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Is there any measurable difference between a cheap $20 airbrush that has all the good features (like dual action, gravity fed, internal mix etc) vs an expensive $200 airbrush? Things like less likely to clog, easier to clean, can handle thicker paint, or is it all for the XTREME PATRIOT BOOTYSMASHER advertising?
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XTREME PATRIOT BOOTYSMASHER is a good username
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Hamshot posted:Is there any measurable difference between a cheap $20 airbrush that has all the good features (like dual action, gravity fed, internal mix etc) vs an expensive $200 airbrush? Things like less likely to clog, easier to clean, can handle thicker paint, or is it all for the XTREME PATRIOT BOOTYSMASHER advertising? the cheaper airbrushes are usually chinese clones of the more expensive ones, and they will generally do well for broad airbrush effects. Where the prices start to differentiate the two is when it comes to maintenance and durability; the more expensive ones will typically be much easier to maintain than the cheaper ones, as a result of first-cast parts vs. old reused molds, and general support from the manufacturer for its lines. They're all airbrushes though, so they're all going to be finnicky assholes that require lots of cleaning.
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Nov 4, 2016 07:28
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Cheap knock-off quality on some of the devilishly small threads an airbrush have could be a recipe for crossthreading disaster. Especially since you will frequently be dismantling and reassembling for cleaning. Although if you get up to like the $200 you're in a different marketplace of ultrafine detail airbrushes that you probably don't need or want for learning on.
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Hamshot posted:Is there any measurable difference between a cheap $20 airbrush that has all the good features (like dual action, gravity fed, internal mix etc) vs an expensive $200 airbrush? Things like less likely to clog, easier to clean, can handle thicker paint, or is it all for the XTREME PATRIOT BOOTYSMASHER advertising? Or just stay with the knockoff, depending on what you want it for. It's good for priming, basecoating and varnishing.
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Nov 4, 2016 12:45
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goodness posted:Do they go on sale for less than $80 often? I picked mine up for about £30, not sure what US sellers are up to but they all come out of the same factory in china so set an alert I guess. Pierzak posted:Same thing but made 20x better and not jamming as much. I'd recommend a cheapo brush to learn basic cleaning, stripping etc. on and moving to a better one later on when you know what you want and how to handle the hardware without breaking a tiny part that'll cost more than the whole cheap brush. Yeah, pretty much this. Parts availability on the cheap brushes is also dire, its often cheaper to get a whole new brush if you bend the needle or mess something up. I dropped a cheap one on to a table top from about 2ft up and the front of the spray nozzle broke clean off leaving the other half threaded on the brush and intact. I'm fairly sure I could use my Patriot 105 as an improvised club and still get a decent spray pattern out of it.
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Moola posted:Personally I use dried herbs for foliage and dried tea granules from used teabags for soil (mix various kinds for a more natural looking variety of soil types) with a VERY small amount of static grass How many times have you accidentally tried to eat one of your brownie bases?
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They look amazingly delicious.
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I read this thread for painting ideas, but now I want brownies.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:19
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His earlier attempts were much brownie-er.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:43
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ijyt posted:His earlier attempts were much brownie-er. good times Moola posted:So I tried creating a homemade mud mixture instead of buying GW's pot'o mud ( Moola posted:So I tried to do some mud effects again Moola posted:Defeinitely gonna try this on my next base!
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Why not just go with the brownie bases? The Gungerbread Wauugh! Tomb World: Candyland. Astartes Delectamentum.
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Nothing was better than grandma's bases. As soon as we stepped into the kitchen, you'd see hundreds of them freshly baked, gently flocked and precisely ranked. Each of us got a movement tray's worth. Grandma's gone now, but her bases don't have to be. Moola's Easy Bake Bases™
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Nov 4, 2016 18:20
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All three of those make me hungry every time. I still want to see some little candy canes and gummi plants on those bases.
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Nov 4, 2016 18:20
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ijyt posted:All three of those make me hungry every time. I still want to see some little candy canes and gummi plants on those bases. definitely a thing I want to do at some point
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Nov 4, 2016 18:22
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Smh if your first bases, painted or flocked, dont look like baked goods
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ijyt posted:All three of those make me hungry every time. I still want to see some little candy canes and gummi plants on those bases. I want to see a tray of brownies with some edible rank and file dudes. Did I read somewhere that someone was 3D printing candy or was that a delicious dream?
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(Dammit, Moola, now I'm all hungry. Those bases look scrumptious!) So! Remember how we've discussed the notion of 3D printing taking over the miniatures market? Well, I went and bought myself a birthday present recently, in the form of a Hero Forge mini. Using their in-browser CAD toolset, I designed a half-orc that looked like this on the proof screen:  And after a surprisingly fast delivery (about a week and a half!), here's how it turned out:  This was printed up by Shapeways in their new "sturdy grey" high-detail, high-durability plastic material. You can see some production glitches. There are "gates" and little overshoots of the plastic filament in odd places on the mini, especially in hard-to-reach areas like under the cloak and the base of the robe. The front of the robe has a noticeable step mark across it, offsetting that portion of the robe by about 1/16" of an inch. And the staff is slightly bent. So it's not perfect. But these are minor issues on what is overall a nicely detailed piece, with a very smooth surface texture that shows close to zero print stepping (apart from the glitches, of course). The whole thing looks astoundingly close to my original design. I'm confident that, after a light scrub in dishsoap, some very tiny filing/greenstuffing of that one offset, and a dunk of the staff in hot water to straighten it out, this little guy will be ready to receive primer and paint. The only downside is, this single piece cost $30.00 to cast in this material. So production is not quite to the balancing point of material/labor that will Put Miniatures Companies Out Of Business With This One Weird Trick (Games Workshop Hates Him!), but at least making a mini that is definitively your own is doable now, for a not-unreasonable price point. Plus, many big miniature companies are actually using similar forms of CAD-to-master-to-mold processes these days; Hero Forge just brings the process down to the consumer level. (...Wow, I sound like I've been bitten by a were-marketing-wolf.) Thought you might find that interesting! And now I'm going to pass out in preparation for the Extra Life game-a-thon tomorrow. e.: Yes, that's a wakizashi on his belt. One of the issues with HF's design toolbox (and there are several, including clipping issues, weird-item-positioning problems, and look-mom-that-hair-goes-right-through-his-helmet syndrome) is that the number and types of items you can attach to the model is still limited. Even though you can have your model wield a wicked khopesh in either or both hands, they don't have a scimitar model that could be hung on his belt, so I had to make do. (He's a druid, y'see. Nobody makes half-orc druids that look at all reasonable.) e2.: Even if you don't plan to buy anything from Hero Forge, I still recommend playing around with their designer. The website lets you save screenshots of your designs, so it's great for making a character portrait to insert into a PDF character sheet for Your Favorite RPG. For example, the baseball-capped version of this guy I've had the urge to make for the past couple of days for some reason cubswin. e3.: Mushrooms. Those are mushrooms on his base. ...No reason.
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Dr. Gargunza posted:
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:That's slightly under double what GW charges for a similar plastic figure, which is pretty good. Obviously still too expensive, but could see prices going down from that, and/or GW using the same tech to print in store. The cheapest plastic I can find on their shop after a bit of looking is an Eldar Farseer at $20 (I'm excluding the snap-fit "learn to paint" figures), and most character models are $30. This isn't so much to argue against 3d printing models as it is to underscore just how expensive GW kits are. I'm not sure 3d printing one-offs will ever be the primary way to get miniatures, but for unique figures, it's definitely a workable option today if you're willing to deal with some rough edges.
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So i'm thinking of finally making the plunge into airbrushing now while I have some disposable income before I move. The post about airbrushing on the first page mentions the Sparmax TC-620X as a great but affordable compressor, but I can't seem to find one below $360. Anyone have a recommendation for a decent compressor in the $200-$250 price range here in the states?
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Dr. Gargunza posted:Heroforge I don't know if I should thank you for the awesome link, or blame you for making today unproductive. Even as limited as it is (I first tried to make a gnoll knight, but theres only wolf heads and human legs) it's still insanely fun to play with. The moment their ultra detail plastic drops to $20 I'm getting this printed:  Wish I could justify this post with some thread content, but right now I'm just attempting to make a mold of the Infinity Spec-Ops Shasvatii (which wouldn't be too interesting to see, just a mini & accessories halfway into some silicone).
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Cross-post, finished up a Carnifex today, big thanks to goon Thundercloud who sold me this one:  And with his big sister  :  Having a lot of fun doing these, it's pretty refreshing after doing a lot of SM and Tau stuff. I went a bit less crazy with the snow on the base this time compared to the Trygon, I'm curious which look you guys prefer though.
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Are there any airbrush paints that look a lot like Reaper's Surf Aqua? I really like the color, but it's kind of a pain to use with airbrushes.
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Still a WIP and I've got no place where I can take a decent picture, but I feel real good about changing my color scheme on these Tau to something brighter.
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mango sentinel posted:Still a WIP and I've got no place where I can take a decent picture, but I feel real good about changing my color scheme on these Tau to something brighter. If you want to take a decent picture just get a desk lamp and a piece of white paper and you can do pretty okay. You might want two lamps, but you don't need a professional lightbox or anything just to take pictures of models.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Cross-post, finished up a Carnifex today, big thanks to goon Thundercloud who sold me this one: Never stop posting cool painted stuff
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SRM posted:If you want to take a decent picture just get a desk lamp and a piece of white paper and you can do pretty okay. You might want two lamps, but you don't need a professional lightbox or anything just to take pictures of models.
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There was a D&D and Blizzard mashup way back that resulted in a bunch of horrible models including a raven, a demon lady, and ... something else. But what this box was really worth for was this guy who I just finished zentinial priming. *one second, forgot to resize the image. It's the butcher. He already looks badass. EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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SRM posted:If you want to take a decent picture just get a desk lamp and a piece of white paper and you can do pretty okay. You might want two lamps, but you don't need a professional lightbox or anything just to take pictures of models. 
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mango sentinel posted:How about this? Yeah, that's a lot nicer. I ran it through some levels in Photoshop just to take out the yellow and brighten it up a little; Picasa has that feature too but I've never used it, some goons use it plenty though.  As for the actual models, they look good! That teal is appealing, but I'd pick out the icons on their shoulders in another color. Something like the classic Tau white and black would work for those, or you could go for the contrast and use a little orange.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:Having a lot of fun doing these, it's pretty refreshing after doing a lot of SM and Tau stuff. I went a bit less crazy with the snow on the base this time compared to the Trygon, I'm curious which look you guys prefer though. I think they both look killer. It's a little hard to tell that you even used less of the snow on the carnifex. I think I like the sparseness a bit more.
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This is a test model to see if I could actually create a red metallic look I liked for my Word Bearers. Eventhough I see all the errors and flaws in the picture I'm pretty happy about how it turned out. Might try some more shading with nuln oil and some small touch-ups though.
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You've definitely landed on a great colour yeah! Only thing I'd do is a controlled shade in the crevices like you said and maybe some weathering. vvv: aw man that's beautiful. ijyt fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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I'm currently keeping myself busy while waiting for my dropfleet pledge. I got an extra starter box to tide me over. On the weekend i did two colour tests on leftover cruiser parts.  I settled on the dark one pretty quickly but what really completed it for me was the engine glow i tried out tonight.  On one hand i'm now super excited to paint some spaceships on the other i kinda want to wait for the pledge to arrive so i can airbrush everything in one go.
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First models I've painted in about 3 or 4 years. It sure is tough getting back into the swing of things. Feel like everything I do is sloppy and takes a million years to come close to a finished product.    I know I still have some clean up to do on them but what else would y'all recommend?
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Bistromatic posted:I'm currently keeping myself busy while waiting for my dropfleet pledge. I got an extra starter box to tide me over. Feel free to do a step by step tutorial when you do it. TIA.
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