into such a garbage state that they'd vote for Donald loving Trump just to shake things up, why don't they loving move to someplace that isn't a shithole? "My state is terrible! Instead of doing the sensible thing and leaving because I don't like where I live, I'm going to sit here and bitch like an impotent sack of poo poo!"
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alpha_destroy posted:This is a local issue, but it might speak to national problems. There's only so much room they reasonably have to explain those initiatives, though. In your case, it's not the facts of the measure that are even in dispute (unless it's worded really badly, it's not like the money isn't going to education), only the specifics of the implementation. There comes a point where you have to stop before the voters just get lost in the weeds.
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PT6A posted:If people in Ohio think it's turned into such a garbage state that they'd vote for Donald loving Trump just to shake things up, why don't they loving move to someplace that isn't a shithole? Many people can not afford to move somewhere else. The ones who can do leaving the people least capable of dealing with lovely situations in a shittier situation.
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PT6A posted:If people in Ohio think it's turned into such a garbage state that they'd vote for Donald loving Trump just to shake things up, why don't they loving move to someplace that isn't a shithole? Old white people hate to move.
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Grouchio posted:1. Why is Trump now leading in Ohio? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr3ftmvO7Oc
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alpha_destroy posted:This is a local issue, but it might speak to national problems. This is the entire story of Florida's Amendment 1, but add in state Supreme Court Justices allowing the lovely language to pass.
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