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Harrow posted:Here's the thing about impeachment: I think it will come down to how much pressure there is to do so from the voters and Freedom Caucus. When they've been claiming Hillary is literally a criminal the true believers, both in positions of power and the regular voters, aren't going to be satisfied with merely stopping her agenda. I think partially why Trump was able to successfully win the nomination is that the GOP in general didn't do enough to fight against Obama and thus were complicit in his presidency. Trump, not being a real politician up to that point, had no history of actually doing anything and didn't have to answer for anything. Obama was hated but they didn't have a lot of actual scandals stick that were something they could really drum up. With Clinton they have thirty years of smoke and can use pretty much anything to claim she needs to be further investigated and the hate for her is a lot more intense. Boot and Rally posted:I don't understand impeaching the President when you can't convict in the House. I guess it gives you something to campaign on? Without it would Gore have easily one Florida? It is so obviously partisan that anyone who says "but Bill Clinton was impeached!" obviously never liked the guy to begin with, like a Red Sox fan calling the Yankees cheaters or something. Of course they would think/say/do that. People's understanding of civics is generally bad so saying she was impeached is just as good to some people as if she was actually convicted. Bill Clinton being impeached was obviously based on very little and purely political since it was just a House vote but people will still use it as a reason he got away with a crime. Blue Footed Booby posted:He plead down to contributing to delinquency, which isn't a sex crime. Gotcha. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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I was listening to the latest Trumpcast from Tuesday on my commute and wanted to draw attention to it since this election moves so fast: How Trump Duped the Republican Party Into Funding Its Own Destruction The long and short of it is that after the dismal failure of Orca in the 2012 election, Reince Priebus poured 100 million dollars of RNC money into a data operation to be used in 2016. When Trump became the nominee, he handed the keys to Trump, who now has millions of readily available marks he can swindle after the election. That data might be the most valuable thing Trump owns. There's even more in the actual article Joshua Green wrote for Bloomberg.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Ah, but there is a solution for that, my friend! edit: more in general, I heard that techniques of persuasion works the best on people who are convinced they don't work on them. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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teen witch posted:This guy screams "actually its ephebophilia I don't know what this means and I'm not going to look it up. Apparently Virginians are, because Virginia sucks.
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just an fyi but if New Hampshire goes red and Georgia goes blue me and every other liberal from the South are going to laugh at you dumb yankees.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Apparently he was only convicted of Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor, a misdemeanor charge. Also, he stepped down as a state rep then RAN IN THE SPECIAL ELECTION TO FILL HIS SEAT, and while SERVING HIS JAIL TIME, HE WON. Well, they do say Virginia is For Lovers... I am so, so sorry for that terrible joke. Please forgive me.
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Considering many people of color in this thread have expressed concern modding is biased against them, I am not sure the best course of action is to punish them for expressing it.
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like mlk, i believe in a world where people can be punished for thread derailing meltdowns regardless of their skin color Mel Mudkiper posted:Considering many people of color in this thread have expressed concern modding is biased against them, I am not sure the best course of action is to punish them for expressing it. and yet the only people who get probied while saying this are tiny bronto and gfsincere, tiny bronto previously banned from uspol for endless angry freakouts and gfsincere believes that bigfoot is abducting hundreds of american citizens per year boner confessor fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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I think most of us are on board with the fact that HRC is going to win next week, probably comfortably. We probably won't retake the senate but we're expecting that. What I don't think we're prepared for - what our blood pressure isn't prepared for - is the media continuing its campaign against Clinton throughout her first term and likely her second, if she gets one. They're going to lend legitimacy to every petty impeachment attempt and every hearing on emailghazi. They've tasted blood and I see no reason for them to stop just because she won. The only difference will be no Trump, so she gets 100% of their focus.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Considering many people of color in this thread have expressed concern modding is biased against them, I am not sure the best course of action is to punish them for expressing it. see u in 24 hours, fucko
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Holybshit the Richmond VA mayoral race is almost crazier than Trump. Literal convicted pedophile in the lead? loving gently caress don't remind me. Yeah I can effort post about this if anyone cares. But long story short Joe Morrissey, noted creeper and guy who got arrested for having sex with a (black, this is important for... well) 16 year old and then later married her in a weird plantation-themed (you see) wedding, is leading. Unfortunately for everyone, not only does he have a thoroughly undeserved reputation for being a fighter for the city's black population, he's also genuinely amazing at retail politics. He's very much an even skeevier Bill Clinton. It's not that there aren't any cool people running. Arguably there were three great candidates and some other ok candidates. But this created a perverse system like the primary that gave us Donald Trump; they're all splitting the vote, and Morrissey is winning with like 35%. Now Richmond has a weird mayoral election system. In order to be elected on the first round you must win not only a plurality of the overall vote but also a plurality of the vote in five of the nine districts. This was a compromise hammered out to ensure mayors would have to appeal to the entire city, not just run up the score in lily white districts. So there is a distinct possibility this doesn't happen, in which case we get thrown into a runoff with only the top two candidates (Morrissey and either Stoney or Berry it looks like), a situation where Morrissey is on much less strong footing, and where coverage of the race doesn't get swallowed whole by the trumpster fire. We've already had one of the ok candidates drop out to try and force this outcome, and there's a movement afoot to strategic vote and deny districts to Morrissey. We will see if it works.
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Agean90 posted:just an fyi but if New Hampshire goes red and Georgia goes blue me and every other liberal from the South are going to laugh at you dumb yankees. Good. For far too long, NH has profited from the upstanding reputation of its neighbours. Time to expose it for the abomination that it truly is.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I don't know what this means and I'm not going to look it up. Pedophilia technically (or is it "technically") prep prepubescent. Ephebophilia is teenagers. Theres a term for tweenagers but I don't remember. Anyway, molesters very consistently rationalize their actions, and "the age of consent should be lower" is common. Girl was seventeen. In some states it'd actually be legal. Virginia is not one of them.
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Arcanen posted:This is interesting stuff. Slurs being one of the only firmly socially agreed-upon bellweathers of racism is certainly used by people as a (lovely) excuse for permitting other forms of racism, but this isn't a unique thing. Think about all the excuses for bad behavior toward minorities that whites have had over the years and still have today: "Well, it's not like I ever had slaves so..." "We let them vote now so..." "One of my best friends is a PoC so..." are all pretty similar to "I didn't say the n-word so..." in that the avoidance of obvious racism in one situation is somehow supposed to serve as evidence of the impossibility of being racist in other situations. I do think the public needs to be smarter about identifying and shunning less obvious forms of racist language, but I also don't think the awareness of slurs as irredeemably bad is a barrier to this. Dog whistles and other forms of coded racist language will always be a problem due to the flexibility of language, so even if banishing slurs enables them in some small way, I'll take it over slurs still being acceptable.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Just wanna say that this is a crushingly depressing post and makes me want to reach for a drink. A journey into the right wing delusion mindset always is. Their knee-jerk emotional reaction after every event is the most important thing and they will not rest until they reach a point where they aren't constantly scared anymore. Have you visited the Freep thread to see purestrain "conservative truth" in action? What depresses me is less the horrible world that nearly half the country seems to live in, but how far everyone "moderate" goes to justify it later. Especially when the large number of
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Geostomp posted:They managed to recover from the shutdown of 2013 and blocking the Supreme Court nominee when the public forgot about it, so they might well be willing to try to muddy the waters with an impeachment stunt if they get desperate enough. Their base will be yearning for more Trump-style "conservative warriors" so I imagine they'd try it in 2018 or so to get the base more motivated to give them full control of Congress again. No matter what, 2018 is going to be ugly. Democrats need a Senate majority now so that Clinton can get through a SCOTUS appointment before 2018. And, honestly, Notorious RBG should probably retire if Clinton wins and the Democrats win a Senate majority--not because I want her to be gone, I definitely don't, but because it might be best to let Clinton nominate a replacement at a time when that replacement could actually be confirmed, rather than wait until her health no longer allows her to serve as a SCOTUS justice, which could well be at a time when the Republicans hang on to a Senate majority. Cement that liberal majority while they can, y'know? Of course, if the Democrats don't win a Senate majority, then I'll just have to hope Ginsburg is literally immortal. 
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:I disagree. Cracker, I believe, came originally from an 1800s slur for Southern white people who were so poor they mixed dirt and mud to eat for food which were euphemistically referred to as crackers. In Florida the term is from whip cracker, and crack shot. Whip cracker referring to cattle herding cowboys. Crack shot referring to confederate soldiers from Florida. Don't know about other states.
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Soothing Vapors posted:see u in 24 hours, fucko *as he is dragged to the leper's colony* sssssssssssvvvvvvvvvvvv'sssssssss wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiffffffffffffffffffffff--
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Agean90 posted:Felony popery is very underrated crime imo Popery is a serious crime, he certainly wouldn't come out smelling like a rose. Maybe lilac, or sandalwood.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Pedophilia technically (or is it "technically") prep prepubescent. Ephebophilia is teenagers. Theres a term for tweenagers but I don't remember. nope nope nope nope veto ixnay nope we're not doing this
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Blue Footed Booby posted:In some states it'd actually be legal. This girl is two years younger than Lewinsky was. Guy's a gross creepshow no doubt, but posts like this teen witch posted:This guy screams "actually its ephebophilia are pretty stupid.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Pedophilia technically (or is it "technically") prep prepubescent. Ephebophilia is teenagers. Theres a term for tweenagers but I don't remember. No.
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I don't know what this means and I'm not going to look it up. "ephebophilia" means that you aren't attracted to actual little kids, but are attracted to teenagers, like people aged 15-18. Anyone you ever hear concerned about the distinction is telling you about it because they REAAAALLLLLYYYY want to have sex with 15 year olds and don't want you to judge them for it.
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teen witch posted:This guy screams "actually its ephebophilia Unfortunately, black voters. Guy has a law firm with a reputation for doing things like getting young first offenders off, helping with voting rights restoration, that sort of thing. He accomplished precisely nothing in the state legislature, and it's not like he doesn't charge for his services, but between that and his absolute mastery of the art of door-to-door handshake politics he has a huge following in the historically black parts of Richmond. It's a city long dominated by racial politics for obvious reasons; it's why it was such a huge deal when harmonica dad Tim Kaine became the first white mayor since civil rights.
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Geostomp posted:Have you visited the Freep thread to see purestrain "conservative truth" in action? I've moved past (and healed  ) the self-destruction phase of my life, I don't think I want to revisit that sort of self-harm.
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theflyingorc posted:Anyone you ever hear concerned about the distinction is telling you about it because they REAAAALLLLLYYYY want to have sex with 15 year olds and don't want you to judge them for it. When people are posting "how could anyone in virginia vote for a PEDOPHILE" the distinction becomes remarkably relevant.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:nope You'll note I called him a molester.
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Quorum posted:Unfortunately, black voters. Guy has a law firm with a reputation for doing things like getting young first offenders off, Seems to really enjoy getting young people off I guess
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Pedophilia technically (or is it "technically") prep prepubescent. Ephebophilia is teenagers. Theres a term for tweenagers but I don't remember. I hope we never have to have this conversation again.
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Nevvy Z posted:This girl is two years younger than Lewinsky was. Guy's a gross creepshow no doubt, but posts like this please, let's not consider any part of this creepy /cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3720606/555e2102f2d6e.image.jpg)
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Quorum posted:Unfortunately, black voters. Guy has a law firm with a reputation for doing things like getting young first offenders off, helping with voting rights restoration, that sort of thing. He accomplished precisely nothing in the state legislature, and it's not like he doesn't charge for his services, but between that and his absolute mastery of the art of door-to-door handshake politics he has a huge following in the historically black parts of Richmond. It's a city long dominated by racial politics for obvious reasons; it's why it was such a huge deal when harmonica dad Tim Kaine became the first white mayor since civil rights. So this dude is a loving predator. Neat.
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boner confessor posted:please, let's not consider any part of this creepy is that the girl? As I age fully grown adults I see passing through campus all look like children. This is gross. this picture is gross
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Nevvy Z posted:is that the girl? As I age fully grown adults I see passing through campus all look like children. the older i get the more i consider anyone younger than 25 a child
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Trabisnikof posted:
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Harrow posted:No matter what, 2018 is going to be ugly. I know. If the country is to function at all, we absolutely must use the upcoming two years to ram through everything we can which will require the Democrats to not start turning on each other again. Yeah, I don't have high hopes for that.
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teen witch posted:So this dude is a loving predator. Neat. Yes. There's a reason I described him as an even skeevier Bill Clinton, with all Bill's personal charisma. Meeting the guy is weird because you can't help but kind of like him until he walks away, when you realize how creepy he is.
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