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so would usb c cable work as thunderbolt 3 cable in general?
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mishaq posted:buy a refurb 2015 macbook pro w/ applecare lmao
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hobbesmaster posted:do they all come with USB-c to USB-c cables?
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Encrypted posted:so would usb c cable work as thunderbolt 3 cable in general? here is a usb-c to usb-c cable that only supports usb 2 here is a usb-c to usb-c cable that only supports up to usb 3.1 gen 1 here is a usb-c to usb-c cable that only supports up to usb 3.1 gen 2 here is a usb-c to usb-c cable that is only for power and doesn't transfer data at all here is a usb-c to usb-c cable that is actually thunderbolt 3 Linguica fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 6, 2016 20:40
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oh good USB-c is worse than scsi
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At the Verizon store, I was looking around when this energetic person tried to help. After some discussion I mentioned the Apple II. He looked genuinely confused and even asked his co-worker, "What is an Apple II? Nothing. I was astonished and went into their phone section and asked, "OK Google, what , is an apple II?" I left.
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Linguica posted:lmao no you forgot one usb-c to usb-c cable that is actually thunderbolt 3 20Gbps (effectively thunderbolt 2) Perplx fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 6, 2016 20:50
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hahaha guys this 19 year old minimum wage worker doesn't know about a computer that was obsolete 15 years before he was born what an imbecile
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ps the one (1) usb-c to usb-c cable that comes with your $4000 macbook pro only supports usb 2.0Perplx posted:you forgot the one usb-c to usb-c cable that is actually thunderbolt 3 20Gbps (effectively thunderbolt 2) Linguica fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 6, 2016 20:52
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omfg i thought apple was doing a good thing with usb-c (they wrote a large part of the spec, right?) by being like, ok, gently caress, here's one standard that solves all of the problems with garbage usb fragmentation and should be good to go for the next 10-20 years but it's even worse than i could have ever imagined. it is scsi all over again
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arguably, it's worse. back in the scsi days everyone who used computers and had to ever touch scsi knew it was a lovely compatibility nightmare. if you were wading into that mess you'd spend hours digging around to make sure everything you were trying to buy was compatible. in the last 25 years people have become accustom to things like usb basically being foolproof plug-and-play, if it fits in the port it'll work and you don't have to worry about anything else. now apple has royally hosed the whole usb "brand" because it's possible to buy a dozen different mutually incompatible, identical looking plugs and modern consumers have no idea that's even possible
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infernal machines posted:in the last 25 years people have become accustom to things like usb basically being foolproof plug-and-play, if it fits in the port it'll work and you don't have to worry about anything else. now apple has royally hosed the whole usb "brand" because it's possible to buy a dozen different mutually incompatible, identical looking plugs and modern consumers have no idea that's even possible is this really apple's fault, or the usb consortium i found it impossible to defend apple using their made up "mini displayport" connector to do double duty with tbolt i figured the usb type C thing was a path to redemption and all type Cs would have some halfway reasonable fallback but maybe not 
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Sagebrush posted:hahaha guys this 19 year old minimum wage worker doesn't know about a computer that was obsolete 15 years before he was born He was 20, close. I should mention that the pixel I was talking into didn't even acknowledge my voice. It was the Nexus phones around with a chorus. Strange. Zeluth fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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there's seriously usb 3.1 gen 1 and gen 2? they couldn't have named it usb 3.2? also lol at the clusterfuck that is thunderbolt 3 with usb c cables
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apple is bad
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Zeluth posted:He was 20, close. and then everyone stood up and clapped
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triple sulk posted:apple is bad Have you ever played stuntcopter?
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the USB-IF should be disbanded and all members tried for crimes against humanity
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Perplx posted:you forgot one usb-c to usb-c cable that is actually thunderbolt 3 20Gbps (effectively thunderbolt 2) not sure why it works that way mishaq posted:there's seriously usb 3.1 gen 1 and gen 2? the problem is these dumb fucks can't figure out how to subclass it like the hdmi people managed to ufarn fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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mishaq posted:there's seriously usb 3.1 gen 1 and gen 2? Then they came up with USB 3.1 and renamed USB 3.0 to USB 3.1 gen 1 and added a new USB 3.1 gen 2 simple ufarn posted:believe that goes for any thunderbolt 3 cable longer than 0.5m or some dumb poo poo I guess it's not surprising since the wavelength of a signal at 40 Ghz is less than a centimeter and you can only deal with so much latency Linguica fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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ufarn posted:not sure why it works that way dehumanize yourself and face to smith charts
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:is this really apple's fault, or the usb consortium well, it's the usb consortium's for letting it happen, but apple's for ghost writing the spec and going ahead with the implementation that allows this
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infernal machines posted:well, it's the usb consortium's for letting it happen, but apple's for ghost writing the spec and going ahead with the implementation that allows this USB consortium probably was scared that Apple would just go their own way again like they did with firewire if they didn't allow Apple to special snowflake their products up.
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butt dickus posted:every new phone that isn't an iphone uses usb-c. it's easier to plug a competing product into the new macs than something apple makes they use usb-c female instead of lightning but im sure they all come with usb-a male so its equally hard
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poty posted:they use usb-c female instead of lightning but im sure they all come with usb-a male so its equally hard
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butt dickus posted:mine all came with c chargers and a c to c cable i dont believe u
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are the days of connectors that crunch like they've got sand in them over?? rip
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two things about ios10' I use that bedtiome thing. its super inconsistent about reminding me to go to bed. also the alarm int he morning isnt smart enough to realise that if I am using my phone I dont need to be woken, and when the notification comes up touching it only makes it snooze and the only way to stop the alarm is to see the alarm from the lock screen or go into the alarm settings and turn it on then off again also I got a text from an unkwn number but the start of the text said "hi its martin here" and so the message came through as "maybe: martin" as the name of the contact rather than just the nmu,ber
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echinopsis posted:two things about ios10' to dismiss the alarm just force touch it and a "stop" option comes up as well as snooze
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thats super bullshit for a phone without force touch. do I just "hold down"? ill try it tomoz
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echinopsis posted:thats super bullshit for a phone without force touch. do I just "hold down"? I think usually it should be there when you hold it down if it is a required feature, which turning an alarm off SHOULD be, otherwise that'd be bad UX but hey who knows. force touch works p good because when your alarm goes off you get to angrily crush your phone to make it stop, which is how I accidentally discovered that feature. it just works (unless it doesn't)
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C.H.O.M.E posted:I think usually it should be there when you hold it down if it is a required feature, which turning an alarm off SHOULD be, otherwise that'd be bad UX but hey who knows. force touch works p good because when your alarm goes off you get to angrily crush your phone to make it stop, which is how I accidentally discovered that feature. it just works (unless it doesn't) ...Discoverability, folks!
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hey guys, remember when apple wasn't trash for assholes and the ui worked because it was simple and immediately intuitive?
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the alarm shows 'snooze' and 'stop' when it goes off
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yeah 'bedtime' told me to go to bed once and never has again
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Pissflaps posted:the alarm shows 'snooze' and 'stop' when it goes off aaaaaactually if the phone is locked, yes, the stop option is there on the bottom of the screen. if you wake up 5 min before it goes off and pick it up and start using the phone before it goes off, it still goes off and a little notification rectangle appears at the top of the screen that doesn't have stop unless you force touch it.
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infernal machines posted:hey guys, remember when apple wasn't trash for assholes and the ui worked because it was simple and immediately intuitive? 
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C.H.O.M.E posted:aaaaaactually my phone does not have the force-touchy so I can just pull down the alarm. it even has a little bar on the bottom of the alarm box to let you know about it.   yet again the SE proves to be the superior iPhone.
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what is the stray 2.0 even in the cursor blink bit? old macos was certainly not always pretty, but pretty hard to argue with the usability in an age where the closest competition were about to bring out microsoft bob 12 years later
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